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Warden or DK for vTrials?

The_4O4
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Which class is better suited to be a main Tank in a vTrial? I've always played as a DK tank, but I'm relatively new to the end game pve content scene, and I'm wondering if I should switch to a Warden
Edited by The_4O4 on December 17, 2017 3:25AM

Warden or DK for vTrials? 51 votes

Dragonkinght
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vailjohn_ESOPinesylolo_01b16_ESOTryxusMalthorneHatchetHarobottleofsyrupWoelerstalkerheroDymenceVulsahdaalDubhliampaulsimonpsHaquorGrabmooreKnowledge17BishopVaohKelO_LYKOS 45 votes
Warden
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makrethtwnhnyJade1986theher0notRouDeRTasear 6 votes
  • Dymence
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    Warden has nothing to offer for a main tank position.

    It can be a decent off-tank, however.
  • Nephimana
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    DKs are just much more reliable in self sustaining, but I would like to see other classes be more popular as tanks in trials and even in general.
  • SoLooney
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    dk

    wardens make decent off tanks
  • makreth
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    Warden
    yolo
  • HighKinlady
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    In my opinion , from what I’ve played as a warden and watched on YouTube / twitch , Warden is a good class for a little bit of everything . However , a Warden cannot replace a DK for a main tank.

    Edit : as a main tank .
    Edited by HighKinlady on December 17, 2017 9:47AM
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    High Kinlady

    PC : Kinlady

  • Liofa
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    Both can be extremely good . I played DK tank for over 2 years and playing a Warden now . I find it to be more enjoyable and more support for group .
  • paulsimonps
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    They are very very close, but I still think DKs win for Main Tanking, but Wardens do win as Off-Tanks.
  • Woeler
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    Burst sustain gives DK the win. Though not by a lot.
  • Jade1986
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    They both have their strengths and weaknesses. However I prefer warden ice tank. The frost staff does need considerable work tho, with no maim option , you are pretty much shoe horned into using a weakening enchant on your staff, and the obligatory crusher enchant on the other. That and we have no group buff for major brutality and sorcery. But we do have a group resist buff , and a group damage reduction thru our ultimate. So we are more defensive, while dks are more offensive.
  • Tasear
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    Jade1986 wrote: »
    They both have their strengths and weaknesses. However I prefer warden ice tank. The frost staff does need considerable work tho, with no maim option , you are pretty much shoe horned into using a weakening enchant on your staff, and the obligatory crusher enchant on the other. That and we have no group buff for major brutality and sorcery. But we do have a group resist buff , and a group damage reduction thru our ultimate. So we are more defensive, while dks are more offensive.

    This^

    It's more for defensive playstyle or group.
  • Ragnarock41
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    Why not both?
  • Vaoh
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    Main Tank DKs have an edge. No doubt.

    Warden are #1 as offtanks though imo
  • Jade1986
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Jade1986 wrote: »
    They both have their strengths and weaknesses. However I prefer warden ice tank. The frost staff does need considerable work tho, with no maim option , you are pretty much shoe horned into using a weakening enchant on your staff, and the obligatory crusher enchant on the other. That and we have no group buff for major brutality and sorcery. But we do have a group resist buff , and a group damage reduction thru our ultimate. So we are more defensive, while dks are more offensive.

    This^

    It's more for defensive playstyle or group.

    The only thing I would change is the aoe for the ultimate, it should be 28 meters that ppl get 30% damage reduction, at least in pve.
  • Tryxus
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    Jade1986 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Jade1986 wrote: »
    They both have their strengths and weaknesses. However I prefer warden ice tank. The frost staff does need considerable work tho, with no maim option , you are pretty much shoe horned into using a weakening enchant on your staff, and the obligatory crusher enchant on the other. That and we have no group buff for major brutality and sorcery. But we do have a group resist buff , and a group damage reduction thru our ultimate. So we are more defensive, while dks are more offensive.

    This^

    It's more for defensive playstyle or group.

    The only thing I would change is the aoe for the ultimate, it should be 28 meters that ppl get 30% damage reduction, at least in pve.

    A 28m AoE Blizzard? o.0 Oh my goodness!
    "We're all born under the same sky and on the same earth. Therefore, we all deserve the same amount of respect."
    Tryxus of the Undying Song - Warden - PC/EU
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    I don't really see any advantages of a warden. For both, templar and nb you can find situations where they are slightly better than a dk, but I can't think of any situation where a warden would be the top choice.
  • paulsimonps
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    Jade1986 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Jade1986 wrote: »
    They both have their strengths and weaknesses. However I prefer warden ice tank. The frost staff does need considerable work tho, with no maim option , you are pretty much shoe horned into using a weakening enchant on your staff, and the obligatory crusher enchant on the other. That and we have no group buff for major brutality and sorcery. But we do have a group resist buff , and a group damage reduction thru our ultimate. So we are more defensive, while dks are more offensive.

    This^

    It's more for defensive playstyle or group.

    The only thing I would change is the aoe for the ultimate, it should be 28 meters that ppl get 30% damage reduction, at least in pve.

    28meters? That would be WAY to large, I mean right now it and Nova are pretty much the best Mitigation options for PvE, if you need it. But with 28ms in most cases Sleet Storm would be significantly better with its ability to move, sure Nova works for everyone as long as the boss stays inside it but move out of it and you lose it, its much easier to keep everyone inside of a 28m radius in some fights where bosses move. I mean..... 28meters is huge in this game for an AoE. As well, not a fan of changing how things work in PvP and PvE.

    Also, in a not rude way but in a serious way, cause I love tanking and want to see what others think. What would you say the strengths and weaknesses you talked about are? Especially curious about the Ice Staff, cause I personally see very few pros outside of vAS+1/+2 off tanking right now.
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