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Axe bleed and flame lash
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Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
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Bleed chance is actually low, around 8% per axe if I'm not mistaken. I've tested even in PvE and it rarely procs enough to make it better than 2 daggers or swords. As for extra DoTs on a mag DK or Templar most abilities are already DoTs and will proc Skoria quite reliably. Also Skoria, being elemental damage, will hit harder with 5p light because it benefits from the added 4.9K penetration. If you do the maths you will also find that each extra DoT ability has diminishing returns in terms of proc chance. If you are running 3-4 already it will proc almost as soon as the cool down ends.
I know that, the point is to run less dots.
Nevertheless, I don't consider 8% proc chance quite low. Skoria procs on a 8% chance.
Anyway, if whip does not procs a bleed, then it is little chance I run axes and skoria
Yea but it's like 8% of 6% which is quite low. Your DoTs you can keep on almost constantly. If you want a more reliable DoT run BSW and/or infused or charged weapon with flame glyph. With charged the chance to apply burning is 85% and the DoT itself is quite strong since it benefits from class and CP passives.
That leads me to another question: A mDK running charged with a Poison glyph benefits of both, poisoned and burned effect? I believe it should
Yes, both will be buffed by your DK passives, but burning is stronger on magicka builds due to CP allocation and Concentration LA passive that gives penetration. In fact it's the strongest enchant hands down for any Magicka build in both PvE and PvP in terms of DPS.
But that's the thing, is it worth for an mDK to run 5 pieces LA to get penetration? Most mDKs go direct into HA in spite of the penetration they get on LA. All other stats given by those passives are meh
Though again, this is from a PvP perspective, in PvE I don't even consider going medium or heavySarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
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Asardes✭✭✭✭✭
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Bleed chance is actually low, around 8% per axe if I'm not mistaken. I've tested even in PvE and it rarely procs enough to make it better than 2 daggers or swords. As for extra DoTs on a mag DK or Templar most abilities are already DoTs and will proc Skoria quite reliably. Also Skoria, being elemental damage, will hit harder with 5p light because it benefits from the added 4.9K penetration. If you do the maths you will also find that each extra DoT ability has diminishing returns in terms of proc chance. If you are running 3-4 already it will proc almost as soon as the cool down ends.
I know that, the point is to run less dots.
Nevertheless, I don't consider 8% proc chance quite low. Skoria procs on a 8% chance.
Anyway, if whip does not procs a bleed, then it is little chance I run axes and skoria
Yea but it's like 8% of 6% which is quite low. Your DoTs you can keep on almost constantly. If you want a more reliable DoT run BSW and/or infused or charged weapon with flame glyph. With charged the chance to apply burning is 85% and the DoT itself is quite strong since it benefits from class and CP passives.
That leads me to another question: A mDK running charged with a Poison glyph benefits of both, poisoned and burned effect? I believe it should
Yes, both will be buffed by your DK passives, but burning is stronger on magicka builds due to CP allocation and Concentration LA passive that gives penetration. In fact it's the strongest enchant hands down for any Magicka build in both PvE and PvP in terms of DPS.
But that's the thing, is it worth for an mDK to run 5 pieces LA to get penetration? Most mDKs go direct into HA in spite of the penetration they get on LA. All other stats given by those passives are meh
Though again, this is from a PvP perspective, in PvE I don't even consider going medium or heavy
If you use 1H+S on one of your bars you can be very tanky even in 5 LA. Not to mention the sustain and damage increase. And you can run harness magicka to mitigate even more.Edited by Asardes on November 14, 2017 7:27PMBeta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
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Bleed chance is actually low, around 8% per axe if I'm not mistaken. I've tested even in PvE and it rarely procs enough to make it better than 2 daggers or swords. As for extra DoTs on a mag DK or Templar most abilities are already DoTs and will proc Skoria quite reliably. Also Skoria, being elemental damage, will hit harder with 5p light because it benefits from the added 4.9K penetration. If you do the maths you will also find that each extra DoT ability has diminishing returns in terms of proc chance. If you are running 3-4 already it will proc almost as soon as the cool down ends.
I know that, the point is to run less dots.
Nevertheless, I don't consider 8% proc chance quite low. Skoria procs on a 8% chance.
Anyway, if whip does not procs a bleed, then it is little chance I run axes and skoria
Yea but it's like 8% of 6% which is quite low. Your DoTs you can keep on almost constantly. If you want a more reliable DoT run BSW and/or infused or charged weapon with flame glyph. With charged the chance to apply burning is 85% and the DoT itself is quite strong since it benefits from class and CP passives.
That leads me to another question: A mDK running charged with a Poison glyph benefits of both, poisoned and burned effect? I believe it should
Yes, both will be buffed by your DK passives, but burning is stronger on magicka builds due to CP allocation and Concentration LA passive that gives penetration. In fact it's the strongest enchant hands down for any Magicka build in both PvE and PvP in terms of DPS.
But that's the thing, is it worth for an mDK to run 5 pieces LA to get penetration? Most mDKs go direct into HA in spite of the penetration they get on LA. All other stats given by those passives are meh
Though again, this is from a PvP perspective, in PvE I don't even consider going medium or heavy
If you use 1H+S on one of your bars you can be very tanky even in 5 LA. Not to mention the sustain and damage increase. And you can run harness magicka to mitigate even more.
Sustain is not that much... a 10% extra. With base 1k you must go for attro and witchmother to get a decent number and having a shield, though it increases you mitigation, is not a reliable option since you need to block with a small stam pool (unless you run sturdy and block decrease glyphs)
mDK has always been in a weird spot IMHO...Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
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✭Axiom does not help dragon blood heals and does not increase heal on embers. No bueno. Btw also does not help breath of life.Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Axiom does not help dragon blood heals and does not increase heal on embers. No bueno. Btw also does not help breath of life.
Really? That's bad. Wpn and spell dmg have always increased healsEdited by Xvorg on November 14, 2017 8:21PMSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
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It still works for jabs+dark flare and unstable core, though.
DKs got shafted from being able to use innate, though
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Toast_STS✭✭✭✭I noticed noxious breath was proccing bleed yesterday. Maybe burning breath will too?VR14 DK Leaps-in-keeps0
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Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I noticed noxious breath was proccing bleed yesterday. Maybe burning breath will too?
really?
But engulfing is... hmmm almost 2 years without slotting it... maybe I'll try it todayEdited by Xvorg on November 14, 2017 9:14PMSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
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✭✭✭✭But that's the thing, is it worth for an mDK to run 5 pieces LA to get penetration? Most mDKs go direct into HA in spite of the penetration they get on LA. All other stats given by those passives are meh
Though again, this is from a PvP perspective, in PvE I don't even consider going medium or heavy
Yes, LA is the way to go for mDKs if you want to kill.
I'm not seeing the case for medium mDK yet... but stranger things have worked.0 -
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✭✭"Melee" magika abilities don't count as melee attacks so won't proc it. For sustain in heavy just wear lich jewelry and S&B on back bar. Job done. Can forget light armor then in pvp.PC Master Race
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✭✭✭✭Probably a close to optimal setup for a PvP MDK would be something like 5 BSW 5/4 Sun (1H+S/Destro) with 2 heavy Skoria or Grothdarr for more health/undaunted bonus, running Apprentice mundus and Whichmother's Brew. You can hit 1.5-1.6K recovery with that setup. With Atronach you can hit 2K easily. You can enchant the back bar staff with a shock enchant to proc concussed, either charged or infused. For stamina simply enchant your bigger armor pieces, or all of them with Tri-Glyphs - you can hit 14-15K stamina depending on race. As for the tankiness given by harness magicka, you can simply stay in the destro ult zerg, spam that, take virtually no damage and even gain some magicka. Which is useful for a DK since it lacks mobility. Axiom is garbage. If you want something crafted, I'd suggest Shacklebreaker. That's good since it gives you quite a bit of extra stamina.Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
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Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
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Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
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Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |
Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
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