What is the Best Nightblade Build for AOE Damage in PVE?

Storymaster

What is the recommended Nightblade Build for AOE Damage in PVE? Is there anything on par with the StamSorc in this regard?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Storymaster wrote: »

gethemshauna wrote: »

Slot Sap Essence or shock staff, not sure you need something else if destro ult melts everything.

@gethemshauna I'd rather have a duel wield/bow build, but insightful information nonetheless.

Bladerunner1 wrote: »

You mentioned StamSorc, are you asking about a Stamblade build?

@Bladerunner1 I am open to any NB build, Stam or Magicka based, that supports a massive AOE melting of standard overland PVE mobs while being able to manage resources without reasonable stopping time, much like the StamSorc.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Lay down caltrops, endless hail, then spam steel tornado or power extraction, if you, like me, hate using pots. Just doing those things will be enough, the only thing a sorc has that you don't is hurricane, and that is that as big of deal as people say.

@Lightspeedflashb14_ESO It's a little more complicated than simply having Hurricane with StamSorcs. They have Critical Surge and class passives combined with CP assignment that creates protection and massive self-healing while dealing major AOE damage.

God, does everything need to be picked apart, of course "it's a little bit more complicated" bla bla.


Massive healing is not what you are asking. The major AOE damage is literally only hurricane with the passive execute that sorc has plus all the other thing that a stam class run for aoe. Really not that big of deal. Nightblades have in class minor berserk to bring them more in line with those things. If you are talking about the major resists buff with hurricane too, nbs have the passive major resists from casting surprise attack once, with shadow barrier.

In a situation where you need "massive AOE dps" you will have a healer, so both in class advantages are mute with combat prayer being applied and the healer healing. Again. Not that big of deal.

I have no idea what you mean by"CP assignment that creates protection " either.

You will likely never be in a situation where it will matter.


Reading closer you say"standard overland PVE mobs" lol if you are playing a nb like a sorc in overland pve, then you are doing it wrong. slot Shadowy Disguise and Surprise Attack, and simply take out the mobs one by one with it. the easiest way to play overland content in the game, the mobs can't even fight back because they are dead and can't find you. you ought to be able to one or 2 shot everything from stealth and then disappear. ezpz

kylewwefan

Nightblade really excels at single target DPS, but for AOE it would be about the same as any Stam class.

Caltrops
Arrow barrage
Steel tornado

Or if you wanted to use a 2H or even S/B can replace steel tornado with power extraction. It hits very hard and has a much bigger range than cleave.

Bladerunner1

For cheap and high damage AOE in PVE dungeons with high survivability:



That screenshot came from my Cleave Focused Build

Fighting a huge crowd of mobs in a dungeon shouldn't take any longer than a handful of seconds, but ESO just added a set that allows us to shave off two more seconds from those fights:



Craft a front bar Mechanical Acuity weapon as part of a 5 piece set and you get 5 seconds of pure crits when you swap to the front bar. If a giant crowd of trash mobs Isn't all dead within those 5 seconds, something must be wrong.

I have a dual wield single target build attached to a hot key, I swap to that whenever I'm about to fight a tough boss.

getemshauna

Slot Sap Essence or shock staff, not sure you need something else if destro ult melts everything.

Bladerunner1

You mentioned StamSorc, are you asking about a Stamblade build?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Lay down caltrops, endless hail, then spam steel tornado or power extraction, if you, like me, hate using pots. Just doing those things will be enough, the only thing a sorc has that you don't is hurricane, and that is not as big of deal as people say.

Storymaster

gethemshauna wrote: »

Slot Sap Essence or shock staff, not sure you need something else if destro ult melts everything.

@gethemshauna I'd rather have a duel wield/bow build, but insightful information nonetheless.

Bladerunner1 wrote: »

You mentioned StamSorc, are you asking about a Stamblade build?

@Bladerunner1 I am open to any NB build, Stam or Magicka based, that supports a massive AOE melting of standard overland PVE mobs while being able to manage resources without reasonable stopping time, much like the StamSorc.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Lay down caltrops, endless hail, then spam steel tornado or power extraction, if you, like me, hate using pots. Just doing those things will be enough, the only thing a sorc has that you don't is hurricane, and that is that as big of deal as people say.

@Lightspeedflashb14_ESO It's a little more complicated than simply having Hurricane with StamSorcs. They have Critical Surge and class passives combined with CP assignment that creates protection and massive self-healing while dealing major AOE damage.

Storymaster

Appreciate the information everyone!

Bladerunner1

So you want cheap and high damage AOE on overland mobs?

If you must stick with Dual wield use shrouded daggers, the drawback is it will cost a lot of stamina as you spam it 3-4 times.

The 2H forceful passive offers a good alternative.

Stack weapon damage to buff heavy attacks with Warrior mundus / Automaton set with weapon damage enchants on jewelry / Hundings set / 1 pc. Velidrith or Molag Kena and use a two hand maul with Sharpened or Nirn. A heavy attack will deal free 50% splash damage on three nearby enemies, then follow that up with either Reverse Slice or Power Extraction. If the mob's health is still over 50% after the first heavy attack hit use Power Extraction, then use light attack+ Reverse Slice. Things die fast and it's very cheap on Stamina.

vovus69

mag nb AOE - sap, proximity detonation, force pulse (if you have destro). The more enemies is the better - sap will return more health to you. But this one will be pretty low on damage in single enemy situations - like dungeon bosses, etc. So the best area for that - trash in group dungeons, public dungeons, etc.

-vovus

Jaimeh

For my magNB, I use Grothdarr with WoE, sap essence, and path of darkness. Then for my stamNB, I use Velidreth, with endless hail, power extraction, steel tormado and caltrops. I don't know if they are on par with stamsorcs as I haven't played that class for some time, but both do really nice aoe damage.

vovus69

there are also other AOE sets like Thunderbug. I used it while ago, now I am looking at it again. This will be good with grothdarr.

-vovus