Duel weild stam dk?

WacArnold

I hate using dizzy swing or any other morph of that skill way to slow for my playstyle. Can you make a competitive snb dw stam dk? I never see anyone using dw on a dk so before i invest alot of time i want to find out if it would even work and not just work but be every bit competitive as two hand.

Rohaus

Still to this day the best offensive method for StamDK is sword and board... light attack + Ransack + bash. So much control over a fight with Reverb Bash... stun plus defile.

I tried out dual wield a few times on StamDK before... it's just not fast enough... and you lose out on Rally heal. Only way you can make up for losing Rally is to run Troll King... but that was recently nerfed due to defile effecting health regen too now.

RABIDxWOLVERINE

Duel Wield is more for PVE I believe where as Sword and board/2H is more for PVP.

I run a Stam DK with DW on front and Bow on back but I PVE. If interested google Alcast's Venom build. IDK he might have a PVP alternate for this build.

Like the guy above said you lose Rally but this can be replaced by Vigor.

WacArnold

Hmm yeah i hate not having rally but i was thinking troll king and taking the down side with that then using blood thirst but not sure if blood thirst has the damage to make up for dizzy swing.

I want to use the morph if fury i think its bloodthirst.

RABIDxWOLVERINE

From my understanding DW is complete crap in PVP where as its basically meta for stam dk in PVE. I could be wrong but I think you are pretty much pigeon holed in PVP to use SnB/2H.

WacArnold

RABIDxWOLVERINE wrote: »

From my understanding DW is complete crap in PVP where as its basically meta for stam dk in PVE. I could be wrong but I think you are pretty much pigeon holed in PVP to use SnB/2H.

Damn thats what i was afraid of. I knew it was for pve but was hoping i could make it work. I hate dizzy swing so much lol. Is there any builds that can produce that burst damage with sword and board alone?

Asardes

2W has no burst but has higher sustained damage in PvE. In a PvE group you can excel at raw damage as Stamina DK and leave the execute to the sorcs and NBs. But in PvP you need the 2H execute.

WacArnold

Asardes wrote: »

2W has no burst but has higher sustained damage in PvE. In a PvE group you can excel at raw damage as Stamina DK and leave the execute to the sorcs and NBs. But in PvP you need the 2H execute.

Makes sense i figured there was a reason i never. Saw it being used. Ok thanks guys.

RABIDxWOLVERINE

I'm not sure I would check out Alcast's website he has all kinds of builds and I'm sure you can find something that you would enjoy. IDK if I can link sites but Ill try its alcasthq.com

WacArnold

RABIDxWOLVERINE wrote: »

I'm not sure I would check out Alcast's website he has all kinds of builds and I'm sure you can find something that you would enjoy. IDK if I can link sites but Ill try its alcasthq.com

I know about his sites use them for pve. I will have to take a look at that i may end up just trying to get the hang of dizzy swing. My internet connection is not the best and its just hard to get it to work right but i think i will give it another shot.

devilsTear

I sometimes go 2 skoria 5 viper 5 shackle in heavy and it's great fun, sure it's not the best there is but if you just wanna have fun it's worth a try. First I did ravager but apparently flurry and morphs don't proc it so I changed to shackle.
Though with the changes you have to go medium because you don't have forward momentum and need shuffle.
Dw isn't just for pve its just not for every build, plenty of people use dw ik cyrodiil.

Asardes

NB can use 2W because it has a class execute but people mostly play it 2H nevertheless for rally - major brutality + burst heal.

ezeepeezee

I think you can do it. I've made some decent DW + 2h stamDK DoT builds. They aren't quite like the block/burst style of 2h + s/b so you have to approach them differently.

5 7th Legion on the body,
3 Agility,
Unique 2h (I like Master's Sword here, Asylum 2h is also a good option),
> 2x DoT poisons
Unique DW (Again, Master's DW is great here, vMA might work but I haven't tried it),
Troll King or Blood Spawn (or w/e you prefer here, always good to try different monster sets)

Positioning and priority target selection are very important here. Without s/b you probably want to run wings else you'll get savaged by mag sorc etc. Might try a mag cost reduction glyph because DK needs a lot of mag utility.

I can elaborate later but I have to run.

brtomkin

Checkout Krotha's "The Punisher" build...

Ragnarock41

Can you do it ? Yes,
Can it be a viable solo build? Nah, lacks too many things.

Krotha's build actually worked well in no-cp. tried it, loved it. now Its obsolete sadly.

FYI stamNB/stamden works very well with dual wield builds. you can try those.

Krotha

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Can you do it ? Yes,
Can it be a viable solo build? Nah, lacks too many things.

Krotha's build actually worked well in no-cp. tried it, loved it. now Its obsolete sadly.

FYI stamNB/stamden works very well with dual wield builds. you can try those.

How dare you call me obsolete. The Punisher is stronger than ever! (Seriously it's OP). I would post the tears on forums but my post would be removed.

Medium Armor DW/2H - I'm kicking out at least 1m dmg BG. Always doubling if not tripling my opponents damage. Same bars, however I swapped carve for brawler and I'm using the Master Greatsword.

Rest of the build details will be seen in my updated build video.

Don't believe me? @philotimodk Try your luck!

Speed_Kills

I agree with Krotha, I've been running dw/2h builds for a long time now and it's as strong as ever. If you want help or have particular questions you can pm me here or in game @Speed_Kills. I've run dw/2h builds on every Stam class with great success. I am also one of the rare players that still solo,

SRASinister

You really should look up and ask Nuru Guru on xbox na. He has a mean duel wield build on his stam dk that just annihilates in duels. He has run duel wield for over a year on it too.

Krotha

@WacArnold

First BG this morning while watching football. DW/2H Orc Stam DK in Medium Armor.

Ragnarock41

Krotha wrote: »

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Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Can you do it ? Yes,
Can it be a viable solo build? Nah, lacks too many things.

Krotha's build actually worked well in no-cp. tried it, loved it. now Its obsolete sadly.

FYI stamNB/stamden works very well with dual wield builds. you can try those.

How dare you call me obsolete. The Punisher is stronger than ever! (Seriously it's OP). I would post the tears on forums but my post would be removed.

Medium Armor DW/2H - I'm kicking out at least 1m dmg BG. Always doubling if not tripling my opponents damage. Same bars, however I swapped carve for brawler and I'm using the Master Greatsword.

Rest of the build details will be seen in my updated build video.

Don't believe me? @philotimodk Try your luck!

Well, I honestly don't, simply because bleed nbs exist and they are just better at the same job.
With that being said Im a fan of your build. I just believe its meant for Nbs more than Dks.
PS:Im an open world player. Duels and battlegrounds are meaningless cheeseballs for me.