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25 Asylum Clears...

Ch4mpTW
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And literally 15 restoration staffs, 3 ice staves, 2 two-handers, and 2 S&Bs... Oh, and 3 of the DW combos. The chaos whirlwind set or whatever. It seems the bs follows me even in AS from VMA. . .

...

Speaking of VMA, I have still yet to receive a sharpened lightning staff or sharpened or precise inferno staff. Between 500 and 700 clears. Possibly more than 700. I don’t known I have lost count.

You may have introduced a re-trait system which is nice somewhat (50 damn crystals is far too many btw), but you still have yet to learn the basics of “smart loot” in any kind. :|

Edit: I forgot to list the DW things I’ve received.
Edited by Ch4mpTW on November 10, 2017 6:13AM
  • Cadbury
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    Ouch XD

    Personally, the only one I'm interested in is the 2 hander.
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    Ouch XD

    Personally, the only one I'm interested in is the 2 hander.

    I have both the greatsword infused, and the maul infused. Got them back after back, and I don’t even PvP. So, they’ll be sitting in my bank collecting dust with my collection of Maelstrom two-handers. ._.
  • LordGavus
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    You must have offended RNGeesus.
  • MaddPowered
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    [Snip].

    And 50 gems is not enough. Gems are easy to get.

    [Edited to remove baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on November 10, 2017 3:18PM
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  • jaschacasadiob16_ESO
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    And literally 15 restoration staffs, 3 ice staves, 2 two-handers, and 2 S&Bs... Oh, and 3 of the DW combos. The chaos whirlwind set or whatever. It seems the bs follows me even in AS from VMA. . .

    Speaking of VMA, I have still yet to receive a sharpened lightning staff or sharpened or precise inferno staff. Between 500 and 700 clears. Possibly more than 700. I don’t known I have lost count.

    You may have introduced a re-trait system which is nice somewhat (50 damn crystals is far too many btw), but you still have yet to learn the basics of “smart loot” in any kind. :|

    Edit: I forgot to list the DW things I’ve received.
    First run infused lightning staff.

    That being said, what would keep you coming back and playing for hours if:
    • Loot was smart as you say (smart = what you want, quick).
    • Changing traits were cheap.

    You should really read a book about the basics of game designing and players retention.
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  • nnargun
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    Why do you guys think 50 crystals are too many? Have read that a few times now but I actually think it's quite cheap (not to say ridiculously cheap). The effort and time it takes to get 50 crystals is a joke compared to the number of runs you need on average to get the right trait on the right weapon (153 to keep it simple). Especially for people who literally need hours for one run.

    Also you get crystals just by playing the regular daily/weekly content so eventually you will have enough to transmute. With vMA you might very well never get the weapon you want. Sure, a smart loot system would be nice but actually it's not really needed anymore now. I assume this was just easier to program and balance.
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  • Vapirko
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    50 crystals is sooo harrrrdddd, it takes months. (Shhh say it’s hard or zos will nerf the drop rate).
  • WildWilbur
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    50 crystals is sooo harrrrdddd, it takes months. (Shhh say it’s hard or zos will nerf the drop rate).

    It's hard!
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  • Aliyavana
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    [Snip].

    And 50 gems is not enough. Gems are easy to get.

    Found the pvper and the white knight

    [Edited for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on November 10, 2017 3:19PM
  • Feanor
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    [Snip].

    And 50 gems is not enough. Gems are easy to get.

    So when can I turn my ice Staff into a lightning one with these 50 crystals? Your post completely missed the point. But at least you insulted another player, that way your post passes 50% of the prerequisites for any forum post on here.

    [Edited for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on November 10, 2017 3:19PM
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  • nnargun
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    How easy exactly should it be to get BiS gear you think? Maybe NPC vendors should offer them for the symbolic amount of 1 gold or something?
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    the Kuhn - Dunmer - MagNB
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    Son Hala - Altmer - MagSorc
    Draxyl - Argonian - Warden
  • ArchMikem
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    [Snip].

    And 50 gems is not enough. Gems are easy to get.

    Ooooh, someones a bad ass here. Watch out OP.

    [Edited for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on November 10, 2017 3:19PM
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  • Feanor
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    nnargun wrote: »
    How easy exactly should it be to get BiS gear you think? Maybe NPC vendors should offer them for the symbolic amount of 1 gold or something?

    That’s exactly the point. RNG has nothing to do with difficulty.
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    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • Oakmontowls_ESO
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    Honestly smart loot has nothing to do with the OP's problem. Now if you were complaining about fire staves of the eternal youkudan or Bows of Burning spellweave that would be a different story all together. What OP wants is a token system in order to put a cap on the amount of runs needed to insure that you get a particular item.
  • Recremen
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    Does your group not trade items amongst themselves as needed? Sure you might not have gotten the right gear piece, but did NOBODY get the right gear piece??
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  • Feanor
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    Honestly smart loot has nothing to do with the OP's problem. Now if you were complaining about fire staves of the eternal youkudan or Bows of Burning spellweave that would be a different story all together. What OP wants is a token system in order to put a cap on the amount of runs needed to insure that you get a particular item.

    It gets even better. Restoration staves of the Unfathomable Darkness.
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    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Feanor wrote: »
    [Snip].

    And 50 gems is not enough. Gems are easy to get.

    So when can I turn my ice Staff into a lightning one with these 50 crystals? Your post completely missed the point. But at least you insulted another player, that way your post passes 50% of the prerequisites for any forum post on here.
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    No one cares about your whining, stop making stupid posts its getting tiring.

    And 50 gems is not enough. Gems are easy to get.

    Ooooh, someones a bad ass here. Watch out OP.

    At this point, I’m not even phased by these types of people on the Internet. Keyboard thugs who will go out of their way to attempt to belittle folks over the Internet already have miserable existences as is, so why feed them by acknowledging them? I just report them, and let the staff deal with them. Lol. Thanks for noticing their poor behavior, however.

    [Edited for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on November 10, 2017 3:20PM
  • nnargun
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    Feanor wrote: »
    nnargun wrote: »
    How easy exactly should it be to get BiS gear you think? Maybe NPC vendors should offer them for the symbolic amount of 1 gold or something?

    That’s exactly the point. RNG has nothing to do with difficulty.

    That's not my point though. We were talking about crystals and how 50 are still too many for some. And for the difficulty matter: I do actually think it's quite difficult to motivate yourself to run the same content over and over to get your stuff. Not saying it's fun but it's certainly difficult imho. Now you have to run it less thanks to the crystals (9 times less!). While I appreciate that, I do not think that one vMA run should be enough to get your BiS weapon (which would be the case if you could transmute weapon types). It still takes some dedication and I think it should.
    Edited by nnargun on November 10, 2017 8:27AM
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    Samjuel-EL - Orc - StamNB
    Son Hala - Altmer - MagSorc
    Draxyl - Argonian - Warden
  • jaschacasadiob16_ESO
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    Recremen wrote: »
    Does your group not trade items amongst themselves as needed? Sure you might not have gotten the right gear piece, but did NOBODY get the right gear piece??
    That requires interacting with other human beings.
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  • Turelus
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    Roll 15 healers, problem solved! :tongue:

    So far I have a bow and two maces from my two runs on Monday.
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  • Kel
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    I've only had the chance to run it 6 or 7 times, but I have only seen the Asylum one hand sword and mace.
    I play Magicka sorcerer and need the lightning staff....

    Recremen wrote: »
    Does your group not trade items amongst themselves as needed? Sure you might not have gotten the right gear piece, but did NOBODY get the right gear piece??

    The groups I've been with I have offered to trade freely. However, I've seen the staff drop twice and had those two players turn around and try to sell me the staff for a crazy amount of gold. One of those guys I had just given the sword to for free...he or she then asked for a ton of gold for the staff. That's thier right, I guess....but people, eh?

    Edited by Kel on November 10, 2017 9:09AM
  • Khenarthi
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    I got a sharpened lightning staff on my second nAS run. It's all about rng, I migth have used up all my luck for the next 6 months.
    Edited by Khenarthi on November 10, 2017 9:45AM
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  • pod88kk
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    And literally 15 restoration staffs, 3 ice staves, 2 two-handers, and 2 S&Bs... Oh, and 3 of the DW combos. The chaos whirlwind set or whatever. It seems the bs follows me even in AS from VMA. . .

    ...

    Speaking of VMA, I have still yet to receive a sharpened lightning staff or sharpened or precise inferno staff. Between 500 and 700 clears. Possibly more than 700. I don’t known I have lost count.

    You may have introduced a re-trait system which is nice somewhat (50 damn crystals is far too many btw), but you still have yet to learn the basics of “smart loot” in any kind. :|

    Edit: I forgot to list the DW things I’ve received.

    Took me a day to get 50 crystals for a retrait
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    pod88kk wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    And literally 15 restoration staffs, 3 ice staves, 2 two-handers, and 2 S&Bs... Oh, and 3 of the DW combos. The chaos whirlwind set or whatever. It seems the bs follows me even in AS from VMA. . .

    ...

    Speaking of VMA, I have still yet to receive a sharpened lightning staff or sharpened or precise inferno staff. Between 500 and 700 clears. Possibly more than 700. I don’t known I have lost count.

    You may have introduced a re-trait system which is nice somewhat (50 damn crystals is far too many btw), but you still have yet to learn the basics of “smart loot” in any kind. :|

    Edit: I forgot to list the DW things I’ve received.

    Took me a day to get 50 crystals for a retrait

    Umm... That’s fantastic. Keep up the good work. For others however (like myself), it takes a bit longer. Especially with PvP being the current mess it is (even though I’m not too much of a PvP’er, I planned on using it to farm crystals).
  • Flameheart
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    50 crystals is sooo harrrrdddd, it takes months. (Shhh say it’s hard or zos will nerf the drop rate).

    It's soo hard.
    Sometimes the prey turns and nips us... it's a small thing.

    So let the snow flakes and unicorns dance alone until they melt or vanish from existence, we will finish up with those smart enough to stay in the glowing circle of love.

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  • FloppyTouch
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    Flameheart wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    50 crystals is sooo harrrrdddd, it takes months. (Shhh say it’s hard or zos will nerf the drop rate).

    It's soo hard.

    That’s wat she said
  • nnargun
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    pod88kk wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    And literally 15 restoration staffs, 3 ice staves, 2 two-handers, and 2 S&Bs... Oh, and 3 of the DW combos. The chaos whirlwind set or whatever. It seems the bs follows me even in AS from VMA. . .

    ...

    Speaking of VMA, I have still yet to receive a sharpened lightning staff or sharpened or precise inferno staff. Between 500 and 700 clears. Possibly more than 700. I don’t known I have lost count.

    You may have introduced a re-trait system which is nice somewhat (50 damn crystals is far too many btw), but you still have yet to learn the basics of “smart loot” in any kind. :|

    Edit: I forgot to list the DW things I’ve received.

    Took me a day to get 50 crystals for a retrait

    Umm... That’s fantastic. Keep up the good work. For others however (like myself), it takes a bit longer. Especially with PvP being the current mess it is (even though I’m not too much of a PvP’er, I planned on using it to farm crystals).

    I also didn't like the whining post (#5) but now you're overdoing it.
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    Flawless Conquerer - vHoF HM - vAS+1 - vMoL - vCR
    the Kuhn - Dunmer - MagNB
    Samjuel-EL - Orc - StamNB
    Son Hala - Altmer - MagSorc
    Draxyl - Argonian - Warden
  • pod88kk
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    Pvp is how I got mine mate. Got the first rewards of the worthy on 1 character then logged on and did it on the next(all my characters are pve) I just did it by capturing resources and joining zergs capping keeps.
    I get what you mean though I had lots of infinite load screens and had to relog/delete saved data on my Xbox but it is doable.
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Do not cry for Asylum destro normal version is poor and not worth dropping monster set item or 5th piece set item.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Do not cry for Asylum destro normal version is poor and not worth dropping monster set item or 5th piece set item.

    Word?! :o
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