What will be the next step of monetization in eso?

MBite

Well we can still breathe air, thats still free... OH NO I GAVE THEM IDEA, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

FloppyTouch

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Changing the name of dlc to something else so the can sell it for 40$....

Wait nvm they did that

Do you need to pay real money for expansions in WoW, SWTOR, GW2, etc? Or are they obtainable via "in-game" currency?

Those are expansions ESO does not have them we have “chapters” that are just the same as the old DLC renamed to make more money. While making dlc much much smaller like two dungeons or a tiny area.

vovus69

next logical step is the keys for the crates. Do several crates of different kinds, make them locked, and sell keys for them. Allow the worst possible crates, with some potions which nobody is using, to be dropped from the bosses - WB, dungeons, trials, etc. And sell keys to open those. Keys should be of different types too. More expensive might open less expensive crates (or not).
After that sell scrolls to buff the content of locked crate which will give you a bit better drop from the crate. Sell those scrolls in the store too.
and this is just a beginning...

-vovus

LonePirate

1. Express lanes to bypass Cyrodiil and dungeon queues.
2. Crown alchemy reagents, provisioning ingredients and recipes (weaker than in game versions)
3. Crown transmutation scrolls.
4. Crown transmogrification scrolls.
5. Crown armor and weapon sets (slightly weaker than in game sets)
6. Class and alliance change tokens
7. Conversion of the annual Q4 update to be a cash-only mini-chapter not accessible with ESO Plus
8. Reductions in the gem extraction rates from Crown Crate items

Chilly-McFreeze

lordrichter wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Unlikely_Ghostbuster wrote: »

Cadbury wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

Next step is F2P with P2W...

Lot of people already say ESO is F2P lol

ESO walks a couple of very fine lines, here...

Yes, it's Free-to-Play -- as long as you sell everything as trash as you don't have the crafting bag.

No, it's not Pay-to-Win -- as long as you don't count crown XP scrolls and the ESO+ XP buff.

Just one correction. It is not free-to-play. You have to pay money to purchase teso, therefore it's buy-to-play.

Just take out the hyphens. Free to play. No one can deny that.

Can you play it without buying it first? No. Just because you don't have to sub to play it doesn't mean it has unrestricted access.

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Changing the name of dlc to something else so the can sell it for 40$....

Wait nvm they did that

Do you need to pay real money for expansions in WoW, SWTOR, GW2, etc? Or are they obtainable via "in-game" currency?

Those are expansions ESO does not have them we have “chapters” that are just the same as the old DLC renamed to make more money. While making dlc much much smaller like two dungeons or a tiny area.

Doesn't change the fact that in (almost ?) every game you have to pay for additional content, one way or the other. Or did you really expect you can pay 10 bucks and get everything that comes afterwards for free? Even the DLCs have their price. They only added a fictional currency in between - same as with the crown crates but nobody says "crown crates are for free because you get 1.5k crowns each month for subbing", because the sub has to be payed as well.

And it doesn't matter if you call them "expansions" or "chapters", we both know what is meant. But yes, obviously they realized it was a mistake to throw out highly detailed, big content DLCs like Orisnium for... how much money does Orisinium cost if you buy it in the Crown Store?

Elsonso

LonePirate wrote: »

1. Express lanes to bypass Cyrodiil and dungeon queues.
2. Crown alchemy reagents, provisioning ingredients and recipes (weaker than in game versions)
3. Crown transmutation scrolls.
4. Crown transmogrification scrolls.
5. Crown armor and weapon sets (slightly weaker than in game sets)
6. Class and alliance change tokens
7. Conversion of the annual Q4 update to be a cash-only mini-chapter not accessible with ESO Plus
8. Reductions in the gem extraction rates from Crown Crate items

A lot of these have been suggested before.

1. Fast lane. I don't think they will do this. It just does not feel like something Bethesda Softworks would be interested in.
2. Reagents, ingredients, and recipes. I don't know why you thought to restrict them by making them weaker. Other than that, I think they could do this. I envision it as part of an overhaul of the provisioning and alchemy skills so that they don't have to work within the existing constraints.
3/4. Crown transmutation and transmogrification. This is a no-brainer. Be careful or they will think you have an inside source.
5. Crown gear. I know they came out and sort of said no, but I expect that this is going to happen. This is definitely something that I can see Bethesda being interested in leveraging, and when they do, it will probably be Crown Crate only. They will bypass the "pay to win" by claiming that they are weaker than in-game. That, too, will change.
6. Class and Alliance change tokens. This is another thing that is probably already on marketing's whiteboard.
7. Mini-chapter. Won't happen. No particular reason other than there are too many other things they could do. Besides, I expect that they will drop back from 3 DLC + 1 Chapter to no more than 2 DLC + 1 Chapter pretty soon. This will be so that the Chapter can be better, but if they do it, the real reason will be due to decreased investment in ESO.
8. Reducing lucky bag gems? No. Instead, they will increase the number of items that cannot be purchased with Gems.

I think that 2018 is the year where ESO changes importance within ZOS. Right now, I suspect that ESO DLC and Chapters are still the main thing that ZOS is working on. Over the next year, or so, I expect that to change. I am sure that there is a shoe that is going to drop. I am just not sure when.

Oakmontowls_ESO

lordrichter wrote: »

Second, I am wondering how long the "no weapons and armor" will stand. I don't expect it to last all the way to the end of the game.

They already have sold gold weapons and armor in the crown store last April.

Elsonso

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Second, I am wondering how long the "no weapons and armor" will stand. I don't expect it to last all the way to the end of the game.

They already have sold gold weapons and armor in the crown store last April.

Broom and bucket does not count. Edit: That said, they should never do it again.

Oberick

The only thing I really see them doing is making crates even more scammy up until they get to the point that even the whales and addicts can't take it. Then they will dial it back just enough to prevent riots.

SisterGoat

I actually want the broom and bucket, they are only 50 crowns each, and they are completely useless in combat but also hilarious if you are dueling. Nothing wrong with that.

zaria

lordrichter wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

1. Express lanes to bypass Cyrodiil and dungeon queues.
2. Crown alchemy reagents, provisioning ingredients and recipes (weaker than in game versions)
3. Crown transmutation scrolls.
4. Crown transmogrification scrolls.
5. Crown armor and weapon sets (slightly weaker than in game sets)
6. Class and alliance change tokens
7. Conversion of the annual Q4 update to be a cash-only mini-chapter not accessible with ESO Plus
8. Reductions in the gem extraction rates from Crown Crate items

A lot of these have been suggested before.

1. Fast lane. I don't think they will do this. It just does not feel like something Bethesda Softworks would be interested in.
2. Reagents, ingredients, and recipes. I don't know why you thought to restrict them by making them weaker. Other than that, I think they could do this. I envision it as part of an overhaul of the provisioning and alchemy skills so that they don't have to work within the existing constraints.
3/4. Crown transmutation and transmogrification. This is a no-brainer. Be careful or they will think you have an inside source.
5. Crown gear. I know they came out and sort of said no, but I expect that this is going to happen. This is definitely something that I can see Bethesda being interested in leveraging, and when they do, it will probably be Crown Crate only. They will bypass the "pay to win" by claiming that they are weaker than in-game. That, too, will change.
6. Class and Alliance change tokens. This is another thing that is probably already on marketing's whiteboard.
7. Mini-chapter. Won't happen. No particular reason other than there are too many other things they could do. Besides, I expect that they will drop back from 3 DLC + 1 Chapter to no more than 2 DLC + 1 Chapter pretty soon. This will be so that the Chapter can be better, but if they do it, the real reason will be due to decreased investment in ESO.
8. Reducing lucky bag gems? No. Instead, they will increase the number of items that cannot be purchased with Gems.

I think that 2018 is the year where ESO changes importance within ZOS. Right now, I suspect that ESO DLC and Chapters are still the main thing that ZOS is working on. Over the next year, or so, I expect that to change. I am sure that there is a shoe that is going to drop. I am just not sure when.

1) is too hard technical and its just relevant during pvp events or you just queue for one dungeon as DD.
2) probably not, also it will be overpriced.
3) transmutation, very unlikely as they are not very hard to get and it will smell P2W.
4) transmogrification on the other hand is cosmetic so decent chance it will be crown store involved.
5) is very unlikely, not even heirlom gear who level with you from level 1 to cp 150 and would not be good at end game.
Main issue is sets and builds.
One thing who might come with transmogrification is costume gear used as template for transmogrification.
6) Alliance change would solve some issues. Class change would also be pretty popular.
7) yes mini chapters it hardly make sense. And not sure if they manage the release schedule.

I expect housing will get more attention, more furniture slots, probably storage and services
At least furniture slots is trivial and will sell well. Storage would be the big one.
perhaps alchemy garden.

FloppyTouch

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Unlikely_Ghostbuster wrote: »

Cadbury wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

Next step is F2P with P2W...

Lot of people already say ESO is F2P lol

ESO walks a couple of very fine lines, here...

Yes, it's Free-to-Play -- as long as you sell everything as trash as you don't have the crafting bag.

No, it's not Pay-to-Win -- as long as you don't count crown XP scrolls and the ESO+ XP buff.

Just one correction. It is not free-to-play. You have to pay money to purchase teso, therefore it's buy-to-play.

Just take out the hyphens. Free to play. No one can deny that.

Can you play it without buying it first? No. Just because you don't have to sub to play it doesn't mean it has unrestricted access.

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Changing the name of dlc to something else so the can sell it for 40$....

Wait nvm they did that

Do you need to pay real money for expansions in WoW, SWTOR, GW2, etc? Or are they obtainable via "in-game" currency?

Those are expansions ESO does not have them we have “chapters” that are just the same as the old DLC renamed to make more money. While making dlc much much smaller like two dungeons or a tiny area.

Doesn't change the fact that in (almost ?) every game you have to pay for additional content, one way or the other. Or did you really expect you can pay 10 bucks and get everything that comes afterwards for free? Even the DLCs have their price. They only added a fictional currency in between - same as with the crown crates but nobody says "crown crates are for free because you get 1.5k crowns each month for subbing", because the sub has to be payed as well.

And it doesn't matter if you call them "expansions" or "chapters", we both know what is meant. But yes, obviously they realized it was a mistake to throw out highly detailed, big content DLCs like Orisnium for... how much money does Orisinium cost if you buy it in the Crown Store?

I expect to pay 15$ a month every month for access to every dlc they come out with like they promised us. Not change the name to bypass it.

Mojmir

5000 crowns for a /lurk
Getting something fixed is now a radiant reward from crates.

Kay1

Weapon skins

Weapon colors

Flying mounts who actually don't fly for 10k crowns

Instant lvl 50 potion

Jpk0012

I don't mind the store, at all. You want something in it? Buy it. You're supporting the upper management.

If there was a level 50 boost, I would probably buy it. I would hope not to see actual PTW items, but really in this world it wouldn't surprise me. Some of us would gut our own mother for a nickle. Some of those people people actually have influential positions.. oh like an FCC chairman.