Free events are NOT free

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duendology
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Anyone who thinks that so called free events are free should watch this short video. Time is the currency here. Someone who does not understand it is a real child of this world of consumerism...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mho_usZDgls

I hope many of you know this guy José Mujica.
I also recommend watching the entire film:

https://youtu.be/4GX6a2WEA1Q

PC/NA
- Redguard StamBlade dps ["bowtard" crafty girl who likes spinning with daggers too.]
- Breton SorcMag dps [She's got an identity crisis, but I believe in her.]
- Dunmer Templar dps/healer [she's a healer, then again she likes inferno staff too...]
And..
- High Elf SorcMag dps [It's quite possible his daddy was a Nord.]

I am an old-fashioned Goth
  • Kel
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    Anytime we play the game, or any game, we spend time.
    We never stop spending time, no matter what we do.
    The question should be are you enjoying the time you're spending.
    In the matter of ESO, you have the choice to participate in the event or not.
    Edited by Kel on December 5, 2017 5:16PM
  • zaria
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    True, and its an decent chance the rewards get in the crown store afterward as an consolation price.
    We don't know that. On the other hand running dungeons is an benefit in it self for your character.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Samadhi
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    "If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
    Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
  • Hippie4927
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    Your message is too late. I spent 43 years of my life earning money and now I sit on my [snip] and the money comes to me. I have plenty of time to waste. :p

    [Edited to remove profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on December 5, 2017 5:11PM
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  • ak_pvp
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    I do see the reasoning behind the irritation, runs taking a lot of time for quite possible nothing of use, bugs wasting more of said time.

    But ultimately, the event itself is has no monetary cost, you don't have to do them if you don't want, generally you are spending your time on the game anyway, and no matter how some may view it, RNG is probably the fairest mechanic for all. I may be biased since I received my all costumes and a pet. (last costume whilst writing this) But no one is entitled to anything.
    MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
    Best houseknight EU.
  • krachall
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    If you’re looking at a video game in terms of currency earned vs time spent, you are not playing a game. You’re working.

    That’s why economists use the term “utility” instead of “income.” Utility is the value to you you get from your time. If “fun” isn’t part of your utility, stop playing.
  • duendology
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    Hippie4927 wrote: »
    Your message is too late. I spent 43 years of my life earning money and now I sit on my [snip] and the money comes to me. I have plenty of time to waste. :p

    @Hippie4927

    Good for you.
    Are you also forever young and immortal? If not..I am not impressed.

    [Edited for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on December 5, 2017 5:11PM
    PC/NA
    - Redguard StamBlade dps ["bowtard" crafty girl who likes spinning with daggers too.]
    - Breton SorcMag dps [She's got an identity crisis, but I believe in her.]
    - Dunmer Templar dps/healer [she's a healer, then again she likes inferno staff too...]
    And..
    - High Elf SorcMag dps [It's quite possible his daddy was a Nord.]

    I am an old-fashioned Goth
  • Huyen
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    Seeing our goverment wants to spend 1.4 billion on people that do absolutely nothing (outside our country mind you), I can only agree that a "free" event is paid for anyhow. We pay for the air we breath somehow too....Sad but true.
    Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, nightblade dps - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Lightpaw, templar healer - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, necromancer dps - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, dragonknight (no defined role yet)

    "Failure is only the opportunity to begin again. Only this time, more wisely" - Uncle Iroh
  • Hippie4927
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    duendology wrote: »

    @Hippie4927

    Good for you.
    Are you also forever young and immortal? If not..I am not impressed.

    [Edited for quote]

    No one is "forever young and immortal". So, what's your point? I'm doing what I enjoy.

    P.S. Also, I didn't post to impress you. Why would I?
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  • vamp_emily
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    If Zeni controlled the world, nothing would be free.

    They would have "RARE" air hidden in loot boxes and forcing people to buy or die.



    If you want a friend, get a dog.
    AW Rank: Grand Warlord 1 ( level 49)

  • krachall
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    It never ceases to amaze me that people can complain about a company trying to make money.

    The fact that you can play the entire game for zero dollars is amazing. The fact that people complain that ZOS would charge money for certain parts of the game is absurd.

    I’d prefer ZOS charged $25/mo to play and had the ability to earn every crown store item in the game. Hell, I’d pay $50 a month so they could employ more devs and release more content (that I’d pay for).
    Edited by krachall on December 5, 2017 5:55PM
  • Tandor
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    I haven't bothered to watch the videos, I doubt they're worth my time doing so, but I'm surprised that someone who is concerned about such things should waste his time posting about it.
  • DMuehlhausen
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    duendology wrote: »
    Anyone who thinks that so called free events are free should watch this short video. Time is the currency here. Someone who does not understand it is a real child of this world of consumerism...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mho_usZDgls

    I hope many of you know this guy José Mujica.
    I also recommend watching the entire film:

    https://youtu.be/4GX6a2WEA1Q

    Such a screaming cry more post cause you didn't get the random item you wanted.
  • Ackwalan
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    Do you expect ZOS to have a promotion to encourage people NOT to play?
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    krachall wrote: »
    The fact that you can play the entire game for zero dollars is amazing.

    lol, please show me how.

    If you want a friend, get a dog.
    AW Rank: Grand Warlord 1 ( level 49)

  • duendology
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    @DMuehlhausen
    Did I make an impression here I counted on something or "cried" for something? I did not participate in the said event just observed the forum and "cries" and "whining" of others, as well as the general discussion about so called company greed and money spent on crown crates and alike and it made me post the videos instead of writing a wall of words. I thought they would be self-explanatory..apparently, they do require a wall of words of explanation, by the way.
    So, don't jump to your brilliant assumptions/conclusions that quickly, if you'd be so...kind.

    @Tandor
    Then refrain from commenting, please.. because you come across as a...well, an obnoxious type, to put it lightly. As you completely missed the point with YOUR brilliant and snarky reply. But, at least, you feel accomplished. I am glad I could be of help. And it would be really beneficial "waste" of time to watch these videos...won't hurt, I assure you.
    Edited by duendology on December 5, 2017 6:29PM
    PC/NA
    - Redguard StamBlade dps ["bowtard" crafty girl who likes spinning with daggers too.]
    - Breton SorcMag dps [She's got an identity crisis, but I believe in her.]
    - Dunmer Templar dps/healer [she's a healer, then again she likes inferno staff too...]
    And..
    - High Elf SorcMag dps [It's quite possible his daddy was a Nord.]

    I am an old-fashioned Goth
  • duendology
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    And wow.. I guess this is the first place I see people not "getting" Mujica's message.
    I am shocked...
    PC/NA
    - Redguard StamBlade dps ["bowtard" crafty girl who likes spinning with daggers too.]
    - Breton SorcMag dps [She's got an identity crisis, but I believe in her.]
    - Dunmer Templar dps/healer [she's a healer, then again she likes inferno staff too...]
    And..
    - High Elf SorcMag dps [It's quite possible his daddy was a Nord.]

    I am an old-fashioned Goth
  • Wreuntzylla
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    Hippie4927 wrote: »
    Your message is too late. I spent 43 years of my life earning money and now I sit on my [snip] and the money comes to me. I have plenty of time to waste. :p

    [Edited to remove profanity]

    Money makes some people happy, some people need more and others wonder why they wasted so much of their life amassing it.

    But for the young people out there:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJ7AzBIJoI
  • ManwithBeard9
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    I like potatoes.
  • KochDerDamonen
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    Yes yes. The air you breathe isn't free, the sunlight you walk beneath isn't free, the free things they give you for free in the video game isn't free. Nothing is free, when you consider time (that you elect to use in a certain way) and renewable/high-quantity resources as costs.


    Must be fun at parties. You're the grandmother that sinks her hooks into all the children, prying about when they're going to get a 'real job' and give her two or six great-grandkids, huh?


    Speak in words. :^)
    Edited by KochDerDamonen on December 5, 2017 6:32PM
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  • duendology
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    I like potatoes.

    I think I am too old for this forum..or you're trolling.
    I honestly want to know..
    PC/NA
    - Redguard StamBlade dps ["bowtard" crafty girl who likes spinning with daggers too.]
    - Breton SorcMag dps [She's got an identity crisis, but I believe in her.]
    - Dunmer Templar dps/healer [she's a healer, then again she likes inferno staff too...]
    And..
    - High Elf SorcMag dps [It's quite possible his daddy was a Nord.]

    I am an old-fashioned Goth
  • ManwithBeard9
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    duendology wrote: »

    I think I am too old for this forum..or you're trolling.
    I honestly want to know..

    Might be both, might be neither. Like the Schrodinger's cat of the forum world.
  • Tandor
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    duendology wrote: »

    @Tandor
    Then refrain from commenting, please.. because you come across as a...well, an obnoxious type, to put it lightly. As you completely missed the point with YOUR brilliant and snarky reply. But, at least, you feel accomplished. I am glad I could be of help. And it would be really beneficial "waste" of time to watch these videos...won't hurt, I assure you.

    Ah I see, you're one of those "Don't post on my topics if you don't agree with me" types.

    Bad luck, it's a discussion board, not your fansite.
  • Morvane
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    Hippie4927 wrote: »
    Your message is too late. I spent 43 years of my life earning money and now I sit on my [snip] and the money comes to me. I have plenty of time to waste. :p

    [Edited to remove profanity]

    u spoiled all young years to earn money? very pity :neutral:
    DC Dunmer Sorcerer since 2014
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  • DieAlteHexe
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    Morvane wrote: »

    u spoiled all young years to earn money? very pity :neutral:

    A necessity, I'm afraid. You do what you have to do in life to get by.

    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • stapeliad
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    duendology wrote: »

    I think I am too old for this forum..or you're trolling.
    I honestly want to know..

    It's perhaps the wrong audience. (the potatoes thing is just an internet trend)
    However a good message, even if mis-targeted, still lands where it needs to.
    I love the video, right up my alley. Thanks for sharing.
    (I also really enjoyed the dungeon event.)

    "The secret of life is enjoying the passage of time." -James Taylor
  • EvilAutoTech
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    Dorian Gray could have rocked this event. ;)
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    A necessity, I'm afraid. You do what you have to do in life to get by.

    You get an Insightful, Aesop

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    Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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    Delete kyne
  • Pheefs
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    Tandor wrote: »
    worth my time
    Tandor wrote: »
    waste his time

    @Tandor oh the irony!
    that's what the video is about!

    ...that Time is the true human currency, if you go to buy a new hat or an iphone its not only costing you money its costing you the time you spent to earn the money.
    Which seems simple, but we have a tendency as people to value the currency over our own efforts.
    & as a rule we really like shiny new things, which can set up a destructive cycle of giving all your time in exchange for new better stuffs.

    & @duendology I don't think its quite the same as the reward compulsion that gets us to "grind content" for prizes, by playing ESO at all, free or otherwise we are using our time on ourselves, choosing to spend our time on something fun.
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