Wardens bear ultimate is Terrible.

regime211

Honestly this was a waste of a ultimate slot, I got a enemy opponent below health to see if the bear would finish him off, and the guy didn't heal or nothing, the damn bear didn't even kill him. I mean come on this bear is useless other than being a shield for being incapped or ambushes. You guys could of seriously done better with the ultimate selection in the animal companion skill line lol.

Waffennacht

My bear's tooltip is over 20k. If an opponent is in range and gets hit and doesn't die, that's on your build.

Now the bear isn't the greatest, but in your scenario, your dmg is too low

Vaoh

It’s great against a target dummy.....

rossk25

I find the bear to be a great ultimate. One of my favs. Also with the animal companion passives, ulti regeneration is great.

The only thing I do not like is that it needs to be slotted on both bars otherwise it will unsommon the bear. They should change this to just leaving it on the one bar.

Jaxaxo

I think some ppl find really nice use of this ult

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_4kXt6bmos&t=

regime211

Waffennacht wrote: »

My bear's tooltip is over 20k. If an opponent is in range and gets hit and doesn't die, that's on your build.

Now the bear isn't the greatest, but in your scenario, your dmg is too low

That's the dumbest thing I've ever read, it's probably my build? Wth it clearly says on the warden bear tooltip on what the damage output is. Give me a break lol

regime211

Jaxaxo wrote: »

I think some ppl find really nice use of this ult

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_4kXt6bmos&t=

This video just shows it's trash lol

BloodWolfe

regime211 wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

My bear's tooltip is over 20k. If an opponent is in range and gets hit and doesn't die, that's on your build.

Now the bear isn't the greatest, but in your scenario, your dmg is too low

That's the dumbest thing I've ever read, it's probably my build? Wth it clearly says on the warden bear tooltip on what the damage output is. Give me a break lol

You post no numbers or information about the enemy, the health of the enemy (max hp and what hp you got it down to) or any info on your spec, gear, stats, etc.... Others have no issues and use the bear just fine (sure it's not the best ult but it's not the worst either) so when someone says it may be your build then maybe ask and see what you could do to improve instead of writing it off as the "dumbest thing you have ever read".

Post something credible to support your claim or don't say anything at all. My bear does just fine for me but I use him when I solo only and switch it out for a different ult when grouped but I have no issues at all.

Waffennacht

regime211 wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

My bear's tooltip is over 20k. If an opponent is in range and gets hit and doesn't die, that's on your build.

Now the bear isn't the greatest, but in your scenario, your dmg is too low

That's the dumbest thing I've ever read, it's probably my build? Wth it clearly says on the warden bear tooltip on what the damage output is. Give me a break lol

My point would be, unless your opponent has over 100k health, in execute range, the bear (and you said your opponent was allowing you to hit without any response) should straight up kill.

AnoVando

I did a parse on my Stam warden this morning. I’m pulling about 30k dps. The bear contributed to nearly 5k of that....seems pretty solid to me. Ballista only pulls 2.5k if I’m lucky.

Tryxus

The Bear is really strong, especially for solo play and smallscale, and it has been beefed up considerably with the CwC update.

Thing is tho: you just can't slap the Bear onto any build, you have to build specifically for it. Like what I did. (Shameless advertising )

But the damage it does is really nice:



The 7300 was a regular attack while my opponent was CCed in execute range, while the other attack was my Ultimate not in execute range. I've had ppl say (complain) that it hit them for 14-16k even.

My Bear has gotten a lot of hate

Waffennacht

Tryxus wrote: »

The Bear is really strong, especially for solo play and smallscale, and it has been beefed up considerably with the CwC update.

Thing is tho: you just can't slap the Bear onto any build, you have to build specifically for it. Like what I did. (Shameless advertising )

But the damage it does is really nice:



The 7300 was a regular attack while my opponent was CCed in execute range, while the other attack was my Ultimate not in execute range. I've had ppl say (complain) that it hit them for 14-16k even.

My Bear has gotten a lot of hate

Any success in BGs with da Bear?

Tryxus

Waffennacht wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

The Bear is really strong, especially for solo play and smallscale, and it has been beefed up considerably with the CwC update.

Thing is tho: you just can't slap the Bear onto any build, you have to build specifically for it. Like what I did. (Shameless advertising )

But the damage it does is really nice:



The 7300 was a regular attack while my opponent was CCed in execute range, while the other attack was my Ultimate not in execute range. I've had ppl say (complain) that it hit them for 14-16k even.

My Bear has gotten a lot of hate

Any success in BGs with da Bear?

Yup, though I still forget to recall it at times after a fight or when moving on Gotta remember to use Pet Commands there

Waffennacht

Tryxus wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

The Bear is really strong, especially for solo play and smallscale, and it has been beefed up considerably with the CwC update.

Thing is tho: you just can't slap the Bear onto any build, you have to build specifically for it. Like what I did. (Shameless advertising )

But the damage it does is really nice:



The 7300 was a regular attack while my opponent was CCed in execute range, while the other attack was my Ultimate not in execute range. I've had ppl say (complain) that it hit them for 14-16k even.

My Bear has gotten a lot of hate

Any success in BGs with da Bear?

Yup, though I still forget to recall it at times after a fight or when moving on Gotta remember to use Pet Commands there

I wish console had pet commands

Phatmattfu

It's more of a PvE skill.

I'm hoping they add a set or item that gives it the ability to cleave. Then we might even see it in trials.

Healing ultimate turns the tide of pvp battles


Sure the bear could use some love, but i'm happy with it. It's my only source of execute as magicka warden.

vovus69

this is the best ult for solo. I can handle WB with bear. Not all of them, but all single WB are doable.

-vovus

ADarklore

rossk25 wrote: »

I find the bear to be a great ultimate. One of my favs. Also with the animal companion passives, ulti regeneration is great.

The only thing I do not like is that it needs to be slotted on both bars otherwise it will unsommon the bear. They should change this to just leaving it on the one bar.

The devs have already stated that all 'combat pets' will remain doubled barred... after all, you're getting a free 'aggro draw' along with damage. Being a solo player, I send the bear in first to tank while I deal damage from range... if this wasn't double-barred it would be seriously OP... especially since you'd also being able to utilize two ultimates.

Integral1900

“To Be read in a gravely movie advert voice”

The warden bear... the target dummy’s only natural predator... and good for pretty much nothing else

regime211

BloodWolfe wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

My bear's tooltip is over 20k. If an opponent is in range and gets hit and doesn't die, that's on your build.

Now the bear isn't the greatest, but in your scenario, your dmg is too low

That's the dumbest thing I've ever read, it's probably my build? Wth it clearly says on the warden bear tooltip on what the damage output is. Give me a break lol

You post no numbers or information about the enemy, the health of the enemy (max hp and what hp you got it down to) or any info on your spec, gear, stats, etc.... Others have no issues and use the bear just fine (sure it's not the best ult but it's not the worst either) so when someone says it may be your build then maybe ask and see what you could do to improve instead of writing it off as the "dumbest thing you have ever read".

Post something credible to support your claim or don't say anything at all. My bear does just fine for me but I use him when I solo only and switch it out for a different ult when grouped but I have no issues at all.

My post, so I can say whatever I like.

Waffennacht

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regime211 wrote: »

BloodWolfe wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

My bear's tooltip is over 20k. If an opponent is in range and gets hit and doesn't die, that's on your build.

Now the bear isn't the greatest, but in your scenario, your dmg is too low

That's the dumbest thing I've ever read, it's probably my build? Wth it clearly says on the warden bear tooltip on what the damage output is. Give me a break lol

You post no numbers or information about the enemy, the health of the enemy (max hp and what hp you got it down to) or any info on your spec, gear, stats, etc.... Others have no issues and use the bear just fine (sure it's not the best ult but it's not the worst either) so when someone says it may be your build then maybe ask and see what you could do to improve instead of writing it off as the "dumbest thing you have ever read".

Post something credible to support your claim or don't say anything at all. My bear does just fine for me but I use him when I solo only and switch it out for a different ult when grouped but I have no issues at all.

My post, so I can say whatever I like.

Just moving past the validity of this statement...

If you want help on your build we can give it

If you want support in trying to improve an ability, we can give it

If you want to discuss the viability of abilities we can do that too.

I highly recommend giving enough information so that we can work together, this isn't a "got ya!" situation.

Quite frankly, I'm interested to see what your stats are just to try and understand the situation you described. In no way are we looking to shame you

WuffyCerulei

Waffennacht wrote: »

My bear's tooltip is over 20k. If an opponent is in range and gets hit and doesn't die, that's on your build.

Now the bear isn't the greatest, but in your scenario, your dmg is too low

I'm pretty sure you're referring to the bear's execute ability, not the base damage.

Waffennacht

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

My bear's tooltip is over 20k. If an opponent is in range and gets hit and doesn't die, that's on your build.

Now the bear isn't the greatest, but in your scenario, your dmg is too low

I'm pretty sure you're referring to the bear's execute ability, not the base damage.

Tooltip, meaning base damage in PvP is 10k. So in Execute range it would deal 20k in PvP

Laquey

Waffennacht wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

My bear's tooltip is over 20k. If an opponent is in range and gets hit and doesn't die, that's on your build.

Now the bear isn't the greatest, but in your scenario, your dmg is too low

I'm pretty sure you're referring to the bear's execute ability, not the base damage.

Tooltip, meaning base damage in PvP is 10k. So in Execute range it would deal 20k in PvP

The tooltip of my Warden Gank (non meta) build is 30K with weapon berserker up, Waffennacht is being conservative, but yes it's it execute not swipe, my swipe on the 30K tooltip is 5.7K

Evan8642

if your planning on using magical attacks.
if you increase your max MP that will give your bear more power
if you increase your spell power that will give your bear more power
if you increase your critical hit damage your bears critical hit attacks will increase in power
if you make sure your critical hitting all the time then he will deal the most damage
if you weaken the enemies magical defense / spell penetration your bear will deal more damage
(empower does not effect the magical bear)
when an enemy is 25% or below your bear does more damage

lets say when I read my tooltip I read that my bear does around 15,000 damage (which is low) when I activate my ultimate. when an enemy gets 25% and below that damage goes to 30,000

if I critically hit that damage is increased by 50% (because critical hits are your normal damage +50%) so instead of 30,000 damage now i'm dealing 45,000 damage, or higher and that's off of 72 ultimate or whatever the low cost is which is much better single target damage vs other ults.

you can further this damage if you decrease the enemy's resistances, or power yourself up with major's and minor's and unique effects (some work some don't) distribute your CP points into (increases crtical hit damage) etc

whats nice about the night mothers gaze set is you can get close to 92% spell critical making all your attacks critical hits including the bears ultimate if you pair it with other sets like it.

Using this skill on a player has a different effect;
While fighting against other players you gain the effect "battle spirit" in which your total damage is decreased by 50% meaning that if your bear ultimate hits for 10k its only going to deal 5k damage.

Evan8642

it also goes without saying that the stamina version of the bear "bear deals increased physical damage" in some cases can get easier access to physical critical hit % / total damage done which makes your bear hit unreasonably harder than the magic version , if anything they need to equal them out.