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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    ...veiled strike. When are piercing mark and/or cloak being fixed? When are you going to do something about Miats?

    The changes for Miat's isn't something we're including in an incremental patch, and will be in a larger update (as @lordrichter mentioned). Regarding Piercing Mark and Cloak, you'll need to be a bit more specific. Simply saying "when will it be fixed" without any context prevents us from looking up specific issues and checking on status, and actually makes it take longer to communicate. In doing a quick search across the bug reports here on the forums, there's nothing even mentioning Piercing Mark.
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  • Asgari
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    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    ...veiled strike. When are piercing mark and/or cloak being fixed? When are you going to do something about Miats?

    The changes for Miat's isn't something we're including in an incremental patch, and will be in a larger update (as @lordrichter mentioned). Regarding Piercing Mark and Cloak, you'll need to be a bit more specific. Simply saying "when will it be fixed" without any context prevents us from looking up specific issues and checking on status, and actually makes it take longer to communicate. In doing a quick search across the bug reports here on the forums, there's nothing even mentioning Piercing Mark.

    For cloak i think they are possibly refering to the recent issue with cloak where any light attack pulls you out of cloak instantly.

    I hit cloak the same time they light attack and you never cloak, instantly pulled out which shouldn't be the case and wasn't before CWC.
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  • casparian
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    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    ...veiled strike. When are piercing mark and/or cloak being fixed? When are you going to do something about Miats?

    The changes for Miat's isn't something we're including in an incremental patch, and will be in a larger update (as @lordrichter mentioned). Regarding Piercing Mark and Cloak, you'll need to be a bit more specific. Simply saying "when will it be fixed" without any context prevents us from looking up specific issues and checking on status, and actually makes it take longer to communicate. In doing a quick search across the bug reports here on the forums, there's nothing even mentioning Piercing Mark.

    Cloak bug

    Draining shot bug

    Mass Hysteria bug

    All with clear video explaining the bug and demonstrating how to reproduce it, but no ZOS comments.

    Though y'all have acknowledged the issue, Shadow Image is still broken.

    Additionally, there have been reports (in forum and in the guilds I'm in) that the Master Assassin passive is not giving bonus damage when in stealth.

    The Piercing Mark "bug" just seems to be some players who don't play NB not understanding game mechanics.
    Edited by casparian on November 28, 2017 3:06PM
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  • T4T2FR34K
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    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    ...veiled strike. When are piercing mark and/or cloak being fixed? When are you going to do something about Miats?

    The changes for Miat's isn't something we're including in an incremental patch, and will be in a larger update (as @lordrichter mentioned). Regarding Piercing Mark and Cloak, you'll need to be a bit more specific. Simply saying "when will it be fixed" without any context prevents us from looking up specific issues and checking on status, and actually makes it take longer to communicate. In doing a quick search across the bug reports here on the forums, there's nothing even mentioning Piercing Mark.

    Ahh I mentioned it over here ( https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/381859/i-wanna-know#latest )and was talking to the community ambassador, kinda assumed based on the responses that it was getting past along...I see now that it was not...
  • Qbiken
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    Turelus wrote: »
    *sigh* I am sure when all the above demands are fixed people will still come and rant something else isn't fixed.

    Maybe some fixes take longer than others? Just because it's acknowledged or worked on doesn't mean it's simple.

    Even tho I can see your point I think the underlying problem is the lack of communication from ZOS regarding other bugs. Like, one or two comments/posts from the dev-team addressing some issues (like Templar dps skills as an example) and their plan on when and/or how to fix it, would be enough. Even if ZOS went out and said something like: We´ll have all Templar skills fixed by the end February/mars (or whatever) I think people would be ok with it, because it´s better than no communication at all.
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    casparian wrote: »
    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    ...veiled strike. When are piercing mark and/or cloak being fixed? When are you going to do something about Miats?

    The changes for Miat's isn't something we're including in an incremental patch, and will be in a larger update (as @lordrichter mentioned). Regarding Piercing Mark and Cloak, you'll need to be a bit more specific. Simply saying "when will it be fixed" without any context prevents us from looking up specific issues and checking on status, and actually makes it take longer to communicate. In doing a quick search across the bug reports here on the forums, there's nothing even mentioning Piercing Mark.

    Cloak bug

    Draining shot bug

    Mass Hysteria bug

    All with clear video explaining the bug and demonstrating how to reproduce it, but no ZOS comments.

    Though y'all have acknowledged the issue, Shadow Image is still broken.

    Additionally, there have been reports (in forum and in the guilds I'm in) that the Master Assassin passive is not giving bonus damage when in stealth.

    The Piercing Mark "bug" just seems to be some players who don't play NB not understanding game mechanics.

    Thanks, will take a look at those threads today and see if we can track down an update.
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  • casparian
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    casparian wrote: »
    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    ...veiled strike. When are piercing mark and/or cloak being fixed? When are you going to do something about Miats?

    The changes for Miat's isn't something we're including in an incremental patch, and will be in a larger update (as @lordrichter mentioned). Regarding Piercing Mark and Cloak, you'll need to be a bit more specific. Simply saying "when will it be fixed" without any context prevents us from looking up specific issues and checking on status, and actually makes it take longer to communicate. In doing a quick search across the bug reports here on the forums, there's nothing even mentioning Piercing Mark.

    Cloak bug

    Draining shot bug

    Mass Hysteria bug

    All with clear video explaining the bug and demonstrating how to reproduce it, but no ZOS comments.

    Though y'all have acknowledged the issue, Shadow Image is still broken.

    Additionally, there have been reports (in forum and in the guilds I'm in) that the Master Assassin passive is not giving bonus damage when in stealth.

    The Piercing Mark "bug" just seems to be some players who don't play NB not understanding game mechanics.

    Thanks, will take a look at those threads today and see if we can track down an update.

    Thank you! :)
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  • madeeh91rwb17_ESO
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    Isn't VICIOUS DEATH also bugged? (Doesn't explode)
  • T4T2FR34K
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    casparian wrote: »
    The Piercing Mark "bug" just seems to be some players who don't play NB not understanding game mechanics.

    I'm not sure you should be speaking about understanding mechanics...piercing mark clearly states see them stealthed/invisible...so when they go invisible while marked...that's an issue...
  • Koolio
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    casparian wrote: »
    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    ...veiled strike. When are piercing mark and/or cloak being fixed? When are you going to do something about Miats?

    The changes for Miat's isn't something we're including in an incremental patch, and will be in a larger update (as @lordrichter mentioned). Regarding Piercing Mark and Cloak, you'll need to be a bit more specific. Simply saying "when will it be fixed" without any context prevents us from looking up specific issues and checking on status, and actually makes it take longer to communicate. In doing a quick search across the bug reports here on the forums, there's nothing even mentioning Piercing Mark.

    Cloak bug

    Draining shot bug

    Mass Hysteria bug

    All with clear video explaining the bug and demonstrating how to reproduce it, but no ZOS comments.

    Though y'all have acknowledged the issue, Shadow Image is still broken.

    Additionally, there have been reports (in forum and in the guilds I'm in) that the Master Assassin passive is not giving bonus damage when in stealth.

    The Piercing Mark "bug" just seems to be some players who don't play NB not understanding game mechanics.

    Thanks, will take a look at those threads today and see if we can track down an update.

    Can we also get an update to healing ward?
  • Sandman929
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    Everyone should use the timeline of fixing Willows Path as a guide to how long it takes to fix anything and everything. The smallest unit of time in the rest of the physical world is the time it takes light to travel one Planck length; the smallest unit of time for ZOS is 4 months, or one ZOS unit.
  • LiquidPony
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    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    ...veiled strike. When are piercing mark and/or cloak being fixed? When are you going to do something about Miats?

    The changes for Miat's isn't something we're including in an incremental patch, and will be in a larger update (as @lordrichter mentioned). Regarding Piercing Mark and Cloak, you'll need to be a bit more specific. Simply saying "when will it be fixed" without any context prevents us from looking up specific issues and checking on status, and actually makes it take longer to communicate. In doing a quick search across the bug reports here on the forums, there's nothing even mentioning Piercing Mark.

    Ahh I mentioned it over here ( https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/381859/i-wanna-know#latest )and was talking to the community ambassador, kinda assumed based on the responses that it was getting past along...I see now that it was not...

    Maybe try posting that in the "Bug Reports" forum?
  • T4T2FR34K
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    ...veiled strike. When are piercing mark and/or cloak being fixed? When are you going to do something about Miats?

    The changes for Miat's isn't something we're including in an incremental patch, and will be in a larger update (as @lordrichter mentioned). Regarding Piercing Mark and Cloak, you'll need to be a bit more specific. Simply saying "when will it be fixed" without any context prevents us from looking up specific issues and checking on status, and actually makes it take longer to communicate. In doing a quick search across the bug reports here on the forums, there's nothing even mentioning Piercing Mark.

    Ahh I mentioned it over here ( https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/381859/i-wanna-know#latest )and was talking to the community ambassador, kinda assumed based on the responses that it was getting past along...I see now that it was not...

    Maybe try posting that in the "Bug Reports" forum?

    You think...I was asking for clarification...which is why its there...
  • Grabmoore
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    Minor PvP issues, half of which are L2P issues, and you freak out. Meanwhile my main ,magplar, collects dust because of class breaking bugs...

    RIP MagPlars :(
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  • TheYKcid
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    The cloak bug is awful. A decent player will generally weave-in a light attack before casting anything on you, so cloak is being broken EXTREMELY frequently when it should not be. Would really appreciate a quick fix.
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  • ManDraKE
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    the only way to use cloak nowadays is with eternal hunt to create distance between you and the enemies, otherwise everyone on meele range will pull you out of cloak with LA/bashes/etc. And pray that there isn't a dude just spamming light attacks with a staff or a bow, or even worst, lighting heavies, at that point cloak is just a waste of magika and slot.
  • BohnT
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    Can we get a fix to Soul trap aswell? It pulls players out of cloak with each tick. (It's being exploited massively on PC EU)
    Edited by BohnT on November 28, 2017 3:42PM
  • vovus69
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    yep, zos is like this - if you want something to be fixed, you start thread on reddit on outside forums and should be loud enough. After that - may be, if they have qualified dev who knows how this thing works, it will be fixed. But even in this case it will usually take long time.

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  • xSkullfox
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    casparian wrote: »
    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    ...veiled strike. When are piercing mark and/or cloak being fixed? When are you going to do something about Miats?

    The changes for Miat's isn't something we're including in an incremental patch, and will be in a larger update (as @lordrichter mentioned). Regarding Piercing Mark and Cloak, you'll need to be a bit more specific. Simply saying "when will it be fixed" without any context prevents us from looking up specific issues and checking on status, and actually makes it take longer to communicate. In doing a quick search across the bug reports here on the forums, there's nothing even mentioning Piercing Mark.

    Cloak bug

    Draining shot bug

    Mass Hysteria bug

    All with clear video explaining the bug and demonstrating how to reproduce it, but no ZOS comments.

    Though y'all have acknowledged the issue, Shadow Image is still broken.

    Additionally, there have been reports (in forum and in the guilds I'm in) that the Master Assassin passive is not giving bonus damage when in stealth.

    The Piercing Mark "bug" just seems to be some players who don't play NB not understanding game mechanics.

    Thanks, will take a look at those threads today and see if we can track down an update.

    Can we get an answer about the sanctum feeding pit ?
    Groupfinder:
    The worst part is when it finally puts you in a group, your healer turns into a werewolf, your tank has 14k HP and the dps is heavy armor, using a restro staff and a two handed sword on the backbar. Then comes the 15 minute penalty before the cycle starts anew.

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    • The second rule of Morrowind is: You do not talk about Morrowind.
    • Third rule of Morrowind: Someone yells NDA stuff, uploads images, streams, the game is over.
    • Fourth rule: only invited players can test.
    • Fifth rule: one invite at a time, fellas.
    • Sixth rule: crying or bashing on pts.
    • Seventh rule: NDA will go on as long as they have to.
    • And the eighth and final rule: If this is your first invite at Morrowind, you have to play.
  • Alaztor91
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    Could we also get an answer about DoT skills displaying ''miss'' when the target is cloaked,(because they are being suppressed?) and thus giving away his position?

    This happens when using the in-game damage/buff tracker so I don't know if it's intended or not.

  • Loc2262
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    Turelus wrote: »
    There are better ways to ask for the information. In the past people would go to the Natch Potes thread of the day and discuss the patch, maybe ask if there was an update on X bug and ZOS if they had time would come make a comment, we seem to have lost that.

    That might be because after a certain time, say a year, people are getting tired of investing energy in testing and reporting "properly", when apparently the issues aren't getting addressed in a timely fashion anyway. I can totally understand that. I fail to see how it can be so hard to fix a damage calculation for a skill like the Jesus beam. Just replace the "+" with a "*" if the multiplicative thing is an issue!

    The dev team must be seriously understaffed. (I'll forego making a snide comment about crown items here.)

    Edited by Loc2262 on November 28, 2017 4:44PM
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  • CavalryPK
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    casparian wrote: »
    casparian wrote: »
    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    ...veiled strike. When are piercing mark and/or cloak being fixed? When are you going to do something about Miats?

    The changes for Miat's isn't something we're including in an incremental patch, and will be in a larger update (as @lordrichter mentioned). Regarding Piercing Mark and Cloak, you'll need to be a bit more specific. Simply saying "when will it be fixed" without any context prevents us from looking up specific issues and checking on status, and actually makes it take longer to communicate. In doing a quick search across the bug reports here on the forums, there's nothing even mentioning Piercing Mark.

    Cloak bug

    Draining shot bug

    Mass Hysteria bug

    All with clear video explaining the bug and demonstrating how to reproduce it, but no ZOS comments.

    Though y'all have acknowledged the issue, Shadow Image is still broken.

    Additionally, there have been reports (in forum and in the guilds I'm in) that the Master Assassin passive is not giving bonus damage when in stealth.

    The Piercing Mark "bug" just seems to be some players who don't play NB not understanding game mechanics.

    Thanks, will take a look at those threads today and see if we can track down an update.

    Thank you! :)

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  • Sordidfairytale
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    casparian wrote: »
    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    ...veiled strike. When are piercing mark and/or cloak being fixed? When are you going to do something about Miats?

    The changes for Miat's isn't something we're including in an incremental patch, and will be in a larger update (as @lordrichter mentioned). Regarding Piercing Mark and Cloak, you'll need to be a bit more specific. Simply saying "when will it be fixed" without any context prevents us from looking up specific issues and checking on status, and actually makes it take longer to communicate. In doing a quick search across the bug reports here on the forums, there's nothing even mentioning Piercing Mark.

    Cloak bug

    Draining shot bug

    Mass Hysteria bug

    All with clear video explaining the bug and demonstrating how to reproduce it, but no ZOS comments.

    Though y'all have acknowledged the issue, Shadow Image is still broken.

    Additionally, there have been reports (in forum and in the guilds I'm in) that the Master Assassin passive is not giving bonus damage when in stealth.

    The Piercing Mark "bug" just seems to be some players who don't play NB not understanding game mechanics.

    Thanks, will take a look at those threads today and see if we can track down an update.

    One can see why it's frustrating when the customer service and in game support tells you to post an issue on the forums, promising that is where it will get the attention of the devs.

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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    vovus69 wrote: »
    yep, zos is like this - if you want something to be fixed, you start thread on reddit on outside forums and should be loud enough. After that - may be, if they have qualified dev who knows how this thing works, it will be fixed. But even in this case it will usually take long time.

    -vovus

    The last thread that was replied to on reddit was 21 days ago. Not sure this argument holds water anymore at this point.
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  • casparian
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    casparian wrote: »
    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    ...veiled strike. When are piercing mark and/or cloak being fixed? When are you going to do something about Miats?

    The changes for Miat's isn't something we're including in an incremental patch, and will be in a larger update (as @lordrichter mentioned). Regarding Piercing Mark and Cloak, you'll need to be a bit more specific. Simply saying "when will it be fixed" without any context prevents us from looking up specific issues and checking on status, and actually makes it take longer to communicate. In doing a quick search across the bug reports here on the forums, there's nothing even mentioning Piercing Mark.

    Cloak bug

    Draining shot bug

    Mass Hysteria bug

    All with clear video explaining the bug and demonstrating how to reproduce it, but no ZOS comments.

    Though y'all have acknowledged the issue, Shadow Image is still broken.

    Additionally, there have been reports (in forum and in the guilds I'm in) that the Master Assassin passive is not giving bonus damage when in stealth.

    The Piercing Mark "bug" just seems to be some players who don't play NB not understanding game mechanics.

    Thanks, will take a look at those threads today and see if we can track down an update.

    One can see why it's frustrating when the customer service and in game support tells you to post an issue on the forums, promising that is where it will get the attention of the devs.

    You do know that Gina doesn't fix bugs, right? And that the bug-fixer devs don't post on the forums? What happens is something like this:
    - Bug-fixer dev sees a bug report (from in-game reporting tools or from the forums) for Bug X
    - Bug-fixer dev adds Bug X to their to-do list
    - Gina finds out from bug-fixer dev that Bug X is being worked on
    - Gina lets us know that Bug X is being worked on

    But sometimes step 3 doesn't happen because Gina doesn't know that X is a bug even if the actual bug-fixer devs do, or hasn't spoken to the right bug-fixer dev, or Gina has spent all her time chasing down what's happening with Bug Y (not to mention the rest of her job), or whatever. Stop confusing "Gina hasn't talked about it" with "ZOS doesn't care and can't fix their game".
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  • Sordidfairytale
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    casparian wrote: »
    casparian wrote: »
    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    ...veiled strike. When are piercing mark and/or cloak being fixed? When are you going to do something about Miats?

    The changes for Miat's isn't something we're including in an incremental patch, and will be in a larger update (as @lordrichter mentioned). Regarding Piercing Mark and Cloak, you'll need to be a bit more specific. Simply saying "when will it be fixed" without any context prevents us from looking up specific issues and checking on status, and actually makes it take longer to communicate. In doing a quick search across the bug reports here on the forums, there's nothing even mentioning Piercing Mark.

    Cloak bug

    Draining shot bug

    Mass Hysteria bug

    All with clear video explaining the bug and demonstrating how to reproduce it, but no ZOS comments.

    Though y'all have acknowledged the issue, Shadow Image is still broken.

    Additionally, there have been reports (in forum and in the guilds I'm in) that the Master Assassin passive is not giving bonus damage when in stealth.

    The Piercing Mark "bug" just seems to be some players who don't play NB not understanding game mechanics.

    Thanks, will take a look at those threads today and see if we can track down an update.

    One can see why it's frustrating when the customer service and in game support tells you to post an issue on the forums, promising that is where it will get the attention of the devs.

    You do know that Gina doesn't fix bugs, right? And that the bug-fixer devs don't post on the forums? What happens is something like this:
    - Bug-fixer dev sees a bug report (from in-game reporting tools or from the forums) for Bug X
    - Bug-fixer dev adds Bug X to their to-do list
    - Gina finds out from bug-fixer dev that Bug X is being worked on
    - Gina lets us know that Bug X is being worked on

    But sometimes step 3 doesn't happen because Gina doesn't know that X is a bug even if the actual bug-fixer devs do, or hasn't spoken to the right bug-fixer dev, or Gina has spent all her time chasing down what's happening with Bug Y (not to mention the rest of her job), or whatever. Stop confusing "Gina hasn't talked about it" with "ZOS doesn't care and can't fix their game".

    You're decidedly confusing, why point out that ZOS hadn't commented on the three bugs you linked unless you think that the current system is frustrating to someone submitting a bug report?
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  • Rainraven
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    Turelus wrote: »
    *sigh* I am sure when all the above demands are fixed people will still come and rant something else isn't fixed.

    Maybe some fixes take longer than others? Just because it's acknowledged or worked on doesn't mean it's simple.

    Mmhm. People are so unreasonable with their expectation their class abilities will actually work. :'(
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Love how other classes get fixed faster than Templars. Love it. 10/10.

    /Salt

    Don’t you know? Nightblades are the dev’s favorite class. Why do you think they are constantly getting special treatment, and tons upon tons of perks back after back? Meanwhile DK’s and Templars get done dirty.
  • olsborg
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    Please fix shadow image before 2018 ...

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  • West93
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    Its so frustrating to see that templar radiant,sweeps/jabs damage are not fixed since morrowind, while NB gets special hotfix treatment. Disappointing.
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