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Cyrodiil 20% performance improvement
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Rainraven✭✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »The fact that it's been this bad for so long leads me to believe that either they lack the capability to fix Cyrodiil or lack the motivation to do so. As much as those of us who like PvP deny it, PvP in this game is a niche activity. People going into Cyrodiil doesn't make them any extra revenue. The revenue comes from the hoards of casual PvE players who run around doing quests and buy costumes from the crown store and gamble boxes to try and get those special mounts. I would love to be proven wrong.
I love Cyrodiil and I buy all kinds of pointless decorative in-game crap. I'm not sure that argument - which I see a lot - is really true.
"Lack the capability" might be, though. They leave a lot of things broken, it's hard to believe anybody could be that apathetic about their own product. Remember when Mutagen didn't hit the same two people in a group of 12 over and over again? Over a year since that broke, now it's a feature I guess. So many things like that.2 -
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✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »The fact that it's been this bad for so long leads me to believe that either they lack the capability to fix Cyrodiil or lack the motivation to do so. As much as those of us who like PvP deny it, PvP in this game is a niche activity. People going into Cyrodiil doesn't make them any extra revenue. The revenue comes from the hoards of casual PvE players who run around doing quests and buy costumes from the crown store and gamble boxes to try and get those special mounts. I would love to be proven wrong.
I love Cyrodiil and I buy all kinds of pointless decorative in-game crap. I'm not sure that argument - which I see a lot - is really true.
"Lack the capability" might be, though. They leave a lot of things broken, it's hard to believe anybody could be that apathetic about their own product. Remember when Mutagen didn't hit the same two people in a group of 12 over and over again? Over a year since that broke, now it's a feature I guess. So many things like that.
Willing to admit I might be wrong on first part
That second part you mentioned I think I'm dead on.0 -
Palidon✭✭✭✭✭
✭It boils down to False Promises. They Say they are going to fix things to keep PvP players in the game. Ask yourself how many times have you heard ZOS say they are going to improve Cyro game performance? Then ask yourself if anything has improved?. Or has it just got worse?5 -
Maikon✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »Out of interest, as a non-PvPer, do you never see PvPers in Cyrodiil in costumes or riding special mounts?
My overarching point was more that Cyrodiil itself makes them no extra revenue so they have no incentive to fix it. RPer's who are typically PvE players are the biggest purchasers of these things however.
Makes them no revenue? I'm a PvP'er through and through, and I bet I spend far more money on crowns then anyone else in this game. Just because we pvp doesn't mean when don't spend.0 -
Ladislao✭✭✭✭✭Perhaps I will express an unpopular opinion, but the performance in Cyrodiil really gets better every patch. Less spikes and loadscreens, more stable FPS. And this is true both for owners of weak PCs (like me), and for owners of powerful machines (my friends).
It feels like some people expect that a single patch will immediately remove all lags and give stable 100 FPS.Everything is viable3 -
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✭✭✭tinythinker wrote: »
Yes, especially when you are in a large group. That seems to make the long load screens start sooner.
I have been in large groups, or 2 large groups sometimes and had AvAvA and there was hardly loading screens for me. And then sometimes itll be smallscale ava and there will be 5 minute loading screens. There is no rhyme or reason tbh.0 -
Rainraven✭✭✭✭✭Perhaps I will express an unpopular opinion, but the performance in Cyrodiil really gets better every patch. Less spikes and loadscreens, more stable FPS. And this is true both for owners of weak PCs (like me), and for owners of powerful machines (my friends).
It feels like some people expect that a single patch will immediately remove all lags and give stable 100 FPS.
I agree, it really has improved this year. I haven't noticed anything amazing since the most recent update, but I did notice we skipped the usual week of really terrible performance we usually get with a big update, and that's something!0 -
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✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »Out of interest, as a non-PvPer, do you never see PvPers in Cyrodiil in costumes or riding special mounts?
My overarching point was more that Cyrodiil itself makes them no extra revenue so they have no incentive to fix it. RPer's who are typically PvE players are the biggest purchasers of these things however.
Makes them no revenue? I'm a PvP'er through and through, and I bet I spend far more money on crowns then anyone else in this game. Just because we pvp doesn't mean when don't spend.
Congrats you spend lots of money on virtual things.
Spending money on crowns does not require you to PvP.
I do not understand the point of your continued quotes of my post. Unless you are trying to argue that performance in Cyrodiil is actually good...0 -
Docmandu✭✭✭✭✭
✭It feels like some people expect that a single patch will immediately remove all lags and give stable 100 FPS.
I'd agree.. if we weren't 50+ patches in since they said they were going to look at Cyrodiil performance. Then again.. they probably looked and then said, screw it.. this sh.t is too hard.3 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Perhaps I will express an unpopular opinion, but the performance in Cyrodiil really gets better every patch. Less spikes and loadscreens, more stable FPS. And this is true both for owners of weak PCs (like me), and for owners of powerful machines (my friends).
It feels like some people expect that a single patch will immediately remove all lags and give stable 100 FPS.
It has not gotten better every patch on Xbox. I don't expect one patch to immediately make it run as it should, however, some minor incremental progress would be nice.0 -
Maikon✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Out of interest, as a non-PvPer, do you never see PvPers in Cyrodiil in costumes or riding special mounts?
My overarching point was more that Cyrodiil itself makes them no extra revenue so they have no incentive to fix it. RPer's who are typically PvE players are the biggest purchasers of these things however.
Makes them no revenue? I'm a PvP'er through and through, and I bet I spend far more money on crowns then anyone else in this game. Just because we pvp doesn't mean when don't spend.
Congrats you spend lots of money on virtual things.
Spending money on crowns does not require you to PvP.
I do not understand the point of your continued quotes of my post. Unless you are trying to argue that performance in Cyrodiil is actually good...
First off, that was my first post in this thread, so you saying I've made continuous quotes of your post is false.
Secondly, you stated that cyro itself makes them no revenue, which is why they have no incentive to fix it, which is also a false statement.
The main reason they don't fix it is because they have to deal with the constant crying for nerfs, the constant crying about miats, and the overall general crying from pve'ers.Edited by Maikon on November 5, 2017 8:09PM1 -
HoloYoitsu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭For all the load screen posts:
The infinite old screen on transit happens if anyone in your group is invisible to you. That same bug also gives you infinite load screens when things like keep flip/repair cause a load screen. The way to fix this is you have to move out of render range of each other then come back and they should be visible. This tends to happen if you form group with ppl who aren't already in your render range.Edited by HoloYoitsu on November 5, 2017 9:54PM1 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Out of interest, as a non-PvPer, do you never see PvPers in Cyrodiil in costumes or riding special mounts?
My overarching point was more that Cyrodiil itself makes them no extra revenue so they have no incentive to fix it. RPer's who are typically PvE players are the biggest purchasers of these things however.
Makes them no revenue? I'm a PvP'er through and through, and I bet I spend far more money on crowns then anyone else in this game. Just because we pvp doesn't mean when don't spend.
Congrats you spend lots of money on virtual things.
Spending money on crowns does not require you to PvP.
I do not understand the point of your continued quotes of my post. Unless you are trying to argue that performance in Cyrodiil is actually good...
First off, that was my first post in this thread, so you saying I've made continuous quotes of your post is false.
Secondly, you stated that cyro itself makes them no revenue, which is why they have no incentive to fix it, which is also a false statement.
The main reason they don't fix it is because they have to deal with the constant crying for nerfs, the constant crying about miats, and the overall general crying from pve'ers.
Either they lack the incentive or they lack the capability which was the overarching point of MY first post in the thread.
"Constant crying" from people on the forums is not why they don't fix it.0 -
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✭The problem is not pve'er lagging it up. It the server unable to handle their product.Edited by Bhaal5 on November 5, 2017 10:10PM2 -
Maryal✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't think everyone will experience the exact same type or amount of performance improvement because we all don't have the exact same internet provider, nor do we have the exact same pc specs.
That being said, I have noticed an improvement in terms of being able to bar swap when I press the button to do that, and when I press a skill button, the skill actually fires. Since the update, I have not experienced any frame jumping or jittering.
However, since the update, my sound cuts out during some siege battles quite often. Also, if I am killed during a large siege battle and try to respawn (whether at a FC or keep), I often get an infinite loading screen and have to manually quit the game and then re-log on.Edited by Maryal on November 5, 2017 10:37PM0 -
eso_lags✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Weren't they supposed to concentrate on "fixing" cyrodiil this year? Tick tick for us pvpers, only two months left in the year to fix it lel.
In over 3 1/2 years they have not been able to fix Cyrodiil. It makes zero sense someone would think Zos all of a sudden figured things out this year.
Think about it that for a moment.
^ I've posted a lot on the forums about the awful lag in cyrodil, and asking them to fix it. But TBH im not hopeful at all that they will ever fix it. Pve, questing, nostalgia, and the way the game looks is what makes their money. Like this guy said in like 2-3 years of awful lag (especially for us on console) they wont fix it.
The reason i post so much is simply because it pisses me off so bad that they wont acknowledge it.. I think that maybe if there was a huge thread about it they would comment and be like " we know its bad and we are trying to fix it" at least! or stop telling us in support emails to "check our ISP"
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Docmandu✭✭✭✭✭
✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »For all the load screen posts:
The infinite old screen on transit happens if anyone in your group is invisible to you. That same bug also gives you infinite load screens when things like keep flip/repair cause a load screen. The way to fix this is you have to move out of render range of each other then come back and they should be visible. This tends to happen if you form group with ppl who aren't already in your render range.
Proven time and time again it's not only when grouping... been getting these things on a daily basis in Cyrodiil and never group in Cyrodiil,0 -
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✭✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »For all the load screen posts:
The infinite old screen on transit happens if anyone in your group is invisible to you. That same bug also gives you infinite load screens when things like keep flip/repair cause a load screen. The way to fix this is you have to move out of render range of each other then come back and they should be visible. This tends to happen if you form group with ppl who aren't already in your render range.
This doesnt always work, it is the same thing as typing /reloadui, it gets rid of sharkers, but it does not always work.0 -
charley222✭✭✭✭Cyrodiil 20% performance improvement
i dont see this weekend always i die on spike lag is take about 1 or 2 min to respawn
eso plz you dont have fix np just drop the player capEdited by charley222 on November 6, 2017 4:30PMthe wall of the covenant0 -
maboleth✭✭✭✭✭
✭The reason i post so much is simply because it pisses me off so bad that they wont acknowledge it.. I think that maybe if there was a huge thread about it they would comment and be like " we know its bad and we are trying to fix it" at least! or stop telling us in support emails to "check our ISP"
I love your comment.
But trust me, you have nothing about them acknowledging it. Gina posted in Alliance forum section about some Cyrodiil updates that were pending, revealing it in "a few days". I think a month passed since then, she didn't even respond, let alone revealed anything.
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What are you talking about? Lots of PvPers wear costumes to hide the sets they're wearing. I know what monster sets and non-crafted sets look like so when I see someone without a costume, I know exactly what I'm facing which makes it even easier.Out of interest, as a non-PvPer, do you never see PvPers in Cyrodiil in costumes or riding special mounts?
Sure you do see them. Most of the time, they are 1st to die. There are good players using them as well, but not nearly as much as ppl that are either new to PvP or there just for vigor.Edited by Leogon on November 6, 2017 4:44PM0 -
playsforfun✭✭✭✭They've been saying they'll fix the performance issues since the game released haha0 -
maboleth✭✭✭✭✭
✭Secondly, you stated that cyro itself makes them no revenue, which is why they have no incentive to fix it, which is also a false statement.
Totally false. Since there's no PVP-only items in the store, they cannot make a direct revenue out of PVP gamers. If you bought 1million of crowns, they would still treat you the same, whether you just logged off and never started game again or gone pvp. They got the money.
They need to invest in coding, coder's time and servers for PVP. And they have been very reluctant to do so. Nobody of us knows how much they are earning now and how much of these come from strict PVPers? We can only speculate.
My guess, not so much, but not bad either. Not to mention the future potential of the quality PVP. They just don't see it or saw a cash cow with Morrowind so assigned 95% of priorities for PVE content. I'm a PVE player above else, but equally love to PVP. And currently Cyrodiil is in the maintenance mode.
It's evident that Cyrodiil is not nearly in their "high priority" top lists. They didn't even know the sound was broken there (and almost a month without a fix), meaning nobody form QA tested it at all, even after the update patch went live.Edited by maboleth on November 6, 2017 5:13PM1
