Variety/combos in weapon attacks

tinythinker

The developers like light and heavy attacks. They LOVE fully charged heavy attacks. For best dps weave light attacks. For recovery mode weave heavy attacks.

OK.

They also have a fast-paced combat game compared to WoW, FFXIV, etc., the change to more heavy attack weaving notwithstanding.

So... can weapon attacks feel more fun and interesting?

I actually like some of the animations for melee weapons, which is cool, but, you always feel like you are just playing around and should only weave those attacks but never use them outside of that.

Consider the options if weapon attacks did more.

You could choose to mostly use abilities and weave weapon attacks as appropriate, or, there could be times when an extended 3-4 hit weapon attack combo would be better or just as effective. More choice in gameplay. Different weapons could have their own special animation or effect for the combos. And I don't mean having some counter on the screen like a fighting game (x1... x2... x3!...x4!!! Megacombo!!!).

More like, light->light->fully charged heavy doing some real damage or maybe causing some status effect while also boost the hit on the heavy. Whereas heavy->light->fully charged heavy does an huge amount of damage with broad splash/stuns.

Anyway, would love this for my stamplar. *whack* *whack* *BOOOM*

On the off chance you like something along these lines, react/comment

TheShadowScout

Sounds like a nifty idea. There could be a lot of different combos... after all, we do not only have light and heavy attacks, but also block and bash to weave into a sequence... Light-Light-bash for example, or Heavy-Light-Block... and there could be various effects, some making the last attack in the sequence do something special, others having another effect, like empowering the next class skill after the sequence, or recovering extra stamina/mana (I know many people unhappy with the recent changes in recovery CP options might appreciate this)...

ak_pvp

Not exactly the same, but DK has combos in the form of whip.

Abilities working better/added effects when a specific condition would be nice for dynamic combat, like if someone is offbalanced a light attack could stagger them back until the offbalance wore off, or maybe bashing a gapcloser at the right time could send the enemy flying past you. Jump attacks or jumping on an enemy from a height with a direct/melee attack could have extra effects. Just lots of things to mix up the combat and raise the skillcap.

However I am not sure I would like a full on 1-2-3-4 style combo since it would end up either being useless, or over effective and everyone would be doing the same thing. I like the semi open endedness so that you can create your own combos with a variety of abilities that fit.

tinythinker

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Sounds like a nifty idea. There could be a lot of different combos... after all, we do not only have light and heavy attacks, but also block and bash to weave into a sequence... Light-Light-bash for example, or Heavy-Light-Block... and there could be various effects, some making the last attack in the sequence do something special, others having another effect, like empowering the next class skill after the sequence, or recovering extra stamina/mana (I know many people unhappy with the recent changes in recovery CP options might appreciate this)...

Yeah, I was going for the simplest possible scenario of three strike combos. But bows could get dodge roll in the mix, one hand and shield could get block in the mix, etc.

ak_pvp wrote: »

Not exactly the same, but DK has combos in the form of whip.

And NBs have the spectral bow ability, but I mean just using your weapon.

ak_pvp wrote: »

However I am not sure I would like a full on 1-2-3-4 style combo since it would end up either being useless, or over effective and everyone would be doing the same thing. I like the semi open endedness so that you can create your own combos with a variety of abilities that fit.

The idea is that you would have lots of 3 or in some cases 4 weapon move combos but each gives something different. Nothing OP, just things that make doing more than weaving worthwhile.

One combo for dual wield might be great under condition X, or if you have a certain build/playstyle, but that combo isn't the go-to meta. In fact, the point is that you would gain another dimension to making your own combat style by having another series of options.

Sure, some people would swear by this one "ideal" build/rotation, but people do that now. You could have ability 1->combo 2->combo 2 be more or less as good as ability 4->combo 1->combo 3, but maybe one feels better to a particular player than the other. Or just stick with ability 1 - weave - ability 3 - weave - ability 1- weave... that's OK, too.


where do these typos come from... oh yeah that work week and then like 10 or so random dungeons...