Mag Sorc PvP Build?

Ohhgrizyyy

I'm currently running 5 Shackle, 4 Necro and 2 Engine Guardian. Is there anything better? I know you can run a master's inferno but I don't plan or want to try to stray away from using Clench. Any better setups where I can still keep my Engine Guardian?

Current stats are 43k Mag, 22k HP, 12k Stam
2926 Spell dmg fully buffed with infused enchant on resto
1486 recovery with Atro mundus
850 Stam recovery

ToRelax

You could swap the 4 Necro + 2 EG for 5 Amber + 1 Domi, for starters.

Ohhgrizyyy

ToRelax wrote: »

You could swap the 4 Necro + 2 EG for 5 Amber + 1 Domi, for starters.

I'd prefer to keep engine tbh

Ohhgrizyyy

No matter what I do I kinda wanna keep engine

grannas211

Is there anything better? Yes but you either don't want to use it or don't want to give up a trash set? So I guess no.

Tldr drop engine guardian absolutely and definitely use the master inferno

Ohhgrizyyy

grannas211 wrote: »

Is there anything better? Yes but you either don't want to use it or don't want to give up a trash set? So I guess no.

Tldr drop engine guardian absolutely and definitely use the master inferno

Master inferno is useless if I don't use Clench. I don't plan on using Clench. Just answer the question and don't be a smart ***

coop500

What does engine guardian do? I don't think I seen that set yet.

Beardimus

^ Resources. Was popular back in the day. Little dwelmer dude spawns and gives you one of the three resources

Smmokkee

coop500 wrote: »

What does engine guardian do? I don't think I seen that set yet.

Its a dwarven sphere that gives health magicka or stamina when it procs.

Ohhgrizyyy

^ I like it, Procs pretty often and it can be good to los

Ohhgrizyyy

When nobody gives you ideas besides the literal meta of Domi and Master Inferno..

ToRelax

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

When nobody gives you ideas besides the literal meta of Domi and Master Inferno..

You asked for something better than your current setup and you got it. Why help you when you don't actually want to use it?

Ohhgrizyyy

ToRelax wrote: »

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Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

When nobody gives you ideas besides the literal meta of Domi and Master Inferno..

You asked for something better than your current setup and you got it. Why help you when you don't actually want to use it?

I asked, "Any better setups where I can keep my Engine" Hypothetically I could drop Shackle for something else then run Tri-stat food to get the same Stam. I would just have less mag

ToRelax

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

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ToRelax wrote: »

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

When nobody gives you ideas besides the literal meta of Domi and Master Inferno..

You asked for something better than your current setup and you got it. Why help you when you don't actually want to use it?

I asked, "Any better setups where I can keep my Engine" Hypothetically I could drop Shackle for something else then run Tri-stat food to get the same Stam. I would just have less mag

Well, if you are sure you want to use Engine Guardian, I think you should try to describe as well as you can how you use it. Specifically, what you do on different procs, how you manage between the procs and how many cost reduction glyphs you are using. Additionally, your skill setup might help.
There are quite some gear options, although using EG and no master weapon limits them, and to find out what makes most sense we need to know how well you are managing resources with the procs.

Emma_Overload

OK, here's a simple, but very effective build:

5pc Spinner (necklace w/stamina regen, 2 rings w/spell damage , breeches, Inferno staff w/Infused trait on front bar)

5pc Seducer (robe, gloves, sash, shoes , Restoration staff w/Powered trait on back bar)

2pc Engine Guardian on head and shoulders

The great thing about this build is that it will work very well as is, but it will work even BETTER when you listen to what everyone is telling you and replace Engine Guardian with something else I would just use two mismatched monster set pieces that have max magicka as the 1pc set bonus.

EDIT: I forgot to mention you need Witchmothers drink and Mage mundus!

Ohhgrizyyy

ToRelax wrote: »

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Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

When nobody gives you ideas besides the literal meta of Domi and Master Inferno..

You asked for something better than your current setup and you got it. Why help you when you don't actually want to use it?

I asked, "Any better setups where I can keep my Engine" Hypothetically I could drop Shackle for something else then run Tri-stat food to get the same Stam. I would just have less mag

Well, if you are sure you want to use Engine Guardian, I think you should try to describe as well as you can how you use it. Specifically, what you do on different procs, how you manage between the procs and how many cost reduction glyphs you are using. Additionally, your skill setup might help.
There are quite some gear options, although using EG and no master weapon limits them, and to find out what makes most sense we need to know how well you are managing resources with the procs.

All spell dmg on jewelry, Atro mundus, Big infused, small divines

Front Bar: Endless, Curse, Frag, Crushing Shock, Streak, DB

Back Bar: Hardened, Harness, Healing Ward, Surge, Boundless/Mines, Resto Ult

Ohhgrizyyy

I try to play off what my EG is. Try to los it sometimes, If I get a Stam bonus I might throw a roll dodge out there. If it's mag I either go offensive or get a heavy attack in with resto and be back up to full mag

ToRelax

Well, this makes it difficult. You see, EG will work best with large stat pools, a lot of cost reduction and defensive skills (especially BoL) to stay close to it. You have a stam pool on the lower side, no cost reduction glyphs, no Impenetrable and Streak. So unless you make some serious changes there, we can't build for synergies with EG via secondary magicka returns and cost reduction. If you look at it that way, your current build is ok in that it tries to maximize max magicka, but utterly fails to preserve it. You don't even have Dark Exchange to make a bit better use of the excess stamina you can't take into your low stam pool.

If you want to keep going for such high damage, you could try out dualwield. It doesn't take as much sustain and allows you to get another 5 piece bonus. Lich or Seducer/Alteration for sustain, Spinner or Treasure Hunter if you don't use spell crit pots for damage, Trainee for more max stats or just Necro if you would slot a pet.

If you would change the glyphs to cost reduction, this would make any sustain set, including EG and any other you may slot additionally, significantly more powerful. If you do this, I would strongly advise you drop Shackle and Necro in favor of a front and back bar setup. It would also make Dark Exchange more powerful, so you should try using that if you do this.
Some useful sets that can be used on one bar only would be:
Bloodthorn (front, sustain, dropped)
Lich (either, sustain, dropped)
Spinner (front, damage, dropped)
Treasure Hunter (front, damage, dropped)
Mechanical Acuity (front, damage, crafted; I list this only because you have Curse on your front bar, as the proc is very short. Having no addons to track it won't help.)
Julianos (front, damage, crafted)
Alchemist (back, damage, crafted)
Torug's Pact (crafted, can be used on one or both bars, requires using infused for good results; can provide damage, sustain or a mixture of both)
Assassin's Guile (the poison equivalent to Torug's)
Wizard's Riposte (either, defensive, dropped)
Durok's Bane (either, offensive, dropped)

I've filtered out all the stuff that doesn't seem very enticing mathematically. Hope this helps.

Chrlynsch

1. Stack magicka
2.
3. Profit

King_Thelon

Gear selection is good, check the rest of the details here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsMibYkcPMc

Good luck friend!

Voxicity

Asks for a better setup

Gets valid answers

Refuses to run such setups and calls them a smartass

The ESO community, everyone

Ohhgrizyyy

Voxicity wrote: »

Asks for a better setup

Gets valid answers

Refuses to run such setups and calls them a smartass

The ESO community, everyone

Again, I asked for a better setup to run with EG, Not a completely different build. I know what meta is, He's telling me to run meta. Obviously I'm running EG which isn't meta so obviously I don't want to run a fully meta build.