Blobs real world trading gold???

jlboozer

Leave Blob alone, he entertains me occasionally...

Aisle9

Eruranion wrote: »

Aisle9 wrote: »

Please don't ban Blobs, TTM is my fav trading guild, how else will I make monies once every 6 months to pay for my skooma addiction ?


Also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmx1jpqv3RA

Just saying

Well zos will decide if he's guilty or not. Even if he is he will probably get away with it considering they let shey have his account bank. But you shouldn't contribute to real world trading, there are far more friendlier more honourable trading guilds you can join in craglorn/mournhold.

He isn't above the same level of punishment any non GM/streamer should receive

ZoS will decide if he's guilty and he will be punished.

If he's not going to be punished, he's probably guilty anyways, because ZoS is not reliable.

Awesome reasoning there mate, great logic.

OutLaw_Nynx

How has he not been banned yet lol

Vrenk

Blobsky wrote: »

Eruranion wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Eruranion wrote: »

Aisle9 wrote: »

Please don't ban Blobs, TTM is my fav trading guild, how else will I make monies once every 6 months to pay for my skooma addiction ?

Just saying

Well zos will decide if he's guilty or not. Even if he is he will probably get away with it considering they let shey have his account bank. But you shouldn't contribute to real world trading, there are far more friendlier more honourable trading guilds you can join in craglorn/mournhold.

He isn't above the same level of punishment any non GM/streamer should receive

Except he isn't 'contributing to rwt', because I have never sold gold.

Well we will see. I doubt you'd be so stupid as to use your main account though. No one of us know if zos had the technology to check all accounts from the same IP

I've already given them a list of all of my accounts, none have sold gold or ever will.

That is good of you and I don't believe you're concretely guilty but I am highly suspicious. If you did, you'd obviously give the list of all your accounts and exclude the gold selling ones. That isn't a concrete way of checking but that's on zos

Blobsky

OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »

How has he not been banned yet lol

'He' isn't banned, because 'he' hasn't broken any game rules.

Marabornwingrion

Everyone knows that ZOS protects famous streamers. Even if they violate TOS.

ZOS will never punish them for their actions, as long as streamers do their job - promoting ESO.
Too much money is involved in that kind of cooperation, so they protect each other.

And yes, I know what I'm saying. There are people from raiding environment on PC EU who never got punished for exploiting PvE stuff just because they're famous (they make builds, promote game on streams, etc).

Blobsky

Eruranion wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Eruranion wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Eruranion wrote: »

Aisle9 wrote: »

Please don't ban Blobs, TTM is my fav trading guild, how else will I make monies once every 6 months to pay for my skooma addiction ?

Just saying

Well zos will decide if he's guilty or not. Even if he is he will probably get away with it considering they let shey have his account bank. But you shouldn't contribute to real world trading, there are far more friendlier more honourable trading guilds you can join in craglorn/mournhold.

He isn't above the same level of punishment any non GM/streamer should receive

Except he isn't 'contributing to rwt', because I have never sold gold.

Well we will see. I doubt you'd be so stupid as to use your main account though. No one of us know if zos had the technology to check all accounts from the same IP

I've already given them a list of all of my accounts, none have sold gold or ever will.

That is good of you and I don't believe you're concretely guilty but I am highly suspicious. If you did, you'd obviously give the list of all your accounts and exclude the gold selling ones. That isn't a concrete way of checking but that's on zos

Actually there is, from any PC Game development side, you can see the transactions, movement, actions, IP etc etc etc of an account. They have a full list provided by me either way, but can log all of my transactions too. Sorry to dissapoint.

OutLaw_Nynx

Then why do you have that in your chat log, @Blobsky

Kalante

Astrid_V wrote: »

Everyone knows that ZOS protects famous streamers. Even if they violate TOS.

ZOS will never punish them for their actions, as long as streamers do their job - promoting ESO.
Too much money is involved in that kind of cooperation, so they protect each other.

And yes, I know what I'm saying. There are people from raiding environment on PC EU who never got punished for exploiting PvE stuff just because they're famous (they make builds, promote game on streams, etc).

It doesn't make sense banning them from a business perspective. It's like free advertisement. When sypher used to stream eso he would get 600 to 700 viewers and bump eso on top a little bit in twitch making eso look good and attracting people. lol, i am not even a businessman but even i know that if i have a dying game i would not be banning my free advertisements. But if my game was dying then i guess i ain't no businessman in the first place after all.

bitels

LOL @ drama
I like that some ppl already decided that Blobs is guilty, no matter what.
I see that presumption of innocence not working on forum...

Vrenk

Kalante wrote: »

Yea ban the last streamer that can pull 300-400 viewers to twitch eso's dying page to some degree of relevancy.

I'd rather have there be no streamers and the game would be be considered respectable by non players than a game full of cheating streamers putting people off and telling the current players it's ok to cheat

Reverb

bitels wrote: »

LOL @ drama
I like that some ppl already decided that Blobs is guilty, no matter what.
I see that presumption of innocence not working on forum...

Clearly. Reading this thread hasn't given me an opinion about whether I think blobs is rmt or not, but it has made me think very little of OP and the lynch mob. Sad really.

DanielWinterborn

What's funny is that the last time this threads popped up they quickly got closed by devs but now seeing how the guy in question is around defending himself nothing happens... Like some sort of premeditation thingy... Stranger Things... I like that show.

Got nothing against selling or buying gold but the cloak and dagger stuff really annoys me.

Blobsky

OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »

Then why do you have that in your chat log, @Blobsky

I've already replied in this thread, feel free to read page one.

Nifty2g

Blobsky wrote: »

Eruranion wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Eruranion wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Eruranion wrote: »

Aisle9 wrote: »

Please don't ban Blobs, TTM is my fav trading guild, how else will I make monies once every 6 months to pay for my skooma addiction ?

Just saying

Well zos will decide if he's guilty or not. Even if he is he will probably get away with it considering they let shey have his account bank. But you shouldn't contribute to real world trading, there are far more friendlier more honourable trading guilds you can join in craglorn/mournhold.

He isn't above the same level of punishment any non GM/streamer should receive

Except he isn't 'contributing to rwt', because I have never sold gold.

Well we will see. I doubt you'd be so stupid as to use your main account though. No one of us know if zos had the technology to check all accounts from the same IP

I've already given them a list of all of my accounts, none have sold gold or ever will.

That is good of you and I don't believe you're concretely guilty but I am highly suspicious. If you did, you'd obviously give the list of all your accounts and exclude the gold selling ones. That isn't a concrete way of checking but that's on zos

Actually there is, from any PC Game development side, you can see the transactions, movement, actions, IP etc etc etc of an account. They have a full list provided by me either way, but can log all of my transactions too. Sorry to dissapoint.

Not hard for you to get a second account at some point and chuck excess gold into a guild bank

DDuke

Eruranion wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Eruranion wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Ban.

Shey, his ESO boyfriend got perm banned for the exact same thing it's obvious they are dealing in this ***. And yet about a year later they let him have his account back. If they let a whiny little grand overlord (pre off tick buff) get his account back because they think he's an 'integral' player on PC EU I wonder how they'll respond to one of the few streamers left

Ever wonder why there's only a few streamers left? Food for thought.

Hint: has little to do with the game itself.


Chill down with the pitchforks (goes for all the "streamer X is cheating/macroing!" accusations too), report to ZOS if you think someone cheats/sells gold & let ZOS handle investigating - naming & shaming people in public doesn't help anyone.

Let's say you and blobs both exploited skin farming in CWC, would you be happy if you got a perm ban and him just a warning? I'd rather see there be no streamers IF they do exploit/rwt/cheat than lots of them as it just adds the cancer. I personally don't think any of the big streamers cheat from what I see. This one the other hand there is possible proof that needs investigating properly

So you're upset that ZOS allegedly treats streamers with a double standard, but let me ask you a question: aren't you doing the same right now?

Or will you tell me that you'd make a naming-and-shaming forum post about any random player in the game? More food for thought.


Just as you are convinced/suspicious that Blobs is selling, there are plenty of people who are certain streamer X is a cheater/macro user/whatever. In the end, we won't be the judges of that, ZOS will - so why not keep it between ZOS & you if you have a problem with a certain player?

As I said, naming-and-shaming people doesn't help anyone - if anything it just discourages other people from picking up streaming this game.


Anyway, I'm done here - I've said all I had to say.

OutLaw_Nynx

It’s just questionable where he gets all his gold to be the “richest” user on EU. If he uses Chinese farmers, guess what, that’s against T&C. If he buys/sells gold that is as well. I don’t know if any rich pvp player but maybe things are different over there.

Blobsky

OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »

It’s just questionable where he gets all his gold to be the “richest” user on EU. If he uses Chinese farmers, guess what, that’s against T&C. If he buys/sells gold that is as well. I don’t know if any rich pvp player but maybe things are different over there.

You are continuing to go on, despite being well informed that I don't sell gold, and ignoring the post I have made about it.

Rainraven

Reverb wrote: »

bitels wrote: »

LOL @ drama
I like that some ppl already decided that Blobs is guilty, no matter what.
I see that presumption of innocence not working on forum...

Clearly. Reading this thread hasn't given me an opinion about whether I think blobs is rmt or not, but it has made me think very little of OP and the lynch mob. Sad really.

It is.

Look, if you think somebody's violating TOS, there are avenues to report that and have it looked into. This crap? This is just gross.

Blobsky

Nifty2g wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Eruranion wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Eruranion wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Eruranion wrote: »

Aisle9 wrote: »

Please don't ban Blobs, TTM is my fav trading guild, how else will I make monies once every 6 months to pay for my skooma addiction ?

Just saying

Well zos will decide if he's guilty or not. Even if he is he will probably get away with it considering they let shey have his account bank. But you shouldn't contribute to real world trading, there are far more friendlier more honourable trading guilds you can join in craglorn/mournhold.

He isn't above the same level of punishment any non GM/streamer should receive

Except he isn't 'contributing to rwt', because I have never sold gold.

Well we will see. I doubt you'd be so stupid as to use your main account though. No one of us know if zos had the technology to check all accounts from the same IP

I've already given them a list of all of my accounts, none have sold gold or ever will.

That is good of you and I don't believe you're concretely guilty but I am highly suspicious. If you did, you'd obviously give the list of all your accounts and exclude the gold selling ones. That isn't a concrete way of checking but that's on zos

Actually there is, from any PC Game development side, you can see the transactions, movement, actions, IP etc etc etc of an account. They have a full list provided by me either way, but can log all of my transactions too. Sorry to dissapoint.

Not hard for you to get a second account at some point and chuck excess gold into a guild bank

Read my previous comment, is already answers exactly what you just said. 'all accounts, all transactions' - that is not just trade, its guild bank, item movement, guild store, mail etc etc etc. None of those have been bias in any of my accounts history, because I have never sold gold.

DanielWinterborn

Rainraven wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

bitels wrote: »

LOL @ drama
I like that some ppl already decided that Blobs is guilty, no matter what.
I see that presumption of innocence not working on forum...

Clearly. Reading this thread hasn't given me an opinion about whether I think blobs is rmt or not, but it has made me think very little of OP and the lynch mob. Sad really.

It is.

Look, if you think somebody's violating TOS, there are avenues to report that and have it looked into. This crap? This is just gross.

LOL. Did you miss the part where people actually reported this to Zos? Nothing happened.

Missed the part where threads were being closed because of this? Nothing happened.

At the very least it SHOULD make you wonder.

Caza99

God this is ridiculous. No matter what the man says or does you guys are just gonna keep screaming he's a gold seller. Why do so many people in the community have it out for Blobs? Lots of immature jabs at him here

Nemesis7884

Blob if youre getting banned anyway, can you gift me some gold cause im poor...

Elsonso

Astrid_V wrote: »

Everyone knows that ZOS protects famous streamers. Even if they violate TOS.

ZOS will never punish them for their actions, as long as streamers do their job - promoting ESO.
Too much money is involved in that kind of cooperation, so they protect each other.

Oddly enough, I am not sure that those streamers feel the same way about ZOS. Streamers tend to be fickle and nomadic to start with, and if one is cheating, they are hardly going to be faithful to a studio if they get caught.

Blobsky wrote: »

Either way, I have never sold eso gold, and have asked that my account is investigated and data released PUBLICLY to silence the same usual group of drama causers.

I have never sold eso gold, nor would I, and again reiterate that I am trying to get any investigation results made public.

I commend you for trying to get out in front of this, but it is really hard to get ZOS to comment publicly on anything that they don't already want to talk about. They don't want to talk about cheating and the results of investigations into cheating. Good luck.

Rainraven

DanielWinterborn wrote: »

Rainraven wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

bitels wrote: »

LOL @ drama
I like that some ppl already decided that Blobs is guilty, no matter what.
I see that presumption of innocence not working on forum...

Clearly. Reading this thread hasn't given me an opinion about whether I think blobs is rmt or not, but it has made me think very little of OP and the lynch mob. Sad really.

It is.

Look, if you think somebody's violating TOS, there are avenues to report that and have it looked into. This crap? This is just gross.

LOL. Did you miss the part where people actually reported this to Zos? Nothing happened.

Missed the part where threads were being closed because of this? Nothing happened.

At the very least it SHOULD make you wonder.

Oh, it makes me wonder all right, just not in the direction I'm being led.

Caza99

Blob IDK why you're even trying to defend yourself anymore. Clearly nothing you can do is going to change their minds.

Arthg

I'd never understood ZOS's no naming and shaming policy before that thread.

I get it now.

Suspicious minds should at least look up the stuff in the skype contact list, and endeavour to find a direct link with ESO.
Good luck!

(And if you do find one, report it to ZOS privately, not here!!!)

Aisle9

Caza99

Only takes a basic google search of the gold seller to see its Runescape related. And if you know much about blob you'd know how much he was invested in that game. This has nothing to do with ESO. Until you can prove Blob has done anything wrong in ESO, maybe just leave him alone.

Samadhi

DanielWinterborn wrote: »

Rainraven wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

bitels wrote: »

LOL @ drama
I like that some ppl already decided that Blobs is guilty, no matter what.
I see that presumption of innocence not working on forum...

Clearly. Reading this thread hasn't given me an opinion about whether I think blobs is rmt or not, but it has made me think very little of OP and the lynch mob. Sad really.

It is.

Look, if you think somebody's violating TOS, there are avenues to report that and have it looked into. This crap? This is just gross.

LOL. Did you miss the part where people actually reported this to Zos? Nothing happened.

Missed the part where threads were being closed because of this? Nothing happened.

At the very least it SHOULD make you wonder.

It made me wonder if this thread has been reported yet,
as it is 7:30 in the morning here, and appears to have been up for a little over 2 hours
so made a point of using the report feature -- now only wonder how long until the thread is closed once the mods get notification about it