Farming skyshards in Cyrodill delves..and death

duendology · December 2017

My experience in pvp is limited. I got some because obviously I unlocked alliance war skill line.....but..

Anyway, one thing I did not know about Cyrodil area..is that when you run delves you can still become a target to an enemy alliance player WITHIN a delve? And you can escape it by going stealth?
I was fighting a boss and a few mobs in one of the delves in southern Cyr (I am DC alliance)..and then, out of nowhere, I saw that archer *** who then killed me before I could even finish this boss or try to defend myself from the player. And then of course I can't *** revive in the delve. o_0
So.. I can escape enemy players by going stealth?

vamp_emily · December 2017

Do you need me again?

I live in cyrodill. My solution would be take me with you and I will rez when you die. Also I know the best routes to avoid enemy.

I've collected the skyshards in cyrodill on most my characters, very seldom did I die. When I did die, I would just go back and get the skyshard later.

Also check the maps in your home and guest campaigns early in the morning. It is the best time to get the skyshards behind enemy gates.

Asardes · December 2017

Cyrodiil is a PvP area. If you want to do the quests and delves there pick a sparsely populated campaign and do it at odd hours, when factions are at 1 line. Also note that delves in Cyrodiil have a special rule: most of them have 2-5 bosses that only spawn one at a time, when another one has been killed. They do so at random, so you may need to repeat the same boss over and over until the missing one spawns. You have to kill every one once for the delve to appear as cleared.

duendology · December 2017

@vamp_emily
Yes, especially when I am in a real red or yellow area.
I'd love another dungeon run too.

but I always worry I bother someone or am a pester. EHh me

@Asardes

Ehh, I am fairly aware it's a pvp area, you realise

I just did not know that the rule applies to delves as well. Also, I am confused about the stealth mode in pvp. When I'd go stealth overland it seemed I was still visible to players and it worked only "on" NPCs
Do you virtually become invisible to enemy players when on stealth? I've seen "ghosts" enemy players while I was looting in a few houses. They literally appeared for a few seconds and would then disappear. (at least they did not kill me, probably were there like me to farm).
So, yes, I am confused about this stealth mode. Does it work only in houses/delves etc?

And bosses within delves, thanks for the tips. I did not know that.. still it seemed I kept killing all the bosses within delves so far as I'd always get "completed: 'the name of a dungeon here' ". It's good to know that though! Thanks!

Asardes · December 2017

Stealth only works until you do damage, then it breaks. So you can't kill a boss in "stealth mode" unless you one-shot them then apply a skill that puts you again in stealth. Just start an attack on NPC or player from stealth mode and get a bonus for that first attack, according to class, racial or other passives.

duendology · December 2017

@Asardes

I am not talking about attacking a mob or a boss while stealth. Yes, I know it deals an extra damage the first time you attack from stealth mode (especially if you're a nightblade)

I want to know whether you're virtually invisible to enemy players (PVP thing) while you're in a stealth mode within a delve/house.. because it looks like it. How else can I explain seeing for seconds enemy players inside a delve or a house and then them disappearing in front of me.

Asardes · December 2017

Not unless you are crouching or using a stealth skill. There are various buffs from medium armor, race, class that affect the stealth distance and also some debuffs from gear sets and various active skills that can pull you out of stealth.

duendology · December 2017

Thanks!
I'll have to look into it.

zaria · December 2017

Asardes wrote: »

Not unless you are crouching or using a stealth skill. There are various buffs from medium armor, race, class that affect the stealth distance and also some debuffs from gear sets and various active skills that can pull you out of stealth.

This, stealth in cyrodil is very nice even then no bonuses, has been in middle of fights in stealth simply to ress group, but yes then you attack you are visible, now if you enter an delve and find dead enemies its an danger, it might be an enemy ahead.

Asardes · December 2017

zaria wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Not unless you are crouching or using a stealth skill. There are various buffs from medium armor, race, class that affect the stealth distance and also some debuffs from gear sets and various active skills that can pull you out of stealth.

This, stealth in cyrodil is very nice even then no bonuses, has been in middle of fights in stealth simply to ress group, but yes then you attack you are visible, now if you enter an delve and find dead enemies its an danger, it might be an enemy ahead.

That's why I always keep a hard hitting ult when doing PvE content in PvP areas. I don't attack first, and I signal people I don't want to engage by holding block, but if they do attack I usually drop something nasty on them. I once burned 2 potatoes on a delve boss with Thunderous Rage. They were so dumb that after attacking they did't even roll out of it. I got the completion achievement with a side dish of 3.6K AP

Mayrael · December 2017

You can also use invisibility potions to vanish in the middle of the fight, just dont step into AoEs and avoid detection skills

Hrogun · December 2017

Mayrael wrote: »

You can also use invisibility potions to vanish in the middle of the fight, just dont step into AoEs and avoid detection skills

This, I've been spending a lot of time in Cyro doing pve things on non-vampire chars and these potions come very handy.

Loc2262 · December 2017

Note that you don't need to actually kill a mob/boss to have the kill registered for you. It's sufficient to do a certain amount of damage, I think around 4%. So as soon as you did that, you can withdraw from the fight, use a Stealth skill or potion (yep you completely vanish for enemy players then, except they use countermeasures like Magelight), and wait it out. Just don't move away too far. Attacking or sprinting will pull you out of stealth.

Hecker777 · December 2017

Find PvP-savvy friends to take you through them. I regularly take my PvE focused guildies through to act as bodyguard.

duendology · December 2017

Hecker777 wrote: »

Find PvP-savvy friends to take you through them. I regularly take my PvE focused guildies through to act as bodyguard.

Oh I did. Or rather they found me: Friendly Dungeon Runners. @vamp_emily helped me (on my craft toon) to collect skyshards from Cyr and all in Imperial City! Imperial City is crazy! :P

But I know it will be fun while I get more accustomed to it!

Asardes · December 2017

When I want to do IC shards & quests fast I usually pick the least populated campaign, log in at 5 AM and I'm usually done with everything by 9. People only start showing up after 10.

duendology · December 2017

Well, I am an European on NA/PC server..so, yep, I know when to choose off-peak hours when doing either farming or questing in Cyr, you know. Not a problem with it.

My afternoon is usually the morning in the States;)

The reason I don't do it in other PvP Cyr campaigns but home one is because usually I stumble upon some small fight or alike..and can be of some help..and it always adds points.