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ZOS, Please Rethink Your Decision to Penalize Nightblade Sneak Speed
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✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Colecovision wrote: »I think a Khajiit NB in particular should have no stealth penalty. Or all Khajiit. It's a cat, that's what they do.
This guys going places .
Argonians should be camouflaged by environment too.Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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aeowulf✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Colecovision wrote: »I think a Khajiit NB in particular should have no stealth penalty. Or all Khajiit. It's a cat, that's what they do.
This guys going places .
Argonians should be camouflaged by environment too.
Yep, I agree. Replace potion passive with 'semi-invis when in water...' I'm sure that will make all Argonians very happy!
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✭✭Id like an overhaul on the stealth system.
Id like fog of war that you can go inside and nobody can see you from the outside.. letting you fight people inside without being zerg'd on.
Pvp needs work but what op wants is to strong for stamblade. All gankblades would just slot troll king.PS4 NA DC0 -
Micah_Bayer✭✭✭✭✭Magblade: Has enough magicka to stay cloaked indefinitely... has speed buffs even without vampire in stealth.. and light armor defintely more tanky. I have one. THey're awesome. THey're fun. Bwahahaha
My Stamblade: Is vaporized for being almost as fast as my magblade in stealth.
Either way whatev. If that's the way devs want it? I'll play by the rules. But I'll say this... my 101 skillpoint magblade outperforms my 170 skillpoint stamblade straight out the gate in Cyrodiil. My first time out I was expecting to get my butt handed to me with a side of taters... but nope. My baby magblade wipes the floor with tenured and seasoned stamblades allllll the time. It's kinda not fair. Just an observation.
Stamblade are the best pvp aspect currently. You can deal with it.1 -
CarualSoul ShrivenHow I see This post:
OH stamblade have nothing to play stealth, its not like its having the invisibility OP, or the most broken ultimate that Scream "use this for gank", NO, But nightblades need a buff to speed, i mean its not like it is the most OP class already.
The point of vampirism and sets like this is to gain power in exchange of survivability, not ask for a buff in a class that have already invisibility inmuno to DoTs, and one of the cheapest ulti-broken in this game.
nightblades are a class with a focus on stealth, yes, that doesnt mean that needs a buff on stealth, that means you need to use the stealth with skill to get the positive results.
At this moments i can think 3 nerf to nightblades, it doesnt need a buff.
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✭✭GrumpyDuckling wrote: »You designed Nightblade with specific focuses on stealth/sneaking, but you penalize the class' sneak speed (same as every other class) unless the character becomes a vampire (for Dark Stalker passive) or uses up a 5 piece set bonus (Night's Silence or Shadow Dancer's Raiment).
It seems like an odd decision to penalize sneaking on the class that you designed for stealth! Might I suggest adding the "Ignore the Movement Speed penalty while in Crouch" coding into the current Nightblade passive Dark Veil? That, or a similar decision, seems logical.Because I know people will bring it up, yes, Concealed Weapon offers a separate movement bonus while stealthed or invisible, which is great for magicka Nightblades. It's not as useful for Stamina Nightblades, who have to give up a key skill in Surprise Attack to access Concealed Weapon.
Edit: Updated on 5/28/18 to tag class reps that I could find.
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They're trying to make roles viable across all classes. They also nerfed Templar heals. And they also made chains available to everyone, not just DK, through a modification to the Fighter's Guild skills.0 -
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✭✭✭✭GrumpyDuckling wrote: »You designed Nightblade with specific focuses on stealth/sneaking, but you penalize the class' sneak speed (same as every other class) unless the character becomes a vampire (for Dark Stalker passive) or uses up a 5 piece set bonus (Night's Silence or Shadow Dancer's Raiment).
It seems like an odd decision to penalize sneaking on the class that you designed for stealth! Might I suggest adding the "Ignore the Movement Speed penalty while in Crouch" coding into the current Nightblade passive Dark Veil? That, or a similar decision, seems logical.Because I know people will bring it up, yes, Concealed Weapon offers a separate movement bonus while stealthed or invisible, which is great for magicka Nightblades. It's not as useful for Stamina Nightblades, who have to give up a key skill in Surprise Attack to access Concealed Weapon.
Edit: Updated on 5/28/18 to tag class reps that I could find.
@Alcast
@Checkmath
@FeaR Turbo
@Hexys
@Joy_Division
@KenaPKK
@Liofa
@Masel92
@Quantum_V
@stileanima
@Tasear
They're trying to make roles viable across all classes. They also nerfed Templar heals. And they also made chains available to everyone, not just DK, through a modification to the Fighter's Guild skills.
Roles such as Healing, Tanking, and Damage are being made viable on each class. We're talking about stealth, which isn't really a role, is it? I guess someone could make the case for stealth roles in PVP, but in PVE stealth is useless in group content where roles are in play.
The Nightblade has skill lines designed for sneaking, but gets their sneak speed penalized -- just doesn't make sense to me.2