25 Asylum Clears...

JackWest92

pod88kk wrote: »

Pvp is how I got mine mate. Got the first rewards of the worthy on 1 character then logged on and did it on the next(all my characters are pve) I just did it by capturing resources and joining zergs capping keeps.
I get what you mean though I had lots of infinite load screens and had to relog/delete saved data on my Xbox but it is doable.

I just get 4-5 boxes with my pvp character, then open one box on each alt i have and thats easy 20-40 crystals a day only from pvp(depending on rng drops. Sometimes i get 4 on all characters someone i get 10 on half of them)

Baconlad

You can get 50 crystals in a day. Ive already retraited six items

Tryxus

I got my Charged Ice Staff and Sharpened Battle Axe in less than 10 runs

Now I just need the skin and I'm done with the place

Mettaricana

Off topic but how hard is nAS i would like atleast imperfect weapons 2hander

Brutusmax1mus

I ran a lot yesterday. Best rng I've ever had. Got a lightning destro, bow, maul, resto, snb, dw axe mace, fire destro, then repeats i have away. Made 40 crystals off of it too switching characters.

Ch4mpTW

Mettaricana wrote: »

Off topic but how hard is nAS i would like atleast imperfect weapons 2hander

In my opinion, it is very easy. I’ve only done it with PUG’s for the most part, and some of the people I’ve been in groups with have been as low as CP100-ish. A few CP200’s in the mix and so on. It’s that easy.

DjMuscleboy02

Lol, I've run it 21 times and have only gotten 2h, bow, and dw riiip

Jamini

Mettaricana wrote: »

Off topic but how hard is nAS i would like atleast imperfect weapons 2hander

Easier than nMoL, harder than nSO. Once you know the mechanics it gets easier.

Saint Llothis the Pious
1. If you get targeted by her cone attack (You will have a green mist on your body) STAY STILL AND BLOCK/SHIELD. DO NOT MOVE.
2. Tank should be holding the adds to the side. One DPS can work with the tank to kill the while everyone else focuses on the boss. Don't bother taunting the boss
3. When Llothis starts her AoE, inturrupt (bash, crush shock) her. Otherwise she does a knockdown + flameshaper type move.
4. She will teleport about once every cone > poison shaper move. Don't stand in the poison she leaves

Saint Felms the Bold
1. Felms will always jump to the person who is furthest from him. Stack your group to keep him in ground dots.
2. His adds deal significantly more AoE damage the longer they stay alive. Don't let them stay up.
3. He drops damage orbs that harm in an AoE and eventually explode in damage waves. Your raid should try and move to avoid standing in these. (Everyone moves)

Saint Olms the Just

1. 90/50/25% - Boss leaps four times. Hug the walls and block/shield, use your heals as neccesary.
2. Boss leaps into the air - Move in a straight line away from allies. Shield if you are magicka. Keep moving until the lightning orbs stop flying.
3. Dwemer sentinal spawns - Focus it down quickly. Keep your ground AoE's on the boss and kill it with spammables
4. Never stand in front of the boss as a DPS or Healer,
5. Tank needs to move to the side to avoid the breath
6. In execute phase, get towards the edge of the flame bursts and burn as heavily as you can while the flame bursts are up.
7. Gently strafe away from the spiders. They are harmless.
8. If healer, slot rapid regen/mutagen. Springs is useless in this fight.

sevomd69

Mettaricana wrote: »

Off topic but how hard is nAS i would like atleast imperfect weapons 2hander

20 minutes at most on normal with a PUG have run it about 6-7 times... I have the infused Lightning, Inferno and Ice, Infused Greatsword, and Mace and Board (forget the traits)...some pick up some traded...

I found that most players even in a pug are more than happy to give away drops...I've given away the bow and DW...

Morvane

install loot log addon and stop crying pls

Ch4mpTW

Morvane wrote: »

install loot log addon and stop crying pls

I’m not on PC/Mac, so I can’t cheese the game with add-ons. Nice try, however.

Merlin13KAGL

You're after Fire or Lightning, I gather?

Ch4mpTW

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

You're after Fire or Lightning, I gather?

@Merlin13KAGL Yes sir. That is correct. But, the game keeps on insisting that I need to either be a healer or stamina PvP’er.

I’ll be honest with you. Completely honest in fact. Although I have stamina characters, I don’t really care too much about the playstyle (of stamina builds). I’ve always been a fan of magicka-based builds and playstyles. And that is across pretty much every RPG I’ve touched that provided the option. I’ve always preferred the: Caster, mage, wizard, etc. And then after mastering them, would move on to more melee-based builds.

Sigh...

It’s to the point that, if I could give away every single stamina-based piece of sought after gear I have to have strictly magicka-based pieces drop? I would. I’m talking about giving alway my: Gold Alkosh jewelry, gold Twice-Fang jewelry, gold Vicious jewelry, gold Maelstrom weapons in all traits, master and asylum weapons in sought after traits, etc. I’d do it in an instant. I’d give it all up, just so that I could have exclusively magicka stuff drop. Pathetic? Probably. But, I’m just being honest. Give up every tempering alloy I have, and so on.

Merlin13KAGL

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

You're after Fire or Lightning, I gather?

@Merlin13KAGL Yes sir. That is correct. But, the game keeps on insisting that I need to either be a healer or stamina PvP’er.

I, too, am in stam drop hell, if it makes you feel any better.

KingMagaw

Easily 500+ VMA clears, stopped counting long time ago, no lightening or inferno staff, in any trait )


RNG has been altered too greatly in ESO for it to ever be called RNG.

Jaimeh

I have two inferno staves from the handful of times I participated in the trial, and I noticed that in each of these runs, a few others have gotten lightning or fire staves as well. I know drops are random, but at least on normal mode it's a pretty fast trial to clear, so it's not very painful to farm it if you are after the weapons.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Jaimeh wrote: »

I have two inferno staves from the handful of times I participated in the trial, and I noticed that in each of these runs, a few others have gotten lightning or fire staves as well. I know drops are random, but at least on normal mode it's a pretty fast trial to clear, so it's not very painful to farm it if you are after the weapons.

the imperfect destro staff is worse then a charged staff of the same type, so there is little reason to have one. at least with a charged staff, it buff ALL your skills chances to get status effect chances too, not just 1 skill, once every 3 casts.

Ch4mpTW

KingMagaw wrote: »

Easily 500+ VMA clears, stopped counting long time ago, no lightening or inferno staff, in any trait )


RNG has been altered too greatly in ESO for it to ever be called RNG.

Wow, I didn’t know that was even possible. I apologize to hear that.

Jaimeh wrote: »

I have two inferno staves from the handful of times I participated in the trial, and I noticed that in each of these runs, a few others have gotten lightning or fire staves as well. I know drops are random, but at least on normal mode it's a pretty fast trial to clear, so it's not very painful to farm it if you are after the weapons.

That is true, only if you’re lucky enough for 2 very important things to happen. The first is, you are lucky enough to get invited to a group that is running it. And 2, that the group is remotely decent. In just about every run that I’ve done, the group is always explaining the mechanics to new players. All the while the majority of the people in the group aren’t setup properly for trials. I’m talking double bow bow build users, people fully spec’d for PvP DPS, healers not utilizing Elemental Drain, etc. This all results in 30min. or longer runs.

nnargun

KingMagaw wrote: »

Easily 500+ VMA clears, stopped counting long time ago, no lightening or inferno staff, in any trait )


RNG has been altered too greatly in ESO for it to ever be called RNG.

I find that very hard to believe if the drop rates are not wayyyy lower for lightning and inferno staves compared to the other stuff. We've been talking about these chances in another thread a couple of days ago and I was pretty impressed already that the OP there didn't get either of the staves in 100 runs. 500 runs, however, seems extremely unlikely. It's possible of course but chances are like 1 in 1.5E+27. That's more than we are suspected to have stars in the universe.
So either drop rates are way off or you guys exaggerate the total number of runs (edit:) immensely.

Nighn_9

I've got 2 sharpened lightning and 1 nirnhoned lightning vma staffs.. though i never did get lucky enough to get a sharp inferno

Ch4mpTW

nnargun wrote: »

KingMagaw wrote: »

Easily 500+ VMA clears, stopped counting long time ago, no lightening or inferno staff, in any trait )


RNG has been altered too greatly in ESO for it to ever be called RNG.

I find that very hard to believe if the drop rates are not wayyyy lower for lightning and inferno staves compared to the other stuff. We've been talking about these chances in another thread a couple of days ago and I was pretty impressed already that the OP there didn't get either of the staves in 100 runs. 500 runs, however, seems extremely unlikely. It's possible of course but chances are like 1 in 1.5E+27. That's more than we are suspected to have stars in the universe.
So either drop rates are way off or you guys exaggerate the total number of runs (edit:) immensely.

You are fully aware that there are people who’ve documented doing 1k+ runs without receiving a single sharpened inferno staff, yes? There are myriads of threads about people’s RNG experiences. Tons of them. Especially regarding VMA. In fact, I have had such bad luck in VMA that during the last Orsinium anniversary event, I received double S&B two or more times.

nnargun

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

nnargun wrote: »

KingMagaw wrote: »

Easily 500+ VMA clears, stopped counting long time ago, no lightening or inferno staff, in any trait )


RNG has been altered too greatly in ESO for it to ever be called RNG.

I find that very hard to believe if the drop rates are not wayyyy lower for lightning and inferno staves compared to the other stuff. We've been talking about these chances in another thread a couple of days ago and I was pretty impressed already that the OP there didn't get either of the staves in 100 runs. 500 runs, however, seems extremely unlikely. It's possible of course but chances are like 1 in 1.5E+27. That's more than we are suspected to have stars in the universe.
So either drop rates are way off or you guys exaggerate the total number of runs (edit:) immensely.

You are fully aware that there are people who’ve documented doing 1k+ runs without receiving a single sharpened inferno staff, yes? There are myriads of threads about people’s RNG experiences. Tons of them. Especially regarding VMA. In fact, I have had such bad luck in VMA that during the last Orsinium anniversary event, I received double S&B two or more times.

The chances not to get a sharpened inferno in 1000 runs are only 1:700 assuming equal drop rates. Bit of a difference.

Ch4mpTW

nnargun wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

nnargun wrote: »

KingMagaw wrote: »

Easily 500+ VMA clears, stopped counting long time ago, no lightening or inferno staff, in any trait )


RNG has been altered too greatly in ESO for it to ever be called RNG.

I find that very hard to believe if the drop rates are not wayyyy lower for lightning and inferno staves compared to the other stuff. We've been talking about these chances in another thread a couple of days ago and I was pretty impressed already that the OP there didn't get either of the staves in 100 runs. 500 runs, however, seems extremely unlikely. It's possible of course but chances are like 1 in 1.5E+27. That's more than we are suspected to have stars in the universe.
So either drop rates are way off or you guys exaggerate the total number of runs (edit:) immensely.

You are fully aware that there are people who’ve documented doing 1k+ runs without receiving a single sharpened inferno staff, yes? There are myriads of threads about people’s RNG experiences. Tons of them. Especially regarding VMA. In fact, I have had such bad luck in VMA that during the last Orsinium anniversary event, I received double S&B two or more times.

The chances not to get a sharpened inferno in 1000 runs are only 1:700 assuming equal drop rates. Bit of a difference.

That screen shot alone proves your point about unlikely RNG moot. What I just posted should not exist. At all. Unless if the loot tables were weighted in some form or fashion.

Ready for the kicker...? ZOS has been documented a few times saying that the drop-rates for both inferno staves and lightning staves are lower than other weapons. Especially when it comes to dungeons and trials. Go dig around the forums and see for yourself. It isn’t just tied to AS. It’s not even tied to only VMA. Have you ever heard about the legendary grinds for Master Inferno Staffs? The mythical Burning Spellweave Inferno Staff grind? And so on. It’s all very well documented. Lots of threads about it all. Just look it up.

Danksta

3 clears. 1 sharpened lightning, 1 precise lightning and 1 precise sword with a sturdy shield.

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Do not cry for Asylum destro normal version is poor and not worth dropping monster set item or 5th piece set item.

Don't need to drop a 5 piece or monster set, just simply drop 4 piece MD/IA down to 3 piece.

nnargun

I know the discussions about RNG and most things are in line with my maths. This, however, would require the staves to have drop rates at least 5-6 times lower than the other weapons to be reasonably believable. And it would still be unlikely and also VERY unfair for people trying to get them. I just don't believe it.

DisgracefulMind

It's not like it's hard to clear normal. Takes like 10 minutes with a group of 6. There really shouldn't be any complaining at this point lol.

Lexxypwns

Vapirko wrote: »

50 crystals is sooo harrrrdddd, it takes months. (Shhh say it’s hard or zos will nerf the drop rate).

bro, I've been farming nonstop and I haven't even gotten 1 crystal!!!!!1111

its too hard

Recremen

jabrone77 wrote: »

I've only had the chance to run it 6 or 7 times, but I have only seen the Asylum one hand sword and mace.
I play Magicka sorcerer and need the lightning staff....

Recremen wrote: »

Does your group not trade items amongst themselves as needed? Sure you might not have gotten the right gear piece, but did NOBODY get the right gear piece??

The groups I've been with I have offered to trade freely. However, I've seen the staff drop twice and had those two players turn around and try to sell me the staff for a crazy amount of gold. One of those guys I had just given the sword to for free...he or she then asked for a ton of gold for the staff. That's thier right, I guess....but people, eh?

Uuuuugh that's so gross. I guess that's the risk of pugging it, I should count my blessings that my guild is in it for each other.

Rohamad_Ali

I wish you luck my friend . RNG is always a hit and miss system no matter how ther adjust the odds . A token system would be better but instead we got a retrait system in another layer of RNG . It's all designed to trick the reward center of your brain cavity to keep playing . The only way to win is unplug or keep up the fight . I suggest unplugging until you recover from caring as much . That's what I do . I don't get trapped in these RNG circles for bis gear .

Emmagoldman

500 runs or 50 gems........

Deciding between the two seems pretty easy