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Blobs real world trading gold???

  • Rainraven
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    Rainraven wrote: »
    Reverb wrote: »
    bitels wrote: »
    LOL @ drama
    I like that some ppl already decided that Blobs is guilty, no matter what.
    I see that presumption of innocence not working on forum...

    Clearly. Reading this thread hasn't given me an opinion about whether I think blobs is rmt or not, but it has made me think very little of OP and the lynch mob. Sad really.

    It is. :(

    Look, if you think somebody's violating TOS, there are avenues to report that and have it looked into. This crap? This is just gross.

    LOL. Did you miss the part where people actually reported this to Zos? Nothing happened.

    Missed the part where threads were being closed because of this? Nothing happened.

    At the very least it SHOULD make you wonder.

    Oh, it makes me wonder all right, just not in the direction I'm being led.
  • Blobsky
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Rainraven wrote: »
    Reverb wrote: »
    bitels wrote: »
    LOL @ drama
    I like that some ppl already decided that Blobs is guilty, no matter what.
    I see that presumption of innocence not working on forum...

    Clearly. Reading this thread hasn't given me an opinion about whether I think blobs is rmt or not, but it has made me think very little of OP and the lynch mob. Sad really.

    It is. :(

    Look, if you think somebody's violating TOS, there are avenues to report that and have it looked into. This crap? This is just gross.

    LOL. Did you miss the part where people actually reported this to Zos? Nothing happened.

    Missed the part where threads were being closed because of this? Nothing happened.

    At the very least it SHOULD make you wonder.
    Actually, releasing my girlfriends chat without my permission also technically breaches the Law, but I'm letting that slide so far.
    You released it yourself, you put it on the internet, I would love for you to try and do something about that, anyone would just laugh at you.

    Both Twitch and Youtube have a strict term that no content from a player can be released unless that content creator explicitly accepts it (Copyright policies). That is written in TOS. Because of the nature of the content, it would also be illegal to mass-spread that information (Data protection and cyber bullying). As I have said, for now I am letting it slide as it is not major.
    Edited by Blobsky on January 11, 2018 1:02PM
    Yt Channell: Blobsky

    DC EU Nightblade
    Owner of 'The Travelling Merchant' - Craglorn trade guild since near release!
  • Caza99
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    Blob IDK why you're even trying to defend yourself anymore. Clearly nothing you can do is going to change their minds.
    PC NA - @Merœr , MagSorc Main
  • Blobsky
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Rainraven wrote: »
    Reverb wrote: »
    bitels wrote: »
    LOL @ drama
    I like that some ppl already decided that Blobs is guilty, no matter what.
    I see that presumption of innocence not working on forum...

    Clearly. Reading this thread hasn't given me an opinion about whether I think blobs is rmt or not, but it has made me think very little of OP and the lynch mob. Sad really.

    It is. :(

    Look, if you think somebody's violating TOS, there are avenues to report that and have it looked into. This crap? This is just gross.

    LOL. Did you miss the part where people actually reported this to Zos? Nothing happened.

    Missed the part where threads were being closed because of this? Nothing happened.

    At the very least it SHOULD make you wonder.
    Actually, releasing my girlfriends chat without my permission also technically breaches the Law, but I'm letting that slide so far.
    You released it yourself, you put it on the internet, I would love for you to try and do something about that, anyone would just laugh at you.

    Both Twitch and Youtube have a strict term that no content from a player can be released unless that content creator explicitly accepts it (Copyright policies). That is written in TOS. Because of the nature of the content, it would also be illegal to mass-spread that information (Data protection and cyber bullying). As I have said, for now I am letting it slide as it is not major.
    No you're letting this slide because you realised how dumb it sounded, the TOS you are referring to is about fan channels that can get money from the content -- see top plays of the week (game here) for reference.
    In this case a common twitch feature was used and created a clip, if this was against the TOS that feature would not exist.

    I have the rights to remove the clip right now in 1 click if I actually cared, because I legally 'own' that clip. I am just choosing not to.
    Yt Channell: Blobsky

    DC EU Nightblade
    Owner of 'The Travelling Merchant' - Craglorn trade guild since near release!
  • Azurya
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    Eruranion wrote: »
    Blobs on PC EU is known as one of the richest people in ESO from his many trading guilds among other things.
    https://clips.twitch.tv/SpineyMistyBaguetteSwiftRage

    You can see at the end of the video on his Skype there is a contact called Pie overlord [buying/selling gold]

    What do you think about this? Should people stop supporting his trading guilds as the profit generated is just harming the economy or do you think it's alright for him to RWT? Do you think zos should punish him or be more give him a free pass because he's a streamer?

    I know that have been 2 threads locked about this before but I think it's important we make our opinions on cheating clear to zos

    Inb4 thread lock! ;);)

    as you deliver proof that you yourself can identify a goldseller just be recognizing his name, you clearly states that you yourself are as well trading with this person!

    So pls be a man that stands to his own call for justice and pls delete your accounts!

    bb
    Fear not, for I am watchful. You have been chosen.
    Azura, the Daedric Prince of Moonshadow, Mother of the Rose, and Queen of the Night Sky


    Hail to Sithis, blood's drop on blade's edge.
    Before you, nothing. Behind you, the Void.
    Catalyst, agitator, many-fanged maw.
    Whisper your need to the Scales.
    — Inscription found on an Argonian blade
  • Vrenk
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    Azurya wrote: »
    Eruranion wrote: »
    Blobs on PC EU is known as one of the richest people in ESO from his many trading guilds among other things.
    https://clips.twitch.tv/SpineyMistyBaguetteSwiftRage

    You can see at the end of the video on his Skype there is a contact called Pie overlord [buying/selling gold]

    What do you think about this? Should people stop supporting his trading guilds as the profit generated is just harming the economy or do you think it's alright for him to RWT? Do you think zos should punish him or be more give him a free pass because he's a streamer?

    I know that have been 2 threads locked about this before but I think it's important we make our opinions on cheating clear to zos

    Inb4 thread lock! ;);)

    as you deliver proof that you yourself can identify a goldseller just be recognizing his name, you clearly states that you yourself are as well trading with this person!

    So pls be a man that stands to his own call for justice and pls delete your accounts!

    bb

    It's not my video.

    Bb

    - Make goblins a playable race
  • Azurya
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    Eruranion wrote: »
    Azurya wrote: »
    Eruranion wrote: »
    Blobs on PC EU is known as one of the richest people in ESO from his many trading guilds among other things.
    https://clips.twitch.tv/SpineyMistyBaguetteSwiftRage

    You can see at the end of the video on his Skype there is a contact called Pie overlord [buying/selling gold]

    What do you think about this? Should people stop supporting his trading guilds as the profit generated is just harming the economy or do you think it's alright for him to RWT? Do you think zos should punish him or be more give him a free pass because he's a streamer?

    I know that have been 2 threads locked about this before but I think it's important we make our opinions on cheating clear to zos

    Inb4 thread lock! ;);)

    as you deliver proof that you yourself can identify a goldseller just be recognizing his name, you clearly states that you yourself are as well trading with this person!

    So pls be a man that stands to his own call for justice and pls delete your accounts!

    bb

    It's not my video.

    Bb

    maybe, but YOU are the ONE pointing here in the FORUM at someone!
    YOU AND YOU ONLY STATES HERE THAT IT IS A GOLDSELLER!
    AND YOU WANT THAT BLOB GET HIS ACC RIPPED
    AND IT IS YOU WHO WANTS THIS, WHILE YOU KNOW THAT GOLDSELLER TOO, CAUZE NOBODY ELSE KNOWS THAT GOLDSELLER

    BE A MAN and NOT A WHINY and DELETE YOUR ACCOUNTS
    Fear not, for I am watchful. You have been chosen.
    Azura, the Daedric Prince of Moonshadow, Mother of the Rose, and Queen of the Night Sky


    Hail to Sithis, blood's drop on blade's edge.
    Before you, nothing. Behind you, the Void.
    Catalyst, agitator, many-fanged maw.
    Whisper your need to the Scales.
    — Inscription found on an Argonian blade
  • Caza99
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    Only takes a basic google search of the gold seller to see its Runescape related. And if you know much about blob you'd know how much he was invested in that game. This has nothing to do with ESO. Until you can prove Blob has done anything wrong in ESO, maybe just leave him alone.
    PC NA - @Merœr , MagSorc Main
  • Samadhi
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    Rainraven wrote: »
    Reverb wrote: »
    bitels wrote: »
    LOL @ drama
    I like that some ppl already decided that Blobs is guilty, no matter what.
    I see that presumption of innocence not working on forum...

    Clearly. Reading this thread hasn't given me an opinion about whether I think blobs is rmt or not, but it has made me think very little of OP and the lynch mob. Sad really.

    It is. :(

    Look, if you think somebody's violating TOS, there are avenues to report that and have it looked into. This crap? This is just gross.

    LOL. Did you miss the part where people actually reported this to Zos? Nothing happened.

    Missed the part where threads were being closed because of this? Nothing happened.

    At the very least it SHOULD make you wonder.

    It made me wonder if this thread has been reported yet,
    as it is 7:30 in the morning here, and appears to have been up for a little over 2 hours
    so made a point of using the report feature -- now only wonder how long until the thread is closed once the mods get notification about it
    "If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
    Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
  • Azurya
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    Eruranion wrote: »
    Azurya wrote: »
    Eruranion wrote: »
    Azurya wrote: »
    Eruranion wrote: »
    Blobs on PC EU is known as one of the richest people in ESO from his many trading guilds among other things.
    https://clips.twitch.tv/SpineyMistyBaguetteSwiftRage

    You can see at the end of the video on his Skype there is a contact called Pie overlord [buying/selling gold]

    What do you think about this? Should people stop supporting his trading guilds as the profit generated is just harming the economy or do you think it's alright for him to RWT? Do you think zos should punish him or be more give him a free pass because he's a streamer?

    I know that have been 2 threads locked about this before but I think it's important we make our opinions on cheating clear to zos

    Inb4 thread lock! ;);)

    as you deliver proof that you yourself can identify a goldseller just be recognizing his name, you clearly states that you yourself are as well trading with this person!

    So pls be a man that stands to his own call for justice and pls delete your accounts!

    bb

    It's not my video.

    Bb

    maybe, but YOU are the ONE pointing here in the FORUM at someone!
    YOU AND YOU ONLY STATES HERE THAT IT IS A GOLDSELLER!
    AND YOU WANT THAT BLOB GET HIS ACC RIPPED
    AND IT IS YOU WHO WANTS THIS, WHILE YOU KNOW THAT GOLDSELLER TOO, CAUZE NOBODY ELSE KNOWS THAT GOLDSELLER

    BE A MAN and NOT A WHINY and DELETE YOUR ACCOUNTS

    Jesus talk like a normal person #blobsbrigade

    you accuse ppl for something that is not obvious

    the only thing you can see in the vid is: PIE OVERLORD (Buying/Selling Gol... and nothing else!!!!

    the only person who can identify this without doubts as an true goldseller, can only be someone who knows this person too and makes use of his services
    and I am no blobsbrigade, I only want justice and no screamers starting a hysteria without any proof!
    Fear not, for I am watchful. You have been chosen.
    Azura, the Daedric Prince of Moonshadow, Mother of the Rose, and Queen of the Night Sky


    Hail to Sithis, blood's drop on blade's edge.
    Before you, nothing. Behind you, the Void.
    Catalyst, agitator, many-fanged maw.
    Whisper your need to the Scales.
    — Inscription found on an Argonian blade
  • Blobsky
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Rainraven wrote: »
    Reverb wrote: »
    bitels wrote: »
    LOL @ drama
    I like that some ppl already decided that Blobs is guilty, no matter what.
    I see that presumption of innocence not working on forum...

    Clearly. Reading this thread hasn't given me an opinion about whether I think blobs is rmt or not, but it has made me think very little of OP and the lynch mob. Sad really.

    It is. :(

    Look, if you think somebody's violating TOS, there are avenues to report that and have it looked into. This crap? This is just gross.

    LOL. Did you miss the part where people actually reported this to Zos? Nothing happened.

    Missed the part where threads were being closed because of this? Nothing happened.

    At the very least it SHOULD make you wonder.
    Actually, releasing my girlfriends chat without my permission also technically breaches the Law, but I'm letting that slide so far.
    You released it yourself, you put it on the internet, I would love for you to try and do something about that, anyone would just laugh at you.

    Both Twitch and Youtube have a strict term that no content from a player can be released unless that content creator explicitly accepts it (Copyright policies). That is written in TOS. Because of the nature of the content, it would also be illegal to mass-spread that information (Data protection and cyber bullying). As I have said, for now I am letting it slide as it is not major.
    No you're letting this slide because you realised how dumb it sounded, the TOS you are referring to is about fan channels that can get money from the content -- see top plays of the week (game here) for reference.
    In this case a common twitch feature was used and created a clip, if this was against the TOS that feature would not exist.

    I have the rights to remove the clip right now in 1 click if I actually cared, because I legally 'own' that clip. I am just choosing not to.
    Decided to actually read the TOS
    Screen_Shot_2018-01-11_at_14.28.02.png

    This protects Twitch, not the end-user of 'created content' - Part of the Twitch Partnership TOS states that 'As the partner to Twitch and end creator of content you have the rights to any content created and can take action through Twitch partnership to remove content breaching copyright laws' (In far more words though). I can't give you a screenshot, as Partner TOS is confidential.
    Yt Channell: Blobsky

    DC EU Nightblade
    Owner of 'The Travelling Merchant' - Craglorn trade guild since near release!
  • Cenom
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    Lol... How miserably you guys look! The Witch Hunt is on :)
  • Azurya
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    Cenom wrote: »
    Lol... How miserably you guys look! The Witch Hunt is on :)

    yep
    but I am also happy to see that there are still enough ppl to question such hyped actions

    just post something and make only a little bit more out of the facts by just giving them a meaning that isn´t so to see in the original clip..... in fact there is nothing in the clip from Blobsky that prooves anything, and certainly not the things he get accused for here by some hunks!
    Fear not, for I am watchful. You have been chosen.
    Azura, the Daedric Prince of Moonshadow, Mother of the Rose, and Queen of the Night Sky


    Hail to Sithis, blood's drop on blade's edge.
    Before you, nothing. Behind you, the Void.
    Catalyst, agitator, many-fanged maw.
    Whisper your need to the Scales.
    — Inscription found on an Argonian blade
  • Caza99
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    Well this has quickly gone from "Blob is a gold seller!" to "Blob Vs Nifty: Please Read the T's & C's"
    Edited by Caza99 on January 11, 2018 1:54PM
    PC NA - @Merœr , MagSorc Main
  • Blobsky
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Rainraven wrote: »
    Reverb wrote: »
    bitels wrote: »
    LOL @ drama
    I like that some ppl already decided that Blobs is guilty, no matter what.
    I see that presumption of innocence not working on forum...

    Clearly. Reading this thread hasn't given me an opinion about whether I think blobs is rmt or not, but it has made me think very little of OP and the lynch mob. Sad really.

    It is. :(

    Look, if you think somebody's violating TOS, there are avenues to report that and have it looked into. This crap? This is just gross.

    LOL. Did you miss the part where people actually reported this to Zos? Nothing happened.

    Missed the part where threads were being closed because of this? Nothing happened.

    At the very least it SHOULD make you wonder.
    Actually, releasing my girlfriends chat without my permission also technically breaches the Law, but I'm letting that slide so far.
    You released it yourself, you put it on the internet, I would love for you to try and do something about that, anyone would just laugh at you.

    Both Twitch and Youtube have a strict term that no content from a player can be released unless that content creator explicitly accepts it (Copyright policies). That is written in TOS. Because of the nature of the content, it would also be illegal to mass-spread that information (Data protection and cyber bullying). As I have said, for now I am letting it slide as it is not major.
    No you're letting this slide because you realised how dumb it sounded, the TOS you are referring to is about fan channels that can get money from the content -- see top plays of the week (game here) for reference.
    In this case a common twitch feature was used and created a clip, if this was against the TOS that feature would not exist.

    I have the rights to remove the clip right now in 1 click if I actually cared, because I legally 'own' that clip. I am just choosing not to.
    Decided to actually read the TOS
    Screen_Shot_2018-01-11_at_14.28.02.png

    This protects Twitch, not the end-user of 'created content' - Part of the Twitch Partnership TOS states that 'As the partner to Twitch and end creator of content you have the rights to any content created and can take action through Twitch partnership to remove content breaching copyright laws' (In far more words though). I can't give you a screenshot, as Partner TOS is confidential.
    You wont post the screenshot because what you are quoting is totally irrelevant to something like this. They would NOT have two TOS's that says to the public hey you're free to do what you please with making clips, then a secret society one that says hey you shh the other TOS is fake.

    What you are probably talking about with copyright laws is literally those people who make fake accounts on Youtube as a top streamer and upload daily their top moments and monetize the videos.

    You do realise that those 'streamer top moments' are copyright breaches right? If somebody makes that, the Twitch content creator has the legal right to get the video taken down - a recent example was Zulu vs Keep on Runescape during an Elysian Sigil drop. Zulu got the clip and stated that Keep did not have permission to use it, and Keeps video was taken down by Youtube and a strike placed on his channel.

    The creator of the 'montage' is liable if the original content creator did not give them permission. No action is taken unless that original creator demands it, because that way it is clear that permission was never given. The same is actually true for Musics too, but YouTube does that automatically since generally the creators of the originals are extremely large businesses.
    Edited by Blobsky on January 11, 2018 1:49PM
    Yt Channell: Blobsky

    DC EU Nightblade
    Owner of 'The Travelling Merchant' - Craglorn trade guild since near release!
  • HighKinlady
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    don’t entertain it blobs . ZOS will look into it I’m sure and they will confirm everything you are saying (or everything they are saying , we don’t know because we weren’t there for that particular conversation). I’m actually shocked ZOS hasn’t shut this down yet .
    XB NA
    High Kinlady

    PC : Kinlady

  • Azurya
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    Eruranion wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Eruranion wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Eruranion wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Please don't ban Blobs, TTM is my fav trading guild, how else will I make monies once every 6 months to pay for my skooma addiction ?

    Just saying

    Well zos will decide if he's guilty or not. Even if he is he will probably get away with it considering they let shey have his account bank. But you shouldn't contribute to real world trading, there are far more friendlier more honourable trading guilds you can join in craglorn/mournhold.

    He isn't above the same level of punishment any non GM/streamer should receive

    Except he isn't 'contributing to rwt', because I have never sold gold.

    Well we will see. I doubt you'd be so stupid as to use your main account though. No one of us know if zos had the technology to check all accounts from the same IP

    I've already given them a list of all of my accounts, none have sold gold or ever will.

    That is good of you and I don't believe you're concretely guilty but I am highly suspicious. If you did, you'd obviously give the list of all your accounts and exclude the gold selling ones. That isn't a concrete way of checking but that's on zos

    only a thief can think like a thief
    quote from grandpa, after 45 years detective in police department
    Fear not, for I am watchful. You have been chosen.
    Azura, the Daedric Prince of Moonshadow, Mother of the Rose, and Queen of the Night Sky


    Hail to Sithis, blood's drop on blade's edge.
    Before you, nothing. Behind you, the Void.
    Catalyst, agitator, many-fanged maw.
    Whisper your need to the Scales.
    — Inscription found on an Argonian blade
  • Azurya
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    Blob if youre getting banned anyway, can you gift me some gold cause im poor...

    and braindead too
    Fear not, for I am watchful. You have been chosen.
    Azura, the Daedric Prince of Moonshadow, Mother of the Rose, and Queen of the Night Sky


    Hail to Sithis, blood's drop on blade's edge.
    Before you, nothing. Behind you, the Void.
    Catalyst, agitator, many-fanged maw.
    Whisper your need to the Scales.
    — Inscription found on an Argonian blade
  • ArchMikem
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    He isn't above the same level of punishment any non GM/streamer should receive

    ZoS will decide if he's guilty and he will be punished.

    There's nothing to decide. Buying and Selling in-game currency is a top sin of TOS violations.

    THROW THE BOOK.
    Edited by ArchMikem on January 11, 2018 1:58PM
    CP1,200+ Master Explorer - AvA Praetorian - Console Peasant
  • JamuThatsWho
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    Azurya wrote: »
    Eruranion wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Eruranion wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Eruranion wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Please don't ban Blobs, TTM is my fav trading guild, how else will I make monies once every 6 months to pay for my skooma addiction ?

    Just saying

    Well zos will decide if he's guilty or not. Even if he is he will probably get away with it considering they let shey have his account bank. But you shouldn't contribute to real world trading, there are far more friendlier more honourable trading guilds you can join in craglorn/mournhold.

    He isn't above the same level of punishment any non GM/streamer should receive

    Except he isn't 'contributing to rwt', because I have never sold gold.

    Well we will see. I doubt you'd be so stupid as to use your main account though. No one of us know if zos had the technology to check all accounts from the same IP

    I've already given them a list of all of my accounts, none have sold gold or ever will.

    That is good of you and I don't believe you're concretely guilty but I am highly suspicious. If you did, you'd obviously give the list of all your accounts and exclude the gold selling ones. That isn't a concrete way of checking but that's on zos

    only a thief can think like a thief
    quote from grandpa, after 45 years detective in police department

    Then your gramps has no imagination.
    Edited by JamuThatsWho on January 11, 2018 1:59PM
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  • Shad0wfire99
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    Nice to see that witch-hunts aren't just an American thing these days.
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