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So this new event is completely designed to crap on DPS players?

lagrue
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Seriously ZOS... why did group finder have to be part of it. Any DPS worth his salt knows Dungeon finder will never put him in a game, or take over an hour to do so because everybody and their dog plays DPS. It's been a longstanding issue and now you somehow thought up this brilliant event which is only good for Healers and Tanks...

Why couldn't it just be dungeons in general... why did it have to be group finder?
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  • Elusiin
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    Be patient. It'll happen. Or queue with guild friends. If you don't have a guild, ask in zone chat. It's really easy to get a full party and to skip the whole dps wait altogether.
  • Narvuntien
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    No better time to learn to tank, or heal...although perhaps you should of prepared in advanced.

    My trade and PVE guilds are constantly spamming for groups so I haven't been struggling to get the event boxes on each of my characters.

  • JamieAubrey
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    I'm a DPS, queued up BAM straight into a group
  • SBC
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    I'm a DPS, queued up BAM straight into a group

    I generally get pretty quick queues as a dps myself, but a friend of mine will be in chat with me on PSN, also queued, and it never pulls him in. I can usually finish one and queue again before his goes in once. It's rather odd.
  • lagrue
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    Narvuntien wrote: »
    No better time to learn to tank, or heal...although perhaps you should of prepared in advanced.

    My trade and PVE guilds are constantly spamming for groups so I haven't been struggling to get the event boxes on each of my characters.

    I have a tank and a healer actually... but I would like to monopolize on the event with all my characters. And also how do you expect one to prepare for an event nobody had any idea was coming?
    Edited by lagrue on December 2, 2017 11:44AM
    PSN ID (NA only): Zuzu_With_a_Z
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  • lagrue
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    I'm a DPS, queued up BAM straight into a group

    Wish I had your luck, I did eventually get in but it took 11 minutes according to the que clock.
    PSN ID (NA only): Zuzu_With_a_Z
    *GRAND MASTER CRAFTER*

    "You must defeat me every time. I need defeat you only once"
  • OutLaw_Nynx
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    Make friends and just do normals.

    I was a fake healer for ROM, VOM and Falkreath lol.
  • ThePrinceOfBargains
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    I was surprised by how fast getting into a group was. Usually takes 10-20 minutes (possibly longer), but for the duration of the event, I have yet to be in the queue for longer than a few minutes. And if someone “declines,” they don’t lie and say I’m put at the front of the queue when I’m really not. It’s been a pleasant experience, at least in that regard. Still haven’t gotten that Dark Shaman costume, though...
  • supaskrub
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    Smart cookies find friends/guildies, set roles and then use the random dungeon finder... you don't have to use teh whole functionality of the group finder..
  • Sixty5
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    I mean my DPS only queues haven't been to trerribly long.

    Usually, I'll slot a heal skill or a taunt and just double queue, and run as hybrid (But really still mainly DPS)

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  • Icy_Waffles
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    On some of my mag dps i threw resto and skills on backbar, and inner fire on some stam toons. Good enough for tank/heals for random normal dungeons and allows me to put in some extra damage bc a lot of the dps running sucks. Havent had an issue at all.
  • Surgee
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    lagrue wrote: »
    Seriously ZOS... why did group finder have to be part of it. Any DPS worth his salt knows Dungeon finder will never put him in a game, or take over an hour to do so because everybody and their dog plays DPS. It's been a longstanding issue and now you somehow thought up this brilliant event which is only good for Healers and Tanks...

    Why couldn't it just be dungeons in general... why did it have to be group finder?

    You know why there is no tanks? Because most of DPS are triggerhappy fools that rush everywhere and don't wait for tanks to take control of the battlefield first. I'm a tank and my wife is a healer and when we play with friends we do great and stick to our roles. Tank goes in first, gets quick control of the battlefield dps follows and kill everything with minimal risk because tank and healer got it under control. When we go with random dps, we feel like dogs following the trigger-happy dps that turn the dungeon into a massive chaos and eventually lead to a wipe. Asking in chat to let the tank go in first doesn't help at all. Zero communication. I dare you to make a tank and try to enjoy group play with randoms. Who would want to be a tank or a healer if no one respects your job and doesn't cooperate? My only char is a pure tank and my wife's a pure healer and we're done with matchmaking. We're always willing to help people who actually try to cooperate and let us do our job though.

    On a side note, we always were getting a group in the matchmaking instantly.
    Edited by Surgee on December 2, 2017 12:14PM
  • Slick_007
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    Surgee wrote: »
    You know why there is no tanks? Because most of DPS are triggerhappy fools that rush everywhere and don't wait for tanks to take control of the battlefield first. I'm a tank and my wife is a healer and when we play with friends we do great and stick to our roles. Tank goes in first, gets quick control of the battlefield dps follows and kill everything with minimal risk because tank and healer got it under control. When we go with random dps, we feel like dogs following the trigger-happy dps that turn the dungeon into a massive chaos and eventually lead to a wipe. Asking in chat to let the tank go in first doesn't help at all. Zero communication. I dare you to make a tank and try to enjoy group play with randoms. Who would want to be a tank or a healer if no one respects your job and doesn't cooperate? My only char is a pure tank and my wife's a pure healer and we're done with matchmaking. We're always willing to help people who actually try to cooperate and let us do our job though.

    On a side note, we always were getting a group in the matchmaking instantly.

    as a dps 1. had no issues with q's and 2. you are correct

    as dps, i make sure i am never the first to attack. but then iv played other mmos with groups of friends where we had roles and we did pretty well with it. im used to it. iv done dps and heals before eso.
  • Mureel
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    Make friends and just do normals.

    I was a fake healer for ROM, VOM and Falkreath lol.
    Yep fake for vom bf and wgt on my skateblade
  • swirve
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    Make friends and just do normals.

    I was a fake healer for ROM, VOM and Falkreath lol.

    You should be on Santas naughty list.

    Ppl like you are why for example a real healer has to tank, DPS and heal through a dng...
  • DiePainPain
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    blame idiots quening their storage accounts for freebies
  • Runefang
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    People are such whiners. If I'm in a normal pug I'm happy if they use AoE attacks.

    If you don't want bad experiences then don't pug. If you don't want to play with players who don't do their role properly then don't pug.

    Personally I'm having a great time, my guilds have never been so talkative.
  • starkerealm
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    I'm seeing 10m DPS queues. Just long enough to be kinda annoying, but not so long as to be legitimately onerous.
  • OutLaw_Nynx
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    Mureel wrote: »
    Make friends and just do normals.

    I was a fake healer for ROM, VOM and Falkreath lol.
    Yep fake for vom bf and wgt on my skateblade

    @Mureel


    Skateblade???
  • lagrue
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    Runefang wrote: »
    People are such whiners. If I'm in a normal pug I'm happy if they use AoE attacks.

    If you don't want bad experiences then don't pug. If you don't want to play with players who don't do their role properly then don't pug.

    Personally I'm having a great time, my guilds have never been so talkative.

    What does this have to do with my topic?
    PSN ID (NA only): Zuzu_With_a_Z
    *GRAND MASTER CRAFTER*

    "You must defeat me every time. I need defeat you only once"
  • Mureel
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    Mureel wrote: »
    Make friends and just do normals.

    I was a fake healer for ROM, VOM and Falkreath lol.
    Yep fake for vom bf and wgt on my skateblade

    @Mureel


    Skateblade???

    I use it mainly to just easy mob farm as on NA I am sub 500cp and with my sets I can easy farm IC and cap flags in IC etc. So xp, ap, telvar easy! I call her my skateblade at the moment. But because I main a healer and know wtf to do, I can heal on her for normals (and several vets) ezpz too.
    Edited by Mureel on December 2, 2017 1:10PM
  • Fingolfinn01
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    this is a platform problem maybe? because all platforms are lobbed into this forum it can get confusing as to which platform you are referring to.
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  • Mureel
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    blame idiots quening their storage accounts for freebies

    Lol dps’d On my bank alt (literally dw stam dk nord with lightning staff on back bar) and did 40% of group dps on combat meter so xD (Let’s don’t tell him I also queued as tank!)

    Edited by Mureel on December 3, 2017 12:15AM
  • Mureel
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    swirve wrote: »
    Make friends and just do normals.

    I was a fake healer for ROM, VOM and Falkreath lol.

    You should be on Santas naughty list.

    Ppl like you are why for example a real healer has to tank, DPS and heal through a dng...

    Except most I’ve met the last days really don’t mind. I don’t know why some people are getting so concerned over it.
  • VaranisArano
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    lagrue wrote: »
    Narvuntien wrote: »
    No better time to learn to tank, or heal...although perhaps you should of prepared in advanced.

    My trade and PVE guilds are constantly spamming for groups so I haven't been struggling to get the event boxes on each of my characters.

    I have a tank and a healer actually... but I would like to monopolize on the event with all my characters. And also how do you expect one to prepare for an event nobody had any idea was coming?

    No one? We've known about it ever since ZOS announced the Sweepstakes about a month ago. Sure the detailed post went up right before the event, but the information that this was happening has been out there. I turned most of my characters its tanks or healers for it about a week ago.
  • BlanketFort
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    Runefang wrote: »
    People are such whiners. If I'm in a normal pug I'm happy if they use AoE attacks.

    If you don't want bad experiences then don't pug. If you don't want to play with players who don't do their role properly then don't pug.

    Personally I'm having a great time, my guilds have never been so talkative.

    Wait wait wait, no. it's the other way around. The dungeon finder actually wants you to select a role. If you don't want the trinity, then go do pre-mades and keep your fake roles out of PUGs.
  • MakoFore
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    honestly best way is just to advertise in zone:
    "LF3M who want to grind normal dungeons with a bunch of toons"

    join up with 3- put any role to make DF happy- provided theyre decent enough- and just run thru it, disband - relog- and regroup and repeat. with 3 fellow guild mates or zone players- u can slam thru it with 10 toons in like an hour and a half- two hours.
  • Buffler
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    They are normals, just queue as a healer.
  • Unfadingsilence
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    All my toons are dps and got in pretty fast
  • VaranisArano
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    Buffler wrote: »
    They are normals, just queue as a healer.

    Enjoy your Darkshade Caverns II run. If you have to fake a role, fake a tank. Not that I recommend that, but your group might well NEED a healer.
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