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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Telvanni Master Wizard costume dyeing

Dymence
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It's a nice costume. But I have one gripe with it.

Why are the red trims on the armor completely undyable? It makes a lot of colors you put on it simply look out of place.

Would be great if this could be looked at.

EDIT: Some pics to illustrate the point:

Default:
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Full white:
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Full blue:
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Full gold:
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You get the point.... It dyes pretty well, but those red trims....
Edited by Dymence on November 9, 2017 3:53PM
  • Turelus
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    Damn, I didn't want to read this.

    I was really hoping to go with dark steel armour, red cloth, gold trim. :cry:
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  • Enslaved
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    2k for a costume that cannot be dyed as we want. Why Zos?
  • Zaldan
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    up to their usual standard then
    Edited by Zaldan on November 9, 2017 3:46PM
    Dovie'andi se tovya sagain.
    Niidro tiid wah fusvok dirkah.

    aka.@Cuthceol
  • Dymence
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    Updated with pics on the OP
  • Turelus
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    Dymence wrote: »
    Updated with pics on the OP
    Awesome, thank you so much!
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  • Electrone_Magnus
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    I have the same issue it has the red trims and the color combinations are limited to some extent. Also it makes my character look fat for some reason.
  • Mauin
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    I love the design of this outfit, but the fact that the red trim and the chain on the skirt part can't be dyed is rather disappointing. I would have liked to changed the color of those parts, but instead I'm stuck with red trim and silver chain.

    Also, the outfit seems to have some built in magical chest enhancements for female characters. I've noticed most of my female characters get bigger in the chest area when they put this on. I get shoulder/back pain looking at my poor Bosmer lady.

    Edit: It really just doesn't fit the female body mesh at all. Looks huge on all my female characters, and all attempts at dyeing it are just making me regret buying it. Blacks look grey, browns looked pale bordering on grey, and none of my color schemes seem to be working.
    Here's Thalmor Black, as an example:
    ivEhgde.pngColdharbour Ash is darker, but still grey compared to how it looks on other costumes and armors.
    Edited by Mauin on November 9, 2017 4:18PM
  • red_emu
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    Mauin wrote: »
    I love the design of this outfit, but the fact that the red trim and the chain on the skirt part can't be dyed is rather disappointing. I would have liked to changed the color of those parts, but instead I'm stuck with red trim and silver chain.

    Also, the outfit seems to have some built in magical chest enhancements for female characters. I've noticed most of my female characters get bigger in the chest area when they put this on. I get shoulder/back pain looking at my poor Bosmer lady.

    Edit: It really just doesn't fit the female body mesh at all. Looks huge on all my female characters, and all attempts at dyeing it are just making me regret buying it. Blacks look grey, browns looked pale bordering on grey, and none of my color schemes seem to be working.
    Here's Thalmor Black, as an example:
    ivEhgde.pngColdharbour Ash is darker, but still grey compared to how it looks on other costumes and armors.

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  • Marabornwingrion
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    I'm more worried about how *** it looks on female characters.

    PIES12u.jpg

    ZOS completely [snip] up chest piece. In this costume my dunmer looks like she had a boob surgery.
    Her boobs are much bigger and have weird shape, wtf?
    Also these huge hip pads, it looks ridiculous on tiny and skinny characters like mine.


    And ZOS wants 2k crowns for this? It's price of DLC.
    No, thank you.

    [Edited to remove profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on January 31, 2018 2:13PM
  • Elsonso
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    :trollface:

    Not sure what people expected for only 2000 Crowns. I like the red trim, but the female verion isn't good. Reminds me a bit of a Madonna costume.
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  • Mauin
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    Astrid_V wrote: »
    I'm more worried about how *** it looks on female characters.
    ZOS completely [snip] up chest piece. In this costume my dunmer looks like she had a boob surgery.
    Her boobs are much bigger and have weird shape, wtf?
    Also these huge hip pads, it looks ridiculous on tiny and skinny characters like mine.


    And ZOS wants 2k crowns for this? It's price of DLC.
    No, thank you.

    Yep. That was the first thing I noticed when I tried it on.

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    My poor Bosmer got even bigger.
    I very much regret buying this.

    [Edited for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on January 31, 2018 2:14PM
  • Krainor1974
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    They would never fix it as will most problems we complain about.
  • LukosCreyden
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    Dang, I was looking forward to this. First proper armor costume we've had in the crown store in ages. Guess I shall wait until another one.
    Struggling to find a new class to call home.Please send help.
  • BigBadVolk
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    also Legate BLACK is f wording Legate GRAY, so some colors apply awfully to this armor
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  • Stonyfoot
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    Wow, I'm glad I read this thread before buying it.
  • eklhaftb16_ESO
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    I don't really mind the bulky look, after all, it is a plate armor and those aren't supposed to make you look slim. But really, that's some rather lazy dying for such a pricey costume.
  • Zaldan
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    ZO$ cannot be bothered designing armour for two models so everything is made to fit male then stretched using morph targets to fit female model, or not as the case is here lol
    Dovie'andi se tovya sagain.
    Niidro tiid wah fusvok dirkah.

    aka.@Cuthceol
  • xSkullfox
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    Astrid_V wrote: »
    I'm more worried about how *** it looks on female characters.

    PIES12u.jpg

    ZOS completely [snip] up chest piece. In this costume my dunmer looks like she had a boob surgery.
    Her boobs are much bigger and have weird shape, wtf?
    Also these huge hip pads, it looks ridiculous on tiny and skinny characters like mine.


    And ZOS wants 2k crowns for this? It's price of DLC.
    No, thank you.

    Looks like someone from the devteam like big boobs...

    [Edited for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on January 31, 2018 2:14PM
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  • Aliyavana
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    Astrid_V wrote: »
    I'm more worried about how *** it looks on female characters.

    PIES12u.jpg

    ZOS completely [snip] up chest piece. In this costume my dunmer looks like she had a boob surgery.
    Her boobs are much bigger and have weird shape, wtf?
    Also these huge hip pads, it looks ridiculous on tiny and skinny characters like mine.


    And ZOS wants 2k crowns for this? It's price of DLC.
    No, thank you.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/380038/guide-how-to-make-your-own-telvanni-master-wizard-outfit-that-dyes-well-without-paying-2k-crowns#latest

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    Edited by ZOS_KatP on January 31, 2018 2:14PM
  • Dymence
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    aliyavana wrote: »
    Astrid_V wrote: »
    I'm more worried about how *** it looks on female characters.

    PIES12u.jpg

    ZOS completely [snip] up chest piece. In this costume my dunmer looks like she had a boob surgery.
    Her boobs are much bigger and have weird shape, wtf?
    Also these huge hip pads, it looks ridiculous on tiny and skinny characters like mine.


    And ZOS wants 2k crowns for this? It's price of DLC.
    No, thank you.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/380038/guide-how-to-make-your-own-telvanni-master-wizard-outfit-that-dyes-well-without-paying-2k-crowns#latest

    Doesn't really solve the problem though, maybe for roleplayers. The whole point of costumes is being able to look awesome and wearing a proper gear setup at the same time.

    Maybe when transmog comes.

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    Edited by ZOS_KatP on January 31, 2018 2:15PM
  • LordGavus
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    Dissapointing to see this costume doesn't dye well. Seems to be an issue with a lot of costumes. Also not keen on the non dyeing bits.

    It should still work well for my main but doesn't look like it will work for my small bosmer lady.
    The red tips won't work with her white and blue theme either.
  • Mojmir
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    More like dying, lol. Haven't seen many purchase this
  • ninjaguyman
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    @Dymence what exactly is the dye name for the blue dye pic? most of the blues i've put on seem really bright looking
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  • Stonyfoot
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    Does this dye dark metallic (like obsidian black usually does with metal armor) with any color?
  • coplannb16_ESO
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    As I wrote in the other thread:

    the dying capabilities are really bad. The main armor-parts dye ok with bright colors like yellow/gold, but everything else ends up too weak and/or tooo bright (even coldharbour-black looks more like silver/white, pact-blood-red looks like pink). This should be fixed for 2000 Crowns custome.

    Also yes: the red parts should be dyeable.
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  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    If I knew how bad it takes dyes I wouldn't have bought this. Should have looked here earlier, my mistake. However, on a male character the costume looks quite nice. But for that price they should make effort to be worth it. Disappointed Chilly is disappointed.

    E: especially bad is the middle slot. The skirt has some coloured lines on it on default. If you use dye on it, the lines will take the same colour as the skirt.
    Edited by Chilly-McFreeze on November 10, 2017 9:03AM
  • FlamingBeard
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    If they made the red trim dyeable, I could get over the armor plating’s mediocre dyeing.
  • Tyrion87
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    @Dymence Could you say what are the names of gold and blue dyes you used?

    I tried everything and I gave up. The costume simply can't be dyed well. The dyes look different when applied on the costume and these red trims significantly reduce dyeing possibilities. The only good looking version atm is the default one... :(

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Could you guys fix it, please? It's a 2k crowns costume, you know...
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Yep, please fix this. Better yet, try out the dyeing functionality before release or - workload option: give either 30 min refund options or a possibility to dye in CS preview.
    I mean, a happy costumer is a paying costumer. So there's no reason to cash grab with half working items, at least on the long run.
    Edited by Chilly-McFreeze on November 10, 2017 11:34AM
  • red_emu
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    I love how everyone is asking for this to be fixed :lol:

    Maybe... possibly... no ETA
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    Falathren - AD StamSorc
    Falathren Eryndaer - AD StamDen
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    Talagan Falathren - AD StamDK
    Falathren Infernis - AD MagDK
    Your-Ex - AD MagBlade
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