Magicka Templar 37,5k DPS selfbuffed (HotR)

DeHei

I switched puncturing sweep for Degeneration and wonder, that i deal more damage. I dont need casttime for that skill, is a dot and gives some buffs. Together with that, i can use my build completly on range! If you are interested look here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM0KS6p4N24&feature=youtu.be

Btw. puncturing sweep are really not good actually, because my heavy attacks deal more damage and give me sustain! Interesting for every templarplayer maybe...

Hf

ereboz

Thank you for uploading, I'm very interested in this build, been wanting to make a magplar. Do you have a written guide?

Destruent

Why do you use degeneration? it does less than 1k DPS...

Qbiken

When heavy attacks does more dps than your class-specific spammable.....gg ZOS

DeHei

ereboz wrote: »

Thank you for uploading, I'm very interested in this build, been wanting to make a magplar. Do you have a written guide?

Yeah, maybe i make a build video in few days. You can add me on Youtube and waiting for it.

Destruent wrote: »

Why do you use degeneration? it does less than 1k DPS...

Qbiken wrote: »

When heavy attacks does more dps than your class-specific spammable.....gg ZOS

I really wonder why, but my heavy attacks increase my damage more then puncturing sweep. I heared in the past, that heavy attacks deal around 60% more damage on offbalanced targets. This would explain it, but i am not sure if that is right.

But the problem is showen, i deal more damage, when i dont use one of the best templarskills... I deal more damage with an other dot, which gives me a bit max magicka, sustain, is cheap, deals damage, gives survivalbility and buffs my next direct hits. Look, when my next light attack is increased for 20% while the target is influenced from blockade, what allready increase this light attack, i deal more damage then before. Together with that i can fight on range and dont need a melee place in trials.

Maybe ZOS should really buff some templarskills and buff spamable skills again in that way, that we need to use them... why should i use a skill, when another attack, which gives me sustain, deal maybe more damage and dont need a slot is just crazy more powerful!

Joy_Division

It's not just templars. Ever since Morrowind, I've had beeter and more consistent results just not using spammables. They are tooe xpensive and don't do enough damage or other effects to be worth casting in prolonged fights.

And ZoS is STILL thinks sustain is a problem.

I PvP and count mysefl as a PvPer, but in this case the PvErs are right: PvP whining has sucked a lot of the enjoyment out of playing ESO

Asardes

Lol I ended up with something similar after tearing my hair out in vMA. All ranged. Puncturing sweep is a waste of magicka sadly

Parrot1986

Torn between impressed for the build and sad that it’s come to this

Destruent

Joy_Division wrote: »

It's not just templars. Ever since Morrowind, I've had beeter and more consistent results just not using spammables. They are tooe xpensive and don't do enough damage or other effects to be worth casting in prolonged fights.

And ZoS is STILL thinks sustain is a problem.

I PvP and count mysefl as a PvPer, but in this case the PvErs are right: PvP whining has sucked a lot of the enjoyment out of playing ESO

The worst of all is: Having more or less infinite sustain is still easily possible in PvP...

There's only one real effect of sustain-changes: combat got slow and boring and some skills got extremely useless...

DeHei

The only spammable for magicka classes seems to be force pulse in future... The good thing every class can use it together with the asylumstaff, but all class spammables look useless.. This is a point for PvE and PvP..
We have same amount of DPS all classes can reach, but a much more boring rotations and fights... not a good change in my eyes

Siliziumdioxid

Lightning heavy attacks are that strong because of following reasons:
1. If you have an infused Maelstrom Lightning staff backbar infused buffs the enchant even if you swap to your front bar to do the heavy attacks there. (gone next patch)
2. Light and heavy attacks scale nearly solely with spell damage not so much with max magicka... the current meta(Apprentice etc.) favors spelldamage.
2. the Maelstrom buff applies to every tick of a lightning heavy attack. this buff can crit.
3. heavy attacks do with each tick 70% increased damage against an offbalance target. (the maelstrombuff is getting that increase too).

Another reason is that puncturing sweeps is not really that time efficient skill (either you have spare time in your rota or you lose uptime on Dot's)

Asardes

Also puncturing sweep is hard to weave efficiently with LA, let alone with HA in a laggy environment. Force pulse is much more natural being insta-cast.

DeHei

Siliziumdioxid wrote: »

Lightning heavy attacks are that strong because of following reasons:
1. If you have an infused Maelstrom Lightning staff backbar infused buffs the enchant even if you swap to your front bar to do the heavy attacks there. (gone next patch)
2. Light and heavy attacks scale nearly solely with spell damage not so much with max magicka... the current meta(Apprentice etc.) favors spelldamage.
2. the Maelstrom buff applies to every tick of a lightning heavy attack. this buff can crit.
3. heavy attacks do with each tick 70% increased damage against an offbalance target. (the maelstrombuff is getting that increase too).

Another reason is that puncturing sweeps is not really that time efficient skill (either you have spare time in your rota or you lose uptime on Dot's)

Dont have an infused vMSA lightningstaff, but i farm it since i play vMSA (over 250 runs i did)...

70% for heavy attacks.. i thought just 60%... yeah looks really strong

NiclasFridholm

But How dare you steal Staminas Offbalance!?
No but seriously, sweeps and our "execute" got hit with 8K ST nerf when they changed the calculstions and killed the class. Besides, why play as a Sorc on a magplar and get less DPS? Sad days

DeHei

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

But How dare you steal Staminas Offbalance!?
No but seriously, sweeps and our "execute" got hit with 8K ST nerf when they changed the calculstions and killed the class. Besides, why play as a Sorc on a magplar and get less DPS? Sad days

Until we get back better stuff, we need to learn how else we can push our damage. I really think, that i can climb to 40k DPS with Master architekt instead of aether... this would not be so bad..

Only sad think, i really dont need so much class abilities for it.. a poor degeneration skill gives more DPS just in reason of bonis and passiva...

Asardes

I've come to about the same skills setup as the one in the video, the only notable difference being crushing shock instead of vampire's bane, since it's more suited for vMA where interrupts are necessary, especially ranged ones. My bar setup is:
Front: Radiant Glory | Crushing Shock | Purifying Light | Harness Magicka | Inner Light || Empowering Sweep
Back: Blockade of Storms | Blazing Spear | Ritual of Retribution | Degeneration | Elemental Drain || Thunderous Rage

One thing I noticed is that Radiant Glory doesn't seem to do a lot less damage than Radiant Oppression. I've compared at full magicka, against 15% target and the difference is only 5-700 damage per tick. It seems that the scaling on that skill is broken somehow, and the extra magicka doesn't really affect the damage as it should. In fact I've been getting more DPS out of Radiant Glory in practice, since it heals me and I don't have to cancel it when taking damage.

As for gear, I see you are using 5 Law of Julianos 5 Infallible Mage 1 Iceheart. I've thought about that, and I have the gear, most of it already upgraded, since it's what my sorc is using right now. But I've also come with an alternate gear setup, namely 5 Law of Julianos 4 Infallible Aether 2 Valkyn Skoria so I can run Whichmother's Potent Brew and still be above 17K health. I can't decide which is best. The extra recovery would allow a faster rotation, with more light attacks weaved with crushing shock in between Purifying Light casts, and of course more healing chances from Degeneration.

DeHei

Asardes wrote: »

I've come to about the same skills setup as the one in the video, the only notable difference being crushing shock instead of vampire's bane, since it's more suited for vMA where interrupts are necessary, especially ranged ones. My bar setup is:
Front: Radiant Glory | Crushing Shock | Purifying Light | Harness Magicka | Inner Light || Empowering Sweep
Back: Blockade of Storms | Blazing Spear | Ritual of Retribution | Degeneration | Elemental Drain || Thunderous Rage

One thing I noticed is that Radiant Glory doesn't seem to do a lot less damage than Radiant Oppression. I've compared at full magicka, against 15% target and the difference is only 5-700 damage per tick. It seems that the scaling on that skill is broken somehow, and the extra magicka doesn't really affect the damage as it should. In fact I've been getting more DPS out of Radiant Glory in practice, since it heals me and I don't have to cancel it when taking damage.

As for gear, I see you are using 5 Law of Julianos 5 Infallible Mage 1 Iceheart. I've thought about that, and I have the gear, most of it already upgraded, since it's what my sorc is using right now. But I've also come with an alternate gear setup, namely 5 Law of Julianos 4 Infallible Aether 2 Valkyn Skoria so I can run Whichmother's Potent Brew and still be above 17K health. I can't decide which is best. The extra recovery would allow a faster rotation, with more light attacks weaved with crushing shock in between Purifying Light casts, and of course more healing chances from Degeneration.

You switched one of the best dots for a spammable skill. This doesnt really make much sense for Templar, i think. 1 light attack and 1 vampires bane nearly kill all adds with under 40k life in vMSA. Interupt aren't a necessary thing. You kill all adds really fast, then you dont have trouble with it.
Another thing is, that you really dont need a finisher for vMSA. All common fights are really fast and bossfights ends allready in around 30seconds.

Asardes

DeHei wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

I've come to about the same skills setup as the one in the video, the only notable difference being crushing shock instead of vampire's bane, since it's more suited for vMA where interrupts are necessary, especially ranged ones. My bar setup is:
Front: Radiant Glory | Crushing Shock | Purifying Light | Harness Magicka | Inner Light || Empowering Sweep
Back: Blockade of Storms | Blazing Spear | Ritual of Retribution | Degeneration | Elemental Drain || Thunderous Rage

One thing I noticed is that Radiant Glory doesn't seem to do a lot less damage than Radiant Oppression. I've compared at full magicka, against 15% target and the difference is only 5-700 damage per tick. It seems that the scaling on that skill is broken somehow, and the extra magicka doesn't really affect the damage as it should. In fact I've been getting more DPS out of Radiant Glory in practice, since it heals me and I don't have to cancel it when taking damage.

As for gear, I see you are using 5 Law of Julianos 5 Infallible Mage 1 Iceheart. I've thought about that, and I have the gear, most of it already upgraded, since it's what my sorc is using right now. But I've also come with an alternate gear setup, namely 5 Law of Julianos 4 Infallible Aether 2 Valkyn Skoria so I can run Whichmother's Potent Brew and still be above 17K health. I can't decide which is best. The extra recovery would allow a faster rotation, with more light attacks weaved with crushing shock in between Purifying Light casts, and of course more healing chances from Degeneration.

You switched one of the best dots for a spammable skill. This doesnt really make much sense for Templar, i think. 1 light attack and 1 vampires bane nearly kill all adds with under 40k life in vMSA. Interupt aren't a necessary thing. You kill all adds really fast, then you dont have trouble with it.
Another thing is, that you really dont need a finisher for vMSA. All common fights are really fast and bossfights ends allready in around 30seconds.

I have the other morph, reflective light, which hits 3 targets. I guess I can move elemental drain on my front bar and get the passive from there and put reflective light on the backbar together with the other DoTs. But moving blockade on front bar wouldn't make much sense for me since I have Melstrom backbar.

DeHei

Asardes wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

I've come to about the same skills setup as the one in the video, the only notable difference being crushing shock instead of vampire's bane, since it's more suited for vMA where interrupts are necessary, especially ranged ones. My bar setup is:
Front: Radiant Glory | Crushing Shock | Purifying Light | Harness Magicka | Inner Light || Empowering Sweep
Back: Blockade of Storms | Blazing Spear | Ritual of Retribution | Degeneration | Elemental Drain || Thunderous Rage

One thing I noticed is that Radiant Glory doesn't seem to do a lot less damage than Radiant Oppression. I've compared at full magicka, against 15% target and the difference is only 5-700 damage per tick. It seems that the scaling on that skill is broken somehow, and the extra magicka doesn't really affect the damage as it should. In fact I've been getting more DPS out of Radiant Glory in practice, since it heals me and I don't have to cancel it when taking damage.

As for gear, I see you are using 5 Law of Julianos 5 Infallible Mage 1 Iceheart. I've thought about that, and I have the gear, most of it already upgraded, since it's what my sorc is using right now. But I've also come with an alternate gear setup, namely 5 Law of Julianos 4 Infallible Aether 2 Valkyn Skoria so I can run Whichmother's Potent Brew and still be above 17K health. I can't decide which is best. The extra recovery would allow a faster rotation, with more light attacks weaved with crushing shock in between Purifying Light casts, and of course more healing chances from Degeneration.

You switched one of the best dots for a spammable skill. This doesnt really make much sense for Templar, i think. 1 light attack and 1 vampires bane nearly kill all adds with under 40k life in vMSA. Interupt aren't a necessary thing. You kill all adds really fast, then you dont have trouble with it.
Another thing is, that you really dont need a finisher for vMSA. All common fights are really fast and bossfights ends allready in around 30seconds.

I have the other morph, reflective light, which hits 3 targets. I guess I can move elemental drain on my front bar and get the passive from there and put reflective light on the backbar together with the other DoTs. But moving blockade on front bar wouldn't make much sense for me since I have Melstrom backbar.

I really thought it makes no sense to put blockade on my mainbar too, but only this granted me the best rotation... in all other rotations i tryd i lost DPS.

NiclasFridholm

Asardes wrote: »

I've come to about the same skills setup as the one in the video, the only notable difference being crushing shock instead of vampire's bane, since it's more suited for vMA where interrupts are necessary, especially ranged ones. My bar setup is:
Front: Radiant Glory | Crushing Shock | Purifying Light | Harness Magicka | Inner Light || Empowering Sweep
Back: Blockade of Storms | Blazing Spear | Ritual of Retribution | Degeneration | Elemental Drain || Thunderous Rage

One thing I noticed is that Radiant Glory doesn't seem to do a lot less damage than Radiant Oppression. I've compared at full magicka, against 15% target and the difference is only 5-700 damage per tick. It seems that the scaling on that skill is broken somehow, and the extra magicka doesn't really affect the damage as it should. In fact I've been getting more DPS out of Radiant Glory in practice, since it heals me and I don't have to cancel it when taking damage.

As for gear, I see you are using 5 Law of Julianos 5 Infallible Mage 1 Iceheart. I've thought about that, and I have the gear, most of it already upgraded, since it's what my sorc is using right now. But I've also come with an alternate gear setup, namely 5 Law of Julianos 4 Infallible Aether 2 Valkyn Skoria so I can run Whichmother's Potent Brew and still be above 17K health. I can't decide which is best. The extra recovery would allow a faster rotation, with more light attacks weaved with crushing shock in between Purifying Light casts, and of course more healing chances from Degeneration.

About Radiant: You get the 20% bonus on the basedamage only so the damagemorph is broken since multiplication changes.

Asardes

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

I've come to about the same skills setup as the one in the video, the only notable difference being crushing shock instead of vampire's bane, since it's more suited for vMA where interrupts are necessary, especially ranged ones. My bar setup is:
Front: Radiant Glory | Crushing Shock | Purifying Light | Harness Magicka | Inner Light || Empowering Sweep
Back: Blockade of Storms | Blazing Spear | Ritual of Retribution | Degeneration | Elemental Drain || Thunderous Rage

One thing I noticed is that Radiant Glory doesn't seem to do a lot less damage than Radiant Oppression. I've compared at full magicka, against 15% target and the difference is only 5-700 damage per tick. It seems that the scaling on that skill is broken somehow, and the extra magicka doesn't really affect the damage as it should. In fact I've been getting more DPS out of Radiant Glory in practice, since it heals me and I don't have to cancel it when taking damage.

As for gear, I see you are using 5 Law of Julianos 5 Infallible Mage 1 Iceheart. I've thought about that, and I have the gear, most of it already upgraded, since it's what my sorc is using right now. But I've also come with an alternate gear setup, namely 5 Law of Julianos 4 Infallible Aether 2 Valkyn Skoria so I can run Whichmother's Potent Brew and still be above 17K health. I can't decide which is best. The extra recovery would allow a faster rotation, with more light attacks weaved with crushing shock in between Purifying Light casts, and of course more healing chances from Degeneration.

About Radiant: You get the 20% bonus on the basedamage only so the damagemorph is broken since multiplication changes.

Yea, heard Gilliam talk about Templar a few days ago and he mentioned that the bonus is additive instead of multiplicative with CP and other stuff, so it ends up being very small. Same goes for puncturing sweep single target damage, I really tried holding to that one since it's such an iconic skill, but I ended up dropping it since the damage is so low now. Every time I tried using it I drained my resources because I stayed in melee range, I took more damage and I had to spam it even harder, so it was a catch 22 kind of situation. I doubt they'll fix radiant though since people will scream their lungs out it's too strong in PvP. They've already decreased the overall damage by 20% once. I only use that skill as true finisher, I mean when the target has a tick of life left. For example in vMA I use it in the harder rounds to finish off the boss while ignoring some of the adds. vMA is the only content where I'd bring her as DD though, I play healer exclusively in group content. I'd rather bring my StamDK or Stam NB as DD in trials and dungeons since hitting 40-45K is almost effortless, I have better sustain (2W heavy attacks are quick), I'm more resistant (mainly due to blade cloak and the extra resistance medium has). The reason I still play vMA on Templar is the leaderboard is so short I get a shot at a free weapon and maybe an illusive Winterborn ring every week even if my performance is rather bad overall. Some runs were really harrowing and I ended up falling back to my PvP gear to be able to sustain - 5 Julianos 5 Amberplasm 2 Skoria with 2W - and then I kinda bastardized that by removing one Skoria, going with vMA staff backbar and Julianos front bar. I'll stick to that for a while until I learn my rotation and reduce the number of deaths. Repairius has been kind to me since it's impenetrable

Qbiken

Asardes wrote: »

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

I've come to about the same skills setup as the one in the video, the only notable difference being crushing shock instead of vampire's bane, since it's more suited for vMA where interrupts are necessary, especially ranged ones. My bar setup is:
Front: Radiant Glory | Crushing Shock | Purifying Light | Harness Magicka | Inner Light || Empowering Sweep
Back: Blockade of Storms | Blazing Spear | Ritual of Retribution | Degeneration | Elemental Drain || Thunderous Rage

One thing I noticed is that Radiant Glory doesn't seem to do a lot less damage than Radiant Oppression. I've compared at full magicka, against 15% target and the difference is only 5-700 damage per tick. It seems that the scaling on that skill is broken somehow, and the extra magicka doesn't really affect the damage as it should. In fact I've been getting more DPS out of Radiant Glory in practice, since it heals me and I don't have to cancel it when taking damage.

As for gear, I see you are using 5 Law of Julianos 5 Infallible Mage 1 Iceheart. I've thought about that, and I have the gear, most of it already upgraded, since it's what my sorc is using right now. But I've also come with an alternate gear setup, namely 5 Law of Julianos 4 Infallible Aether 2 Valkyn Skoria so I can run Whichmother's Potent Brew and still be above 17K health. I can't decide which is best. The extra recovery would allow a faster rotation, with more light attacks weaved with crushing shock in between Purifying Light casts, and of course more healing chances from Degeneration.

About Radiant: You get the 20% bonus on the basedamage only so the damagemorph is broken since multiplication changes.

Yea, heard Gilliam talk about Templar a few days ago and he mentioned that the bonus is additive instead of multiplicative with CP and other stuff, so it ends up being very small. Same goes for puncturing sweep single target damage, I really tried holding to that one since it's such an iconic skill, but I ended up dropping it since the damage is so low now. Every time I tried using it I drained my resources because I stayed in melee range, I took more damage and I had to spam it even harder, so it was a catch 22 kind of situation. I doubt they'll fix radiant though since people will scream their lungs out it's too strong in PvP. They've already decreased the overall damage by 20% once. I only use that skill as true finisher, I mean when the target has a tick of life left. For example in vMA I use it in the harder rounds to finish off the boss while ignoring some of the adds. vMA is the only content where I'd bring her as DD though, I play healer exclusively in group content. I'd rather bring my StamDK or Stam NB as DD in trials and dungeons since hitting 40-45K is almost effortless, I have better sustain (2W heavy attacks are quick), I'm more resistant (mainly due to blade cloak and the extra resistance medium has). The reason I still play vMA on Templar is the leaderboard is so short I get a shot at a free weapon and maybe an illusive Winterborn ring every week even if my performance is rather bad overall. Some runs were really harrowing and I ended up falling back to my PvP gear to be able to sustain - 5 Julianos 5 Amberplasm 2 Skoria with 2W - and then I kinda bastardized that by removing one Skoria, going with vMA staff backbar and Julianos front bar. I'll stick to that for a while until I learn my rotation and reduce the number of deaths. Repairius has been kind to me since it's impenetrable

@Asardes
Ohh, you´re also after those winterborn rings
Don´t get your hopes up, I´ve been having 5-7 characters on the weekly leaderboards for about 3 months now, only got 1 single winterborn ring (was lucky it was in arcane). So far got a golden necklace and a ring (in arcane as well). That last ring will be perfect for my magwarden

I´m also after a winterborn icestaff as well, calculated I´ve got 1/78 chance to get one (since I don´t care about the trait). Good thing I´ve the patience to grind and do content over and over again xD

mocap

So this day has come - Templar finaly forced to range distance
Still, a good news for healers

Meta is meta.

Asardes

Qbiken wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

I've come to about the same skills setup as the one in the video, the only notable difference being crushing shock instead of vampire's bane, since it's more suited for vMA where interrupts are necessary, especially ranged ones. My bar setup is:
Front: Radiant Glory | Crushing Shock | Purifying Light | Harness Magicka | Inner Light || Empowering Sweep
Back: Blockade of Storms | Blazing Spear | Ritual of Retribution | Degeneration | Elemental Drain || Thunderous Rage

One thing I noticed is that Radiant Glory doesn't seem to do a lot less damage than Radiant Oppression. I've compared at full magicka, against 15% target and the difference is only 5-700 damage per tick. It seems that the scaling on that skill is broken somehow, and the extra magicka doesn't really affect the damage as it should. In fact I've been getting more DPS out of Radiant Glory in practice, since it heals me and I don't have to cancel it when taking damage.

As for gear, I see you are using 5 Law of Julianos 5 Infallible Mage 1 Iceheart. I've thought about that, and I have the gear, most of it already upgraded, since it's what my sorc is using right now. But I've also come with an alternate gear setup, namely 5 Law of Julianos 4 Infallible Aether 2 Valkyn Skoria so I can run Whichmother's Potent Brew and still be above 17K health. I can't decide which is best. The extra recovery would allow a faster rotation, with more light attacks weaved with crushing shock in between Purifying Light casts, and of course more healing chances from Degeneration.

About Radiant: You get the 20% bonus on the basedamage only so the damagemorph is broken since multiplication changes.

Yea, heard Gilliam talk about Templar a few days ago and he mentioned that the bonus is additive instead of multiplicative with CP and other stuff, so it ends up being very small. Same goes for puncturing sweep single target damage, I really tried holding to that one since it's such an iconic skill, but I ended up dropping it since the damage is so low now. Every time I tried using it I drained my resources because I stayed in melee range, I took more damage and I had to spam it even harder, so it was a catch 22 kind of situation. I doubt they'll fix radiant though since people will scream their lungs out it's too strong in PvP. They've already decreased the overall damage by 20% once. I only use that skill as true finisher, I mean when the target has a tick of life left. For example in vMA I use it in the harder rounds to finish off the boss while ignoring some of the adds. vMA is the only content where I'd bring her as DD though, I play healer exclusively in group content. I'd rather bring my StamDK or Stam NB as DD in trials and dungeons since hitting 40-45K is almost effortless, I have better sustain (2W heavy attacks are quick), I'm more resistant (mainly due to blade cloak and the extra resistance medium has). The reason I still play vMA on Templar is the leaderboard is so short I get a shot at a free weapon and maybe an illusive Winterborn ring every week even if my performance is rather bad overall. Some runs were really harrowing and I ended up falling back to my PvP gear to be able to sustain - 5 Julianos 5 Amberplasm 2 Skoria with 2W - and then I kinda bastardized that by removing one Skoria, going with vMA staff backbar and Julianos front bar. I'll stick to that for a while until I learn my rotation and reduce the number of deaths. Repairius has been kind to me since it's impenetrable

@Asardes
Ohh, you´re also after those winterborn rings
Don´t get your hopes up, I´ve been having 5-7 characters on the weekly leaderboards for about 3 months now, only got 1 single winterborn ring (was lucky it was in arcane). So far got a golden necklace and a ring (in arcane as well). That last ring will be perfect for my magwarden

I´m also after a winterborn icestaff as well, calculated I´ve got 1/78 chance to get one (since I don´t care about the trait). Good thing I´ve the patience to grind and do content over and over again xD

I already got a ring and a necklace. I've noticed that leaderboard drops have a higher chance for jewelry. However I've yet to see pants from that set in the arena chests. It's a bit odd.

Saint_Bud

DeHei wrote: »

The only spammable for magicka classes seems to be force pulse in future... The good thing every class can use it together with the asylumstaff, but all class spammables look useless.. This is a point for PvE and PvP..
We have same amount of DPS all classes can reach, but a much more boring rotations and fights... not a good change in my eyes

The dk wip and nb funel health are good and much easier to sustain. I dont really know if forcepulce is the way to go for those 2 classes and also to get a perfect staff will be a hard.

Vaoh

Bugged Puncturing Sweeps (granted this build doesn't slot it), bugged Jesus Beam, and this specific build uses Entropy which is not optimal for DPS. Still putting out much more damage than a non-pet Mag Sorc. Also there is a chance that Purifying Light will deal extra damage in a trial since it will always hit its damage cap thanks to your allies.

Does this mean that non-pet Mag Sorc is actually the 2nd worst DPS spec atm, only surpassing Magicka Warden? I think I finally understand why ZOS finally made vMoL 1st/2nd boss and The Warrior more friendly toward pets in CwC. They intend for Mag Sorcs to always slot Volatile Familiar to be competitive. Unfortunately they still are horrible against The Mage and The Serpent, and attract AoE from St. Olms Storm of the Heavens in vAS.

NiclasFridholm

Vaoh wrote: »

Bugged Puncturing Sweeps (granted this build doesn't slot it), bugged Jesus Beam, and this specific build uses Entropy which is not optimal for DPS. Still putting out much more damage than a non-pet Mag Sorc. Also there is a chance that Purifying Light will deal extra damage in a trial since it will always hit its damage cap thanks to your allies.

Does this mean that non-pet Mag Sorc is actually the 2nd worst DPS spec atm, only surpassing Magicka Warden? I think I finally understand why ZOS finally made vMoL 1st/2nd boss and The Warrior more friendly toward pets in CwC. They intend for Mag Sorcs to always slot Volatile Familiar to be competitive. Unfortunately they still are horrible against The Mage and The Serpent, and attract AoE from St. Olms Storm of the Heavens in vAS.

Purifting light is bugged and cancels PoTL so dont use it in raids!

Qbiken

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Bugged Puncturing Sweeps (granted this build doesn't slot it), bugged Jesus Beam, and this specific build uses Entropy which is not optimal for DPS. Still putting out much more damage than a non-pet Mag Sorc. Also there is a chance that Purifying Light will deal extra damage in a trial since it will always hit its damage cap thanks to your allies.

Does this mean that non-pet Mag Sorc is actually the 2nd worst DPS spec atm, only surpassing Magicka Warden? I think I finally understand why ZOS finally made vMoL 1st/2nd boss and The Warrior more friendly toward pets in CwC. They intend for Mag Sorcs to always slot Volatile Familiar to be competitive. Unfortunately they still are horrible against The Mage and The Serpent, and attract AoE from St. Olms Storm of the Heavens in vAS.

Purifting light is bugged and cancels PoTL so dont use it in raids!

@NiclasFridholm I´m currently using an old BiS setup (5 Moondancer (swords +jewels) + 5 Julianos). What would you swap out PL for on the frontbar?? (I´ve on my frontbar: Sweeps, Vampire bane, inner light, Purifying Light, Radiant, Shooting star)

NiclasFridholm

Qbiken wrote: »

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Bugged Puncturing Sweeps (granted this build doesn't slot it), bugged Jesus Beam, and this specific build uses Entropy which is not optimal for DPS. Still putting out much more damage than a non-pet Mag Sorc. Also there is a chance that Purifying Light will deal extra damage in a trial since it will always hit its damage cap thanks to your allies.

Does this mean that non-pet Mag Sorc is actually the 2nd worst DPS spec atm, only surpassing Magicka Warden? I think I finally understand why ZOS finally made vMoL 1st/2nd boss and The Warrior more friendly toward pets in CwC. They intend for Mag Sorcs to always slot Volatile Familiar to be competitive. Unfortunately they still are horrible against The Mage and The Serpent, and attract AoE from St. Olms Storm of the Heavens in vAS.

Purifting light is bugged and cancels PoTL so dont use it in raids!

@NiclasFridholm I´m currently using an old BiS setup (5 Moondancer (swords +jewels) + 5 Julianos). What would you swap out PL for on the frontbar?? (I´ve on my frontbar: Sweeps, Vampire bane, inner light, Purifying Light, Radiant, Shooting star)

Tbh I gave up on Magplar last night, we are stuck in a Sorc/NB playstyle so might aswell main one! Wish I could give you some advice but the harsh truth is that Melee Magplars are pretty dead in end game raiding.

Qbiken

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Bugged Puncturing Sweeps (granted this build doesn't slot it), bugged Jesus Beam, and this specific build uses Entropy which is not optimal for DPS. Still putting out much more damage than a non-pet Mag Sorc. Also there is a chance that Purifying Light will deal extra damage in a trial since it will always hit its damage cap thanks to your allies.

Does this mean that non-pet Mag Sorc is actually the 2nd worst DPS spec atm, only surpassing Magicka Warden? I think I finally understand why ZOS finally made vMoL 1st/2nd boss and The Warrior more friendly toward pets in CwC. They intend for Mag Sorcs to always slot Volatile Familiar to be competitive. Unfortunately they still are horrible against The Mage and The Serpent, and attract AoE from St. Olms Storm of the Heavens in vAS.

Purifting light is bugged and cancels PoTL so dont use it in raids!

@NiclasFridholm I´m currently using an old BiS setup (5 Moondancer (swords +jewels) + 5 Julianos). What would you swap out PL for on the frontbar?? (I´ve on my frontbar: Sweeps, Vampire bane, inner light, Purifying Light, Radiant, Shooting star)

Tbh I gave up on Magplar last night, we are stuck in a Sorc/NB playstyle so might aswell main one! Wish I could give you some advice but the harsh truth is that Melee Magplars are pretty dead in end game raiding.

@NiclasFridholm
RIP, I guess I´ll go back to my magicka DK then.....ohh wait.....

Vaoh

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Bugged Puncturing Sweeps (granted this build doesn't slot it), bugged Jesus Beam, and this specific build uses Entropy which is not optimal for DPS. Still putting out much more damage than a non-pet Mag Sorc. Also there is a chance that Purifying Light will deal extra damage in a trial since it will always hit its damage cap thanks to your allies.

Does this mean that non-pet Mag Sorc is actually the 2nd worst DPS spec atm, only surpassing Magicka Warden? I think I finally understand why ZOS finally made vMoL 1st/2nd boss and The Warrior more friendly toward pets in CwC. They intend for Mag Sorcs to always slot Volatile Familiar to be competitive. Unfortunately they still are horrible against The Mage and The Serpent, and attract AoE from St. Olms Storm of the Heavens in vAS.

Purifting light is bugged and cancels PoTL so dont use it in raids!

@NiclasFridholm Wow lol. Ty for the info.