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Would u sacrifice those to have ESO Botfree?

Getern
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After first bot war after launch we had ~1,5 years of game without bots or at least visible. Zose doesn't really care about taking actions right now. What could be done tho:
1. Remove Craftbag - all u have to do now is to pay subscription for endless materials storage. I guess it's worth it for gold sellers. Still profitable for Zose.
2. Remove level scalling - that made 1-5 zones really botfriendly environment. Bots started appearing again after One Tamriel Patch. Coincidence?
3. Allow to get endgame material in zones, where bots can't really handle, at least without certain investment in gear or time required for getting higher ranks/CP.

I am aware that all those were sort of a gamechangers but they were also botfriendly.
Edited by Getern on October 5, 2017 8:09PM

Would u sacrifice those to have ESO Botfree? 199 votes

Yes
6%
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No
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  • doslekis
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    No
    Nobody's takin my craft bag away

    Edit to add, bots have been in every mmo I've ever played. As long as they don't change the way I play the game I could care less.
    Edited by doslekis on October 5, 2017 8:21PM
    I don't normally use daggers, but when I do, I choose dos Lekis.
  • Keldheir
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    No
    I hardly ever buy anything off a guild trader and I don't sell, so bots don't have a negative impact on my gaming expecience. I read a lot about bot trains but I've seen only a single bot in the last few years. Also, for me the removal of the crafting bag would be a reason to consider leaving ESO or taking a long break. Not too long ago I had to play without a subscription for two weeks and it felt tedious. Punishing. Never again. I just got used to level scaling, so I'd rather not have that changed again. Also I don't want endgame material in zones filled with uber hard mobs only. I want my ore and flower-picking runs to be mindless and relaxing.
    So... No. I wouldn't sacrifice anything for a bot-free ESO.
    PC EU
  • DMuehlhausen
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    No
    As soon as I saw remove Craft Bag answer was no.

    That bag is worth a double price monthly sub to me lol
  • Getern
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    Yes
    Keldheir wrote: »
    I hardly ever buy anything off a guild trader and I don't sell, so bots don't have a negative impact on my gaming expecience. I read a lot about bot trains but I've seen only a single bot in the last few years. Also, for me the removal of the crafting bag would be a reason to consider leaving ESO or taking a long break. Not too long ago I had to play without a subscription for two weeks and it felt tedious. Punishing. Never again. I just got used to level scaling, so I'd rather not have that changed again. Also I don't want endgame material in zones filled with uber hard mobs only. I want my ore and flower-picking runs to be mindless and relaxing.
    So... No. I wouldn't sacrifice anything for a bot-free ESO.

    I see u really went Super Casual with this. That's sad...
  • Patches760
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    No
    Craft bag is love, craft bag is life. Without my craft bag, I am lost and afraid, searching for an answer as to where I am supposed to store the thousands of grocery items and various runes spilling out of my inventory.

    In all seriousness though, I saw a solution in another thread that seemed fairly simple, have a game master come in to high traffic bot zones and start banning away. ez pz only problem as OP stated is giving ZOS a reason to care.
  • Alpheu5
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    No
    Making the game itself harder for bots in turn makes it harder for actual players. There's a reason you see bot trains taking on weak trash mobs in the wilderness and not world bosses.
    Dalek-Rok - Argonian Sorcerer || Dalek-Shād - Argonian Nightblade || Dalek-Shul - Argonian Templar || Dalek-Xal - Argonian Dragonknight || Mounts-the-Snout - Argonian Warden || Dalek-Xul - Argonian Necromancer || Two-Spires - Argonian Arcanist || Dalek-Nesh - Argonian Sorcerer || Dalek-Kör - Argonian Dragonknight
    Don't incorporate bugs into your builds, and you won't have [an] issue.
  • EvilCroc
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    No
    And again, who really cares about bots? They do nothing bad for majority of players. Prices? Dolmen leveling? Pfff, nothing interesting at all. I will not sacrifice even 1 gold for resolving so called "bot problem"
  • Nestor
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    Thing is, Bots are so obvious to anyone who looks at them for 5 seconds. We really just need ZOS to respond to reports (which will encourage people to make more) and slam the BanHammer on them. And not just a 72 hour ban, but a clean the bank out, clean out the inventory, remove the guild listings, disable permanently the account banhammer. Call it a Ban Sledge if you will.
    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • Alpheu5
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    No
    #NestorForGM
    Dalek-Rok - Argonian Sorcerer || Dalek-Shād - Argonian Nightblade || Dalek-Shul - Argonian Templar || Dalek-Xal - Argonian Dragonknight || Mounts-the-Snout - Argonian Warden || Dalek-Xul - Argonian Necromancer || Two-Spires - Argonian Arcanist || Dalek-Nesh - Argonian Sorcerer || Dalek-Kör - Argonian Dragonknight
    Don't incorporate bugs into your builds, and you won't have [an] issue.
  • pod88kk
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    No
    Not a chance you're taking my craft bag
  • static_recharge
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    No
    Absolutely not. This won't stop the bots anyway, just make it harder for us to play the game we enjoy.
  • Lexxypwns
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    No
    I don't think a lot of people know this, but I'm just gonna tell the story anyway. So, about 1.5 years ago ESO admins banned a TON of accounts for botting in conjunction with gold selling(RMT). Shortly after, ESO had a major DDoS(and possibly other security breaches) against several of its servers, the game was virtually unplayable for almost a week. Its believed that DDoS attack was retaliation for interfering with the RMT business.

    Since that specific incident they've all but stopped banning bots and things are running out of control.
  • Eddyble
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    No
    Players shouldn't have to sacrifice anything to play a game bot free.

    That having been said, they don't really bother me or prevent me from playing. Then again, I'm on console where it's not as bad.
    Eddyb1e - Xbox One - NA
    Eddyble - PC - NA
  • Mojmir
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    No
    Only sacrifice should be move the crown crate team into the GM team
  • Rouven
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    Don't ban the bots, just isolate them. That way they run for nothing for a while.

    Other than that why would I sacrifice anything? ZOS can sacrifice some profit, hire more people and git er done.

    Edit: Bad grammar o:)
    Edited by Rouven on October 5, 2017 9:13PM
    Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. ~ Terry Pratchett
  • Rohaus
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    Why do bots bother people so much????
    YouTube channel Rohaus Lives!
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  • Necomis
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    As much as people post about them. I have yet to see a single one in game or see anything in chat. Which seems odd as I see that in every MMO.
  • Heroeric1337
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    No
    Is this really a question?
  • Apache_Kid
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    No
    Or they could just like, you know, police the game like they are supposed to. Imagine thinking I would ever give up the craft bag. Miss me with that
  • WreckfulAbandon
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    How are you gonna suggest getting rid of craft bag... lol

    As much as I miss it I'm not going to begrudge others who still have it because they pay money to subscribe.
    PC NA

    All my comments are regarding PvP
  • CheepsNSalsa
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    No
    Im cp 650, have been playing the game for at least 2 years and have never once seen a bot unless you count gold sellers in zone chat or the random player trying to sell 450x dreugh wax for under market price. I feel like the only people complaining about bots are people who make money off of mats. As far as I'm concerned, paying 200g for a Columbine vs 500g is a win for me.
  • EvilAutoTech
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    Yes
    At first I thought you can have my craft bag when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. Then I remembered how much fun I had when I first got the game and thought "Never been a big fan of level scaling, and it didn't really bother me to have to head to Craglorn, Wrothgar or the Gold Coast for my high end mats. Having to trudge back to town to offload plunder has always been TES. I love my craftbag but it's not like I need it.

    Wait, touch my craftbag and lose your face.
  • FoolishHuman
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    No
    I very rarely see bots, I've never seen a goldseller ad in chat and the economy of the game seems to be stable and healthy. I really don't see any reason to take such drastic actions.
  • Belegnole
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    No
    I'm already paying ZOS to do their job. Why would I give them more, when they're not doing it now.
  • grannas211
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    No
    Cash me outside with dat giving up my craft bag nonsense.
  • KRBMMO
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    No
    The solution is just to have some randomly appearing or "wandering" monsters as strong as say a troll but without an area tether and not distracted by other characters afk for example. If you get their attention they will hunt you and only you until you deal with them.

    That would solve the bot problem.
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Seeing bots running around looks kinda funny, but personally never bothered me at all.

    At any rate I haven't seen a single bot since ESO Launch in 2014.
  • PlagueSD
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    No
    Getern wrote: »
    After first bot war after launch we had ~1,5 years of game without bots or at least visible. Zose doesn't really care about taking actions right now. What could be done tho:
    1. Remove Craftbag - all u have to do now is to pay subscription for endless materials storage. I guess it's worth it for gold sellers. Still profitable for Zos.
    It's already like this. You only get access to deposit items into the crafting bag if you're and ESO+ member.
    2. Remove level scalling - that made 1-5 zones really botfriendly environment. Bots started appearing again after One Tamriel Patch. Coincidence?

    Probably never going to happen. I actually like farming the noob areas when I need mats. No one is there.
    3. Allow to get endgame material in zones, where bots can't really handle, at least without certain investment in gear or time required for getting higher ranks/CP.

    Not needed. I like the current system of mats drop based off of your crafting skill and player level skill. (See response to #2)

    Edited by PlagueSD on October 5, 2017 10:22PM
  • rustic_potato
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    No
    It is ZOS' job to remove bots not ours. I personally don't care about botting. If I have to give up QOL for botting the answer is LOL NO..
    I play how I want to.


  • phairdon
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    No
    Nestor wrote: »
    Thing is, Bots are so obvious to anyone who looks at them for 5 seconds. We really just need ZOS to respond to reports (which will encourage people to make more) and slam the BanHammer on them. And not just a 72 hour ban, but a clean the bank out, clean out the inventory, remove the guild listings, disable permanently the account banhammer. Call it a Ban Sledge if you will.

    Amen.
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