Run Destro/Resto in PVP, and stack Hardened Ward and Healing Ward. 20k worth of shielding is your defense. Throw in some Mines, and liberal use of Streak, and you'll have yourself a pseudo tanky, kiting god.
As far as kills go, get a frag proc up, then use Curse, Mages Wrath, Rune Prison, Frag. That will kill about 80% of opponents outright if you have the right build.
Apart from that, running a PVP build in PVE tends to be a no-no. You can have some crossover, but sets that are good in one, tend not to be as effective in the other.
Mag sorc is actually in a pretty decent spot all round, despite what people here say. You have counters, but you will need to learn how to play around them, and you don't have the disgusting tankiness and burst of something like a stam warden.
Honestly, just look up a few guides and stick with the class. I'd say 90% of PVP is learning how to play your class in each situation.
LvDPrankWars wrote: »Im really struggling with it i find i lose most pvp encounters due to being so squishy and i also find the pvp build are so strict that youre terrible in pve, can someone maybe help shed some light as i really dont wana make a new char
what? lich backbar? spinners froont? are we back at homestead? xD
i would change it into wizzards riposte back bar, shacklebreaker, 1 domi and the cwc asylum destro staff for a modern today sorc build.
Yeah.. I went back to it recently. They key part is the combination of resist buffs/ulti recov with skills that are giving solid offensive buffs too - and to fit in a monster set with staves.. lich/spinners is still solid. Esp. with the sharpened nerf.
But then I'd never build around the asylum staff. I'm a PVPer - I don't do trials.
I´ve found that building around off-balance/concussion will gain more dmg increase than spinner (the difference isn´t big, like 2-3% or something). Think spinner in general will give you a 6% dps increase while off-balance/concussion will give you 8% increased dps. You literally just have to use the charged trait and you´ve an asylum destroy staff
I've honestly never tried charged. Aren't the chances to proc status effects still really low (except from glyph) - in which case (never really tried it) - but wouldn't infused with a shock enchant give almost as much chance of granting charged as charged (due to more frequent procs)? - but also more direct dmg from the glyph procs?
what? lich backbar? spinners froont? are we back at homestead? xD
i would change it into wizzards riposte back bar, shacklebreaker, 1 domi and the cwc asylum destro staff for a modern today sorc build.
catalyst10e wrote: »Just to add to everyone else; I'm a PVPer who has been occasionally dipping into PVE (especially with the PVP load screens) and you really do need 2 completely different set ups.
In PVP I'm still running spinners/lich with engine guardian, but since spinners can be a bit expensive and lich is behind a dungeon, You could honestly do alright in pvp with seducers/shacklebreaker/willpower
My front bar is inferno staff : Wrath / Frag / force shock / curse / hardened ward // meteor
with a Back bar of Resto Staff: Rune Cage / power surge / streak / healing ward / harness magicka // negate
keep it simple, have power surge up, open with curse, weave medium attacks with shock until a frag procs, finish with a wrath. When you need to be defensive you've got your shields, or streak, and if you're in a group, rune cage + negate on the enemy healer or sorc is amazing.
In PVE I run lich/necro with maw of infernal It's more of a joke setup that's ended up working ok for PVE it's not max damage and wont win you any DPS test but it does ok
Front bar: Lightning staff: volatile familiar / frag / elemental blockade / Twilight matriarch / hardened ward // greater Storm Atro
Back bar: Resto staff: Volatile familiar / curse / liquid lightning / twilight matriarch / harness magicka // Reviving Barrier
If you can't be good at PVE might as well be a 1 man army. This summoner build just summons pets, curse, drop a liquid lightning and blockade, activate familiar heavy attack till maw shows up, drop the atro. use your twilight to heal, hardened ward to keep you and your pets alive, and a barrier is always nice to help out. Again, it's not the best but wont requie you to change your CP or anything just to do some PVE it can solo normal dungeons and at least carry you through veteran ones even with a fairly bad group (we're all PVPers and still make it through fine)
even just doing a skill swap you could be successful. hope this helps
I've honestly never tried charged. Aren't the chances to proc status effects still really low (except from glyph) - in which case (never really tried it) - but wouldn't infused with a shock enchant give almost as much chance of granting charged as charged (due to more frequent procs)? - but also more direct dmg from the glyph procs?
FrancisCrawford wrote: »
Sounds like your PvE build could use a different Curse morph than your PvP one.
What you guys think about think Lich + necro + shadowrend set up?
It maims your opponent, have great sustain, and buffs you burst nicely when the pet procs.
The only problem is that I have 5 piece necro only in the front bar, and I can't fit hardened on it since CC changes
What you guys think about think Lich + necro + shadowrend set up?
It maims your opponent, have great sustain, and buffs you burst nicely when the pet procs.
The only problem is that I have 5 piece necro only in the front bar, and I can't fit hardened on it since CC changes
Good, but the pet is iffy. Unreliable. I've had fun with that setup, but got frustrated with Shadowrend running off.
Also lacks stam sustain.
Well you can always use Serpent if needed.
What you guys think about think Lich + necro + shadowrend set up?
It maims your opponent, have great sustain, and buffs you burst nicely when the pet procs.
The only problem is that I have 5 piece necro only in the front bar, and I can't fit hardened on it since CC changes
LvDPrankWars wrote: »Im really struggling with it i find i lose most pvp encounters due to being so squishy and i also find the pvp build are so strict that youre terrible in pve, can someone maybe help shed some light as i really dont wana make a new char
I guess now you can, but I don't wanna miss out on Mage, if possible.
Maybe I'm a potato, but I can't sustain that without atro mundus against a good stam player