Auction house. Yay or Nay

Cpt_Teemo

Yes

Godzilla58 wrote: »

There is a Auction House Addon.

TTC is like 1/100000000th of an Auction house tbh.

kargen27

No

Junkriid wrote: »

I guess 90% of the people who voted "no" are people in a good trading guild that are happy and willing to grind mats or other things every day/week/month to meet the requirements needed to just have the right to sell in their guild...
What I know so far is that many players, and all of my friends, decided to quit eso because they had no chance to sell anything without having a guild. I find it stupid that if I play, for example, a month, and in that month I drop something valuable, I MUST be in a guild to sell that thing easily, just to be kicked a couple of weeks later because I'm not playing anymore at that time.. By now, the market is in the hands of few guilds, few players.. All the others can spam WTS in chat. Sorry for my english but I think you know what I mean. Oh, and just to answer to people saying that having an auction house would kill the market because prices would just drop very quick: price of things like motifs, are dropping down veeeery quick anyway, take Morag Tong motif, it's just an example, the drop rate is ridiculous, maybe 2/3 motifs in a month, doing all the dailies every day.. The price of this motif should be at least 70/80k each for the stupid rarity it has, but you can find players selling it for 15/20k or even less, so what are you talking about? I don't think an auction house would be so horrible but we will never see one in eso.

Several people in a social guild I am in are members of a trading guild that always has a spot in Rawl'kha. The guilds only requirement is that you remain active in the guild.

wolfxspice

Yes

i would love a system where i could post 2 or 3 items, without having to deal with "due's" or ask my friend to post it, or the worst, facebook, but it its not going to happen.

Glurin

No

wolfxspice wrote: »

i would love a system where i could post 2 or 3 items, without having to deal with "due's" or ask my friend to post it, or the worst, facebook, but it its not going to happen.

Wow, seriously? You guys are using Facebook as an excuse to hate the guild traders now?

If you have to go through Facebook to sell stuff in ESO, you're doing it wrong.

lelink88

No

We already have something similar: https://us.tamrieltradecentre.com/pc/Trade

wolfxspice

Yes

Glurin wrote: »

wolfxspice wrote: »

i would love a system where i could post 2 or 3 items, without having to deal with "due's" or ask my friend to post it, or the worst, facebook, but it its not going to happen.

Wow, seriously? You guys are using Facebook as an excuse to hate the guild traders now?

If you have to go through Facebook to sell stuff in ESO, you're doing it wrong.

on xbox, yes alot of people use facebook, almost every trader in all of eso is owned by one of the larger trading guild associations, if your not in one of the guilds (5k minimum dues for the vast majority of them) then your best bet is a trader in the middle of nowhere, even then, if theirs no dues, your likely to only get a trader every few weeks.

KeiruNicrom

Other...

Yay with limitations. Like each zone has its own auction house or a tight limit on how many items you can put up at a time

Tandor

Yes

Godzilla58 wrote: »

There is a Auction House Addon.

Actually there isn't, there are only addons that helps with setting (some might say fixing) prices. Even if there was, it would only be accessible by a third of the playerbase and then only those prepared to run addons that have a reputation for impacting performance (which is why a lot of traders turn their trading addons off when entering Cyrodiil), and something as central to the core functions of a MMORPG as the trading system ought to be fully workable for all players within the base game.

Surgee

Yes

Multiple guilds and guild traders is what annoyed me most in eso.

No global auctionhouse + strong guilds have a monopoly on the best traders. No chance to outbid them. I think global auctionhouse would give everyone a chance to sell their stuff. Now selling is limited for the members of biggest guilds who are usually full at that point. The only people who defend this probably are in one of these guilds.

Multiple guilds - ad a result no one knows anyone in guilds. No one cares. There is no attachment at all. People only join to be able to use the trader. If guild trader is gone, people leave guild.

SHADOW2KK

wolfxspice wrote: »

i would love a system where i could post 2 or 3 items, without having to deal with "due's" or ask my friend to post it, or the worst, facebook, but it its not going to happen.

Lol wut? L2Trade.

Mitrenga

No

Already discussed 1231824 times in the forum. A simple search would have given you the answers.

Cpt_Teemo

Yes

Mitrenga wrote: »

Already discussed 1231824 times in the forum. A simple search would have given you the answers.

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Still possible to implement an AH system but will most likely will never happen

wenchmore420b14_ESO

No

Surgee wrote: »

Multiple guilds and guild traders is what annoyed me most in eso.

No global auctionhouse + strong guilds have a monopoly on the best traders. No chance to outbid them. I think global auctionhouse would give everyone a chance to sell their stuff. Now selling is limited for the members of biggest guilds who are usually full at that point. The only people who defend this probably are in one of these guilds.

Multiple guilds - ad a result no one knows anyone in guilds. No one cares. There is no attachment at all[/b]. People only join to be able to use the trader. If guild trader is gone, people leave guild.

This is SO wrong in so many ways...
3 of my 5 guilds have a trader.
2 of the 3 have been here, (PC/NA), since April 2014 launch
1 of 3 is my Social guild whom keeps a trader in Orsinium for guildies
0 of 3 require a fee or requirements.

I have made dozens of new friends, some whom I keep in contact outside of game. All 5 of my guilds have members who are like family. Most of my guildies I have known for over 2 1/2 years.
To say no one knows anyone else or that no one cares in guilds must mean you have never had a good guild.
NOT ALL GUILDS ARE THE SAME! G.M.'s ARE NOT BILLIONAIRE MAFIA TYPES WANTING TO RIP YOU OFF NOR DO THEY TAKE YOUR GOLD!
Just my 2 Drakes!! Huzzah!

WhiteCoatSyndrome

No

My previous experience with MMOs is meager so I have little to compare it to, but I'm content with the current setup. I would prefer improvements in the form of implementing the Awesome Guild Store and MM functionality as base game features so the people on console can make use of them, I don't see a need to revamp the entire system just because other MMOs do it differently. On the contrary, put that effort towards more new content instead! Don't fix what isn't broken.

Vizier

Yes

In the past I've said "No" to this question. I believe in what ZoS was trying to accomplish with the guild trader system...BUT...

...They have FAILED in it's implementation. The concept of the guild trader system was to compartmentalize the market and make it difficult to impossible for guilds to monopolize and control the market. It worked for a time, years in fact, but now that is not the case. It is clear there is a cabal of trader guilds that control the main hubs, set prices and manipulate the bidding system to ensure they keep their kiosk locations.

If I, as a player, have to deal with a manipulated market then I'd rather just have access to a global system for my own convenience.

Cpt_Teemo

Yes

Vizier wrote: »

In the past I've said "No" to this question. I believe in what ZoS was trying to accomplish with the guild trader system...BUT...

...They have FAILED in it's implementation. The concept of the guild trader system was to compartmentalize the market and make it difficult to impossible for guilds to monopolize and control the market. It worked for a time, years in fact, but now that is not the case. It is clear there is a cabal of trader guilds that control the main hubs, set prices and manipulate the bidding system to ensure they keep their kiosk locations.

If I, as a player, have to deal with a manipulated market then I'd rather just have access to a global system for my own convenience.

^ same, worked in every MMO so far that has had one

Herelacfreahelm

Yes

Guild houses are ok but players who are trying to sell things that they craft or extra loot items not needed are limited only by selling within the allowed 5 guilds each player can join. I for one wish and would like to sell my items to any many others as possible and just can't do that in this game.

Bhaal5

Yes

If there was an auction house, then people couldnt openly rip people off... Cant have that in eso.

notimetocare

No

ereboz wrote: »

I would love a global auction house. I know some people say it would ruin the market because a percentage of players would fluctuate the market. But it's not much different than what people do now visiting guild stores and buying low selling high. So would you like to see a global auction house?

Far different. Far easier to dominate. Far easier for bots to ruin the market

Cpt_Teemo

Yes

notimetocare wrote: »

ereboz wrote: »

I would love a global auction house. I know some people say it would ruin the market because a percentage of players would fluctuate the market. But it's not much different than what people do now visiting guild stores and buying low selling high. So would you like to see a global auction house?

Far different. Far easier to dominate. Far easier for bots to ruin the market

Actually the current system now is the easiest setup I have ever seen to corner the entire in game market, all someone needs to do is make an alliance of rich guilds and buy up every stall in the game so that no one else can sell anything for that week or multiple weeks. Also all the prime spots are mostly taken by guilds that have more than 2 traders as well.

This trade system is dominated by bots but ZoS seems be doing nothing about it, the material market is insane for the sales some people have, in some guilds people make over 10 million just in materials alone every week, I doubt they're sitting at the computer manually gathering those materials.

Dawnblade

Yes

They won't add one - both for reasons of being obstinate about 'being different' and because doing so would be a technical challenge (they can't even put a functional search on the current highly limited stores).

As far as the nay sayers - an AH that is open and unrestricted (e.g. no slot limit) is far less open to manipulation than what we have today, with the only potential caveat being on those few and far between ultra rare items.

As for traders, they are limited but functional.

My biggest dislike on the sell side is being limited to 30 slots per guild, and thus needing find and join multiple guilds to list more than 30 items.

My biggest dislike on the buy side is the distributed nature of stores (spending a bunch of times watching loading screen and my horse run is not engaging) combined with the lack of a search function (no ability to search by text / keyword - reallY?).

So even if they never add an AH type global marketplace, they could really improve my view of the market in ESO by upping the listing limit, adding a search function, and for extra brownie points, add a global search NPC.

Vapirko

Other...

I just want to be able to search all guild stores from a single location or from one location per alliance zone. Don’t necessarily want an aucation format.

DHale

No

No auction house... ever I bought a gold ring of sun for 40 k. That would never happen in an auction house. I bought a spinner sword for 850 that is 850 gold not 850 k. Auction houses drive prices up.

Bryanonymous

No

Trade guild leaders have worked very hard to maintain their status. A change like this would destroy everything they worked for.

Cpt_Teemo

Yes

DHale wrote: »

No auction house... ever I bought a gold ring of sun for 40 k. That would never happen in an auction house. I bought a spinner sword for 850 that is 850 gold not 850 k. Auction houses drive prices up.

Auction Houses also tend to not make people list mistakes like those as well

joaaocaampos

No

Guilds are useless in most current MMOs. At least in ESO there is a purpose. Please stop!

Cpt_Teemo

Yes

joaaocaampos wrote: »

Guilds are useless in most current MMOs. At least in ESO there is a purpose. Please stop!

There's entire guilds in WoW that are doing better than every single guild put together on this game, it's not just about the market.

Voxicity

No

I love the guild trader system. It's way more fun than sitting at a board all day

Bryanonymous

No

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

joaaocaampos wrote: »

Guilds are useless in most current MMOs. At least in ESO there is a purpose. Please stop!

There's entire guilds in WoW that are doing better than every single guild put together on this game, it's not just about the market.

Define ‘better’... more cultist followers?

Glurin

No

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

Actually the current system now is the easiest setup I have ever seen to corner the entire in game market, all someone needs to do is make an alliance of rich guilds and buy up every stall in the game so that no one else can sell anything for that week or multiple weeks. Also all the prime spots are mostly taken by guilds that have more than 2 traders as well.

Right. It's far harder to take over a single AH where they have to....um....well....actually it just removes the whole part about "organize a gigantic consortium of hundreds of different guilds and outbid everyone else in the game for every single guild trader in Tamriel".

But at least they couldn't easily just buy out all their competition because with an AH they'd all be in one..... Hm. That, kinda doesn't work either.

Oh, but then we'd be just like all the other MMOs out there who all have the exact same problems as each other.... Dang it!

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

This trade system is dominated by bots but ZoS seems be doing nothing about it, the material market is insane for the sales some people have, in some guilds people make over 10 million just in materials alone every week, I doubt they're sitting at the computer manually gathering those materials.

And an AH would stop bots.........how, exactly?