Poison themed build for PVE ? ?

Nemesis7884

So i like themed builds because they immerse me more in my character and the game - my dragon knight is a poison / dot using argonian - which sets would you use for such a build within a pve environment that work well together and are the most efficient once in your opinion?
I know these sets
- morag tong (not sure if it is that efficient outside of a group that uses poison)
- swamp raider (a weird one but works well with flames of oblivion)
- syvarra's scales (the first 3 bonuses are meh but the last one is nice)
- widowmaker (not a dot but seems interesting, no experience)
- viper (only single target sucks a bit)
- infector/defiler (timing and targeting seems wonky)
- eternal hunt (no experience, seems interesting - what is the cooldown?)
Or anything else?

Aisle9

Morag Tong

Poisonous serpent, maybe ? You should be heavy attacking pretty regularly

Taleof2Cities

Vicecanon has both a poison and a dot ... have run it before with decent results on my lowbie Stamblades.

ParaNostram

Morag Tong Swamp Raider should be a solid set up I'd think.

Aisle9

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Vicecanon has both a poison and a dot ... have run it before with decent results on my lowbie Stamblades.

vicecannon procs from stealth, not really ideal for PvE, imo

VaranisArano

Syvarra's is excellent for dealing with trash mobs, but only relatively minor additional DPS against bosses.

Tryxus

Morag Tong + Sheer Venom

Masel

If you wanna go for full poison, go poisonous serpent, spawn of mephala and morag tong on front bar weapons only. Then go infused poison glyph plus a charged offhand with berserker on dw bar and another infused poison enchant on the off bar.
That is what yielded the best results for me if you wanna go for a build like this.
Use noxious breath, venomous claw, poison injection and even arrow spray if needed, but that will most likely be a dps loss.

Problem with these builds is sadly that you still have a lot of physical damage on a stamina dk, which doesn't get boosted by morag, but with morag tong you buff all other stamina dudes at least.


Yields good dps (36k on 6m dummy) and fits to your theme.

Sevn

I have a poison ivy themed NB that uses eternal hunt, defilers and selenes. I know selenes isn't poison theme but having a huge green bear spawn up just fits my overall theme. Extremely fun times playing this character in overworld pve land. As far as cooldown on EH i think it's just a matter of only being able to place one poison trap down at a time.

I also have the other sets you listed, but don't find their visual effects as appealing. For me, when playing a themed based character it is more important to me how the visual effects play out rather than how great my damage output is and let us be honest, you don't need large damage numbers for most of the game, save vet trials, pvp and a handful of vet dungeons.

Mister_DMC

Calling @HatchetHaro you're definitely needed here!

HatchetHaro

Mister_DMC wrote: »

Calling @HatchetHaro you're definitely needed here!

No I'm not.

OP already has the main parts covered. You don't need me for this.

Nemesis7884

Masel92 wrote: »

If you wanna go for full poison, go poisonous serpent, spawn of mephala and morag tong on front bar weapons only. Then go infused poison glyph plus a charged offhand with berserker on dw bar and another infused poison enchant on the off bar.
That is what yielded the best results for me if you wanna go for a build like this.
Use noxious breath, venomous claw, poison injection and even arrow spray if needed, but that will most likely be a dps loss.

Problem with these builds is sadly that you still have a lot of physical damage on a stamina dk, which doesn't get boosted by morag, but with morag tong you buff all other stamina dudes at least.


Yields good dps (36k on 6m dummy) and fits to your theme.

stupid question but does infused work on alchemical poison?

sheer venom + viper could also be interesting on bosses? i probably use spawn of mephala on the tanking build...

i am just wondering if the 10% from morag tong are worth it if you're the only poison damager vs other sets...

No one seems to use widowmaker but it doesn't read half bad?

And i'm wondering if Swamp Raider wouldn't be better than Morag Tong if you're alone since the proc is very easy on a DK

hmmmm

Masel

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Masel92 wrote: »

If you wanna go for full poison, go poisonous serpent, spawn of mephala and morag tong on front bar weapons only. Then go infused poison glyph plus a charged offhand with berserker on dw bar and another infused poison enchant on the off bar.
That is what yielded the best results for me if you wanna go for a build like this.
Use noxious breath, venomous claw, poison injection and even arrow spray if needed, but that will most likely be a dps loss.

Problem with these builds is sadly that you still have a lot of physical damage on a stamina dk, which doesn't get boosted by morag, but with morag tong you buff all other stamina dudes at least.


Yields good dps (36k on 6m dummy) and fits to your theme.

stupid question but does infused work on alchemical poison?

sheer venom + viper could also be interesting on bosses? i probably use spawn of mephala on the tanking build...

i am just wondering if the 10% from morag tong are worth it if you're the only poison damager vs other sets...

No one seems to use widowmaker but it doesn't read half bad?

And i'm wondering if Swamp Raider wouldn't be better than Morag Tong if you're alone since the proc is very easy on a DK

hmmmm

You can also use the double damage health poison on your bow bar, it will likely be more damage than another infused bow. Swamp raider is a bad set, it only applies to your skills, not the enchant, monster set and poisonous serpent for example. Morag tong amplifies all poison damage (including poisons, monster set and other procs that don't scale with your stats), which is why it is the better choice here.

Spawn of mephala is the only monster set that does poison damage, and with Morag tong it deals quite a bit of dps.

Widowmaker is a very bad pve set, and since poisons have a global cooldown on both bars it became bad in pvp ad well. It does very low dps, yes it is aoe, but don't underestimate poisonous serpent, with dual wield heavy attacks and morag tong it does over 2k single target dps, which no other poison proc set will achieve.

Masel

Here's what i got earlier today with 5 Morag Tong, 5 Poisonous Serpent and 2 Mephala:









Solid DPS, given that my character still lacks Undaunted and a few pther passives and precise is a subpar offhand trait here (sharpened would be better).

Also, the ophidian weapons have a very cool poisonous animation atatched to them when unsheathed.