Windowed(Fullscreen) FPS loss

badmojo

On the PTS I am getting half the fps using the same settings I use on live.

My FPS goes back up to normal if I switch from 'Windowed(Fullscreen)' to 'Fullscreen' mode.

I have a 4k monitor and run windows in 3840x2160, but I set the game to 1920x1080.

Live https://i.imgur.com/lWGm76C.jpg getting 74fps
PTS https://i.imgur.com/B5YF5pN.jpg getting 34fps

I get the same low fps if I try to fullscreen @ 3840x2160 on live. So I feel like Windowed(Fullscreen) is trying to run at 4k on pts where it runs at the chosen resolution on live.

Windows 10 64bit
i7 6700k
GTX960 4gb driver ver 388.13

badmojo

A couple patches later and I'm still getting under 30 FPS in Windowed(Fullscreen) mode.

Was graphics ramped up in this update? Do you need more information?

badmojo

Looks like this FPS loss will be going to live. It's very disappointing that I will lose the option of playing in windowed fullscreen, regular fullscreen is a pain to use with two monitors.

My only hope is that it's some quirk with the PTS version and I won't suffer this loss in the Live version, but I highly doubt that.

A sane person would expect updates to improve FPS, not ruin it.

Septimus_Magna

How do you even run 4k on a GTX960?
CPU is good but it seems like pushing it on this GPU.

aeowulf

anyone else reporting it in game?

badmojo

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

How do you even run 4k on a GTX960?
CPU is good but it seems like pushing it on this GPU.

If I go with just regular fullscreen, running in 4k drops me down to 30fps, running in 1080 is 70fps.

On the current live version, running in Fullscreen(windowed) gives me 70fps, so i assume it is running in 1080.
On the PTS, running in Fullscreen(windowed) gives me 30fps, so I assume it is running in 4k.

I am not sure why this changed, but the ideal solution would be to allow us to set the resolution of the windowed fullscreen mode.

I don't want to run in 4k, because of my video card, but I also don't want to lock my screen in regular fullscreen mode, because I have two monitors and like being able to click on things on the second monitor without having to alt-tab.

RinaldoGandolphi

Running in Windowed Mode puts you at the mercy of (WDM) Windows Display Manager which is solely Microsoft and part of Windows and its implementation of vsync among other things. The only way to bypass it is to play in fullscreen mode where your GPU driver can have full control instead of piping everything through WDM

In windowed mode your GPI is forced to keep rendering your desktop via WDM on top of the game, whereas in full screen mode it doesn’t have to do this.

You will always take a performance hit running games in windowed mode for this reason

danno8

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Running in Windowed Mode puts you at the mercy of (WDM) Windows Display Manager which is solely Microsoft and part of Windows and its implementation of vsync among other things. The only way to bypass it is to play in fullscreen mode where your GPU driver can have full control instead of piping everything through WDM

In windowed mode your GPI is forced to keep rendering your desktop via WDM on top of the game, whereas in full screen mode it doesn’t have to do this.

You will always take a performance hit running games in windowed mode for this reason

Yes, its just that these days running windowed fullscreen results in <1 fps difference in most games compared to fullscreen. And certainly a 30 fps difference is not due to the intense desktop action going on.

But it does happen sometimes. I've had the same intermittent problem with LotRO.