Magicka Templar 37,5k DPS selfbuffed (HotR)
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✭✭NiclasFridholm wrote: »NiclasFridholm wrote: »Bugged Puncturing Sweeps (granted this build doesn't slot it), bugged Jesus Beam, and this specific build uses Entropy which is not optimal for DPS. Still putting out much more damage than a non-pet Mag Sorc. Also there is a chance that Purifying Light will deal extra damage in a trial since it will always hit its damage cap thanks to your allies.
Does this mean that non-pet Mag Sorc is actually the 2nd worst DPS spec atm, only surpassing Magicka Warden? I think I finally understand why ZOS finally made vMoL 1st/2nd boss and The Warrior more friendly toward pets in CwC. They intend for Mag Sorcs to always slot Volatile Familiar to be competitive. Unfortunately they still are horrible against The Mage and The Serpent, and attract AoE from St. Olms Storm of the Heavens in vAS.
Purifting light is bugged and cancels PoTL so dont use it in raids!
@NiclasFridholm I´m currently using an old BiS setup (5 Moondancer (swords +jewels) + 5 Julianos). What would you swap out PL for on the frontbar?? (I´ve on my frontbar: Sweeps, Vampire bane, inner light, Purifying Light, Radiant, Shooting star)
Tbh I gave up on Magplar last night, we are stuck in a Sorc/NB playstyle so might aswell main one! Wish I could give you some advice but the harsh truth is that Melee Magplars are pretty dead in end game raiding.
@NiclasFridholm
RIP, I guess I´ll go back to my magicka DK then.....ohh wait.....
Go Stamplar, this way you are usefull for the group, you have more DPS and you can still cry about buggy skills. You will have everything a templar needs
I did so and i'm pretty happy about it
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NiclasFridholm✭✭✭✭NiclasFridholm wrote: »NiclasFridholm wrote: »Bugged Puncturing Sweeps (granted this build doesn't slot it), bugged Jesus Beam, and this specific build uses Entropy which is not optimal for DPS. Still putting out much more damage than a non-pet Mag Sorc. Also there is a chance that Purifying Light will deal extra damage in a trial since it will always hit its damage cap thanks to your allies.
Does this mean that non-pet Mag Sorc is actually the 2nd worst DPS spec atm, only surpassing Magicka Warden? I think I finally understand why ZOS finally made vMoL 1st/2nd boss and The Warrior more friendly toward pets in CwC. They intend for Mag Sorcs to always slot Volatile Familiar to be competitive. Unfortunately they still are horrible against The Mage and The Serpent, and attract AoE from St. Olms Storm of the Heavens in vAS.
Purifting light is bugged and cancels PoTL so dont use it in raids!
@NiclasFridholm I´m currently using an old BiS setup (5 Moondancer (swords +jewels) + 5 Julianos). What would you swap out PL for on the frontbar?? (I´ve on my frontbar: Sweeps, Vampire bane, inner light, Purifying Light, Radiant, Shooting star)
Tbh I gave up on Magplar last night, we are stuck in a Sorc/NB playstyle so might aswell main one! Wish I could give you some advice but the harsh truth is that Melee Magplars are pretty dead in end game raiding.
@NiclasFridholm
RIP, I guess I´ll go back to my magicka DK then.....ohh wait.....
Go Stamplar, this way you are usefull for the group, you have more DPS and you can still cry about buggy skills. You will have everything a templar needs
I did so and i'm pretty happy about it
I might, but NB is first to master!Tobias Funke - Magplar since forever0 -
DeHei✭✭✭✭✭NiclasFridholm wrote: »NiclasFridholm wrote: »Bugged Puncturing Sweeps (granted this build doesn't slot it), bugged Jesus Beam, and this specific build uses Entropy which is not optimal for DPS. Still putting out much more damage than a non-pet Mag Sorc. Also there is a chance that Purifying Light will deal extra damage in a trial since it will always hit its damage cap thanks to your allies.
Does this mean that non-pet Mag Sorc is actually the 2nd worst DPS spec atm, only surpassing Magicka Warden? I think I finally understand why ZOS finally made vMoL 1st/2nd boss and The Warrior more friendly toward pets in CwC. They intend for Mag Sorcs to always slot Volatile Familiar to be competitive. Unfortunately they still are horrible against The Mage and The Serpent, and attract AoE from St. Olms Storm of the Heavens in vAS.
Purifting light is bugged and cancels PoTL so dont use it in raids!
@NiclasFridholm I´m currently using an old BiS setup (5 Moondancer (swords +jewels) + 5 Julianos). What would you swap out PL for on the frontbar?? (I´ve on my frontbar: Sweeps, Vampire bane, inner light, Purifying Light, Radiant, Shooting star)
Tbh I gave up on Magplar last night, we are stuck in a Sorc/NB playstyle so might aswell main one! Wish I could give you some advice but the harsh truth is that Melee Magplars are pretty dead in end game raiding.
@NiclasFridholm
RIP, I guess I´ll go back to my magicka DK then.....ohh wait.....
Go Stamplar, this way you are usefull for the group, you have more DPS and you can still cry about buggy skills. You will have everything a templar needs
I did so and i'm pretty happy about it
Ehm, since the new trial range DDs are prefered now and magicka classes get more love atm in range DPS..
Another thing: You really support your group with this healingeffects. My constant DPS at new trial endboss is arround 20-22k. I dont know much staminaguys, who can hold this DPS at that boss..DeHei - EP Magicka Templar AllrounderDe Hei(Youtube)0 -
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✭✭Templar's skills are working additively and not Multiplacatively like they should be. Thats why Jabs and beam are such *** right nowFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info0 -
DeHei✭✭✭✭✭Templar's skills are working additively and not Multiplacatively like they should be. Thats why Jabs and beam are such *** right now
that and:NiclasFridholm wrote: »Purifting light is bugged and cancels PoTL so dont use it in raids!
this...
I should ask our healers not using PotL anymore... but before i will test it today and explain you my results... in our raid we have 2 healer and me as magicka DD templar. In relation we should do more raid-DPS, when all of us using purifying light and this DPS isnt negated instead of buffing the stamina-DDs with PotL. I am hot to test this!
When this is true, ZOS will get another ragereport!Edited by DeHei on November 3, 2017 6:59AMDeHei - EP Magicka Templar AllrounderDe Hei(Youtube)0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Templar's skills are working additively and not Multiplacatively like they should be. Thats why Jabs and beam are such *** right now
They didn´t work like that before Morrowind if I recall correctly. Impale had the same issue working additively after Morrowind, but was changed......still unsure why ZOS decided to fix Impale but not Radiant Destruction...
Might as well go with Radiant Glory and get some heals instead...0 -
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✭✭NiclasFridholm wrote: »NiclasFridholm wrote: »Bugged Puncturing Sweeps (granted this build doesn't slot it), bugged Jesus Beam, and this specific build uses Entropy which is not optimal for DPS. Still putting out much more damage than a non-pet Mag Sorc. Also there is a chance that Purifying Light will deal extra damage in a trial since it will always hit its damage cap thanks to your allies.
Does this mean that non-pet Mag Sorc is actually the 2nd worst DPS spec atm, only surpassing Magicka Warden? I think I finally understand why ZOS finally made vMoL 1st/2nd boss and The Warrior more friendly toward pets in CwC. They intend for Mag Sorcs to always slot Volatile Familiar to be competitive. Unfortunately they still are horrible against The Mage and The Serpent, and attract AoE from St. Olms Storm of the Heavens in vAS.
Purifting light is bugged and cancels PoTL so dont use it in raids!
@NiclasFridholm I´m currently using an old BiS setup (5 Moondancer (swords +jewels) + 5 Julianos). What would you swap out PL for on the frontbar?? (I´ve on my frontbar: Sweeps, Vampire bane, inner light, Purifying Light, Radiant, Shooting star)
Tbh I gave up on Magplar last night, we are stuck in a Sorc/NB playstyle so might aswell main one! Wish I could give you some advice but the harsh truth is that Melee Magplars are pretty dead in end game raiding.
@NiclasFridholm
RIP, I guess I´ll go back to my magicka DK then.....ohh wait.....
Go Stamplar, this way you are usefull for the group, you have more DPS and you can still cry about buggy skills. You will have everything a templar needs
I did so and i'm pretty happy about it
Ehm, since the new trial range DDs are prefered now and magicka classes get more love atm in range DPS..
Another thing: You really support your group with this healingeffects. My constant DPS at new trial endboss is arround 20-22k. I dont know much staminaguys, who can hold this DPS at that boss..
For new raids magicka and magicka-templar in general is good bc of offhealing, faster rezzes and the ability to go ranged. But as soon as you learned all you need as stamina-DD you will outdps them again.
And on top of it...the new one is one out of 6 trials...Noobplar0 -
DeHei✭✭✭✭✭NiclasFridholm wrote: »NiclasFridholm wrote: »Bugged Puncturing Sweeps (granted this build doesn't slot it), bugged Jesus Beam, and this specific build uses Entropy which is not optimal for DPS. Still putting out much more damage than a non-pet Mag Sorc. Also there is a chance that Purifying Light will deal extra damage in a trial since it will always hit its damage cap thanks to your allies.
Does this mean that non-pet Mag Sorc is actually the 2nd worst DPS spec atm, only surpassing Magicka Warden? I think I finally understand why ZOS finally made vMoL 1st/2nd boss and The Warrior more friendly toward pets in CwC. They intend for Mag Sorcs to always slot Volatile Familiar to be competitive. Unfortunately they still are horrible against The Mage and The Serpent, and attract AoE from St. Olms Storm of the Heavens in vAS.
Purifting light is bugged and cancels PoTL so dont use it in raids!
@NiclasFridholm I´m currently using an old BiS setup (5 Moondancer (swords +jewels) + 5 Julianos). What would you swap out PL for on the frontbar?? (I´ve on my frontbar: Sweeps, Vampire bane, inner light, Purifying Light, Radiant, Shooting star)
Tbh I gave up on Magplar last night, we are stuck in a Sorc/NB playstyle so might aswell main one! Wish I could give you some advice but the harsh truth is that Melee Magplars are pretty dead in end game raiding.
@NiclasFridholm
RIP, I guess I´ll go back to my magicka DK then.....ohh wait.....
Go Stamplar, this way you are usefull for the group, you have more DPS and you can still cry about buggy skills. You will have everything a templar needs
I did so and i'm pretty happy about it
Ehm, since the new trial range DDs are prefered now and magicka classes get more love atm in range DPS..
Another thing: You really support your group with this healingeffects. My constant DPS at new trial endboss is arround 20-22k. I dont know much staminaguys, who can hold this DPS at that boss..
For new raids magicka and magicka-templar in general is good bc of offhealing, faster rezzes and the ability to go ranged. But as soon as you learned all you need as stamina-DD you will outdps them again.
And on top of it...the new one is one out of 6 trials...
I see it more as support DD... but i really would see, that ZOS fix this many bugs in DPSing... sweeps, oppression and purifying light more then 1 time on a target would be great fixes!DeHei - EP Magicka Templar AllrounderDe Hei(Youtube)0 -
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✭✭NiclasFridholm wrote: »NiclasFridholm wrote: »Bugged Puncturing Sweeps (granted this build doesn't slot it), bugged Jesus Beam, and this specific build uses Entropy which is not optimal for DPS. Still putting out much more damage than a non-pet Mag Sorc. Also there is a chance that Purifying Light will deal extra damage in a trial since it will always hit its damage cap thanks to your allies.
Does this mean that non-pet Mag Sorc is actually the 2nd worst DPS spec atm, only surpassing Magicka Warden? I think I finally understand why ZOS finally made vMoL 1st/2nd boss and The Warrior more friendly toward pets in CwC. They intend for Mag Sorcs to always slot Volatile Familiar to be competitive. Unfortunately they still are horrible against The Mage and The Serpent, and attract AoE from St. Olms Storm of the Heavens in vAS.
Purifting light is bugged and cancels PoTL so dont use it in raids!
@NiclasFridholm I´m currently using an old BiS setup (5 Moondancer (swords +jewels) + 5 Julianos). What would you swap out PL for on the frontbar?? (I´ve on my frontbar: Sweeps, Vampire bane, inner light, Purifying Light, Radiant, Shooting star)
Tbh I gave up on Magplar last night, we are stuck in a Sorc/NB playstyle so might aswell main one! Wish I could give you some advice but the harsh truth is that Melee Magplars are pretty dead in end game raiding.
@NiclasFridholm
RIP, I guess I´ll go back to my magicka DK then.....ohh wait.....
Go Stamplar, this way you are usefull for the group, you have more DPS and you can still cry about buggy skills. You will have everything a templar needs
I did so and i'm pretty happy about it
Ehm, since the new trial range DDs are prefered now and magicka classes get more love atm in range DPS..
Another thing: You really support your group with this healingeffects. My constant DPS at new trial endboss is arround 20-22k. I dont know much staminaguys, who can hold this DPS at that boss..
For new raids magicka and magicka-templar in general is good bc of offhealing, faster rezzes and the ability to go ranged. But as soon as you learned all you need as stamina-DD you will outdps them again.
And on top of it...the new one is one out of 6 trials...
I see it more as support DD... but i really would see, that ZOS fix this many bugs in DPSing... sweeps, oppression and purifying light more then 1 time on a target would be great fixes!
Sweeps/jabs also don't hit targets located at max range...instead of 8m it's more like 5...6m range. I always cry when engaging vmol/endboss (first seconds when boss is at the middle...heavy-attacks connect easily but jabs miss 100%)
I agree on the supportrole of templar-DPS...i guess it's the strength and the main issue with magplar atm...you just don't need this role in any trial but vAS.Edited by Destruent on November 4, 2017 9:54AMNoobplar0 -
DeHei✭✭✭✭✭NiclasFridholm wrote: »NiclasFridholm wrote: »Bugged Puncturing Sweeps (granted this build doesn't slot it), bugged Jesus Beam, and this specific build uses Entropy which is not optimal for DPS. Still putting out much more damage than a non-pet Mag Sorc. Also there is a chance that Purifying Light will deal extra damage in a trial since it will always hit its damage cap thanks to your allies.
Does this mean that non-pet Mag Sorc is actually the 2nd worst DPS spec atm, only surpassing Magicka Warden? I think I finally understand why ZOS finally made vMoL 1st/2nd boss and The Warrior more friendly toward pets in CwC. They intend for Mag Sorcs to always slot Volatile Familiar to be competitive. Unfortunately they still are horrible against The Mage and The Serpent, and attract AoE from St. Olms Storm of the Heavens in vAS.
Purifting light is bugged and cancels PoTL so dont use it in raids!
@NiclasFridholm I´m currently using an old BiS setup (5 Moondancer (swords +jewels) + 5 Julianos). What would you swap out PL for on the frontbar?? (I´ve on my frontbar: Sweeps, Vampire bane, inner light, Purifying Light, Radiant, Shooting star)
Tbh I gave up on Magplar last night, we are stuck in a Sorc/NB playstyle so might aswell main one! Wish I could give you some advice but the harsh truth is that Melee Magplars are pretty dead in end game raiding.
@NiclasFridholm
RIP, I guess I´ll go back to my magicka DK then.....ohh wait.....
Go Stamplar, this way you are usefull for the group, you have more DPS and you can still cry about buggy skills. You will have everything a templar needs
I did so and i'm pretty happy about it
Ehm, since the new trial range DDs are prefered now and magicka classes get more love atm in range DPS..
Another thing: You really support your group with this healingeffects. My constant DPS at new trial endboss is arround 20-22k. I dont know much staminaguys, who can hold this DPS at that boss..
For new raids magicka and magicka-templar in general is good bc of offhealing, faster rezzes and the ability to go ranged. But as soon as you learned all you need as stamina-DD you will outdps them again.
And on top of it...the new one is one out of 6 trials...
I see it more as support DD... but i really would see, that ZOS fix this many bugs in DPSing... sweeps, oppression and purifying light more then 1 time on a target would be great fixes!
Sweeps/jabs also don't hit targets located at max range...instead of 8m it's more like 5...6m range. I always cry when engaging vmol/endboss (first seconds when boss is at the middle...heavy-attacks connect easily but jabs miss 100%)
I agree on the supportrole of templar-DPS...i guess it's the strength and the main issue with magplar atm...you just don't need this role in any trial but vAS.
Is not bad support. I do 20% raidheal in most trials just with ritual and purifying light. I can rezz faster like you said and i give blazing spear support for everyone who need. Together with that my DPS is ok.. not the best but i am in the middle of raid-DPS. But with 2 good heal templar this role isnt really needed.. isnt wrong to have 1 but other can do the job good too or maybe better..
Is the same for magicka warden. No real reason to give them a chance in raids...Edited by DeHei on November 4, 2017 10:05AMDeHei - EP Magicka Templar AllrounderDe Hei(Youtube)0 -
NiclasFridholm✭✭✭✭NiclasFridholm wrote: »NiclasFridholm wrote: »Bugged Puncturing Sweeps (granted this build doesn't slot it), bugged Jesus Beam, and this specific build uses Entropy which is not optimal for DPS. Still putting out much more damage than a non-pet Mag Sorc. Also there is a chance that Purifying Light will deal extra damage in a trial since it will always hit its damage cap thanks to your allies.
Does this mean that non-pet Mag Sorc is actually the 2nd worst DPS spec atm, only surpassing Magicka Warden? I think I finally understand why ZOS finally made vMoL 1st/2nd boss and The Warrior more friendly toward pets in CwC. They intend for Mag Sorcs to always slot Volatile Familiar to be competitive. Unfortunately they still are horrible against The Mage and The Serpent, and attract AoE from St. Olms Storm of the Heavens in vAS.
Purifting light is bugged and cancels PoTL so dont use it in raids!
@NiclasFridholm I´m currently using an old BiS setup (5 Moondancer (swords +jewels) + 5 Julianos). What would you swap out PL for on the frontbar?? (I´ve on my frontbar: Sweeps, Vampire bane, inner light, Purifying Light, Radiant, Shooting star)
Tbh I gave up on Magplar last night, we are stuck in a Sorc/NB playstyle so might aswell main one! Wish I could give you some advice but the harsh truth is that Melee Magplars are pretty dead in end game raiding.
@NiclasFridholm
RIP, I guess I´ll go back to my magicka DK then.....ohh wait.....
Go Stamplar, this way you are usefull for the group, you have more DPS and you can still cry about buggy skills. You will have everything a templar needs
I did so and i'm pretty happy about it
Ehm, since the new trial range DDs are prefered now and magicka classes get more love atm in range DPS..
Another thing: You really support your group with this healingeffects. My constant DPS at new trial endboss is arround 20-22k. I dont know much staminaguys, who can hold this DPS at that boss..
For new raids magicka and magicka-templar in general is good bc of offhealing, faster rezzes and the ability to go ranged. But as soon as you learned all you need as stamina-DD you will outdps them again.
And on top of it...the new one is one out of 6 trials...
I see it more as support DD... but i really would see, that ZOS fix this many bugs in DPSing... sweeps, oppression and purifying light more then 1 time on a target would be great fixes!
Sweeps/jabs also don't hit targets located at max range...instead of 8m it's more like 5...6m range. I always cry when engaging vmol/endboss (first seconds when boss is at the middle...heavy-attacks connect easily but jabs miss 100%)
I agree on the supportrole of templar-DPS...i guess it's the strength and the main issue with magplar atm...you just don't need this role in any trial but vAS.
Is not bad support. I do 20% raidheal in most trials just with ritual and purifying light. I can rezz faster like you said and i give blazing spear support for everyone who need. Together with that my DPS is ok.. not the best but i am in the middle of raid-DPS. But with 2 good heal templar this role isnt really needed.. isnt wrong to have 1 but other can do the job good too or maybe better..
Is the same for magicka warden. No real reason to give them a chance in raids...
Or mag DKs...
Kudos for not giving up, I just couldnt play this broken class anymore. Tobias Funke - Magplar since forever0