Skillpoint from morrowind tutorial unobtainable for toons created before morrowind. Change please?

Shadzilla

It is pretty unfair IMO that toons created prior to the launch of morrowind are handicapped and restricted to 1 less skillpoint than toons created after morrowind's launch. I am aware there are probably some people out there that could care less, and that is fine. Coming from my perspective, with my main having close to 350 skill points, it is pretty sad that one point from the morrowind tutorial is unreachable... I doubt this would take much coding to fix, hoping with enough responses that @ZOS might look into it. Leave comments to bump the thread.

CalydorEstalon

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

There is no reason whatsoever that I can think of to keep this one skillpoint locked away just because you've played for a long time.

Aliyavana

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

We have had this issue since morrowind beta and zos never fixed it and I doubt they will do it now sadly. as a completionist this skillpoint matters to me even though I have 340ish skillpoints.

Also this thread is going to be attacked like the one I made before by the "its only a skillpoint get over it" crowd when they don't understand that different playstyles exist

explaination: if you do the morrowind tutorial on a new character, you are granted a skillpoint at the end of it and after they leave vvardenfell they can do the wailing prison for another skillpoint as well. Existing characters cannot do the morrowind tutorial so are locked out of a skillpoint. So perfectionists would have to create a new character in morrowind so they are not locked out of one skillpoint. This was reported in the beta by me and many others and still it remains an issue. the goal to get every skillpoint in the game remains impossible all because you created a character before morrowind existed.

Squeaky_Clean

Biased poll. Lacks the option "I don't care about a single, measly skill point".

platonicidealgirlfriend

this will be the sixth time we've created this thread and we've become exceedingly efficient at it.

post-mw toons get one tutorial skill point, not both.

Aliyavana

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

Squeaky_Clean wrote: »

Biased poll. Lacks the option "I don't care about a single, measly skill point".

see what I mean? as I said the idc crowd is coming and is going to flame this thread. they will say zos has more important things to do and then from there they will say one skill point wont make a difference when you have 300plus skillpoints when they don't understand that completionism is a playstyle that exists weither they care about it or not

Aliyavana

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

platonicidealgirlfriend wrote: »

this will be the sixth time we've created this thread and we've become exceedingly efficient at it.

post-mw toons get tutorial one skill point, not both.

you obviously havnt tested it

"if you do the morrowind tutorial on a new character, you are granted a skillpoint at the end of it and after they leave vvardenfell they can do the wailing prison for another skillpoint as well. Existing characters cannot do the morrowind tutorial so are locked out of a skillpoint. So perfectionists would have to create a new character in morrowind so they are not locked out of one skillpoint. This was reported in the beta by me and many others and still it remains an issue. the goal to get every skillpoint in the game remains impossible all because you created a character before morrowind existed"

I have beta morrowind players like @enodoc and others that have tested and commented on it and we have tested this on live and your claim is false, you do get both tutorial skillpoints if you own morrowind and create a morrowind character and do both skillpoints. zos neither commented on beta and on live and that is sucky as we told them about this issue before it made it to live servers

Shadzilla

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

aliyavana wrote: »

platonicidealgirlfriend wrote: »

this will be the sixth time we've created this thread and we've become exceedingly efficient at it.

post-mw toons get tutorial one skill point, not both.

you obviously havnt tested it

"if you do the morrowind tutorial on a new character, you are granted a skillpoint at the end of it and after they leave vvardenfell they can do the wailing prison for another skillpoint as well. Existing characters cannot do the morrowind tutorial so are locked out of a skillpoint. So perfectionists would have to create a new character in morrowind so they are not locked out of one skillpoint. This was reported in the beta by me and many others and still it remains an issue. the goal to get every skillpoint in the game remains impossible all because you created a character before morrowind existed"

I have beta morrowind players like @enodoc and others that have tested and commented on it and we have tested this on live and your claim is false, you do get both tutorial skillpoints if you own morrowind and create a morrowind character and do both skillpoints. zos neither commented on beta and on live and that is sucky as we told them about this issue before it made it to live servers

@platonicidealgirlfriend this is a well known issue that @ZOS just ignores. It has been tested, many times.

Aliyavana

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

@ZOS_GinaBruno

theher0not

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

They should allow pre Morrowind character to do the new tutorial as a quest just as how post Morrowind characters can do the Wailing Prison.

Cously

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

Allow us to take part in the tutorial quest. I can be annoying and say people paid for Morrowind and only have one character didn't get to experience all the content they paid for :P

Elwendryll

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

While you're at it, also ask for the 2 mage guild skill points.

Cously

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

Elwendryll wrote: »

While you're at it, also ask for the 2 mage guild skill points.

Damn right. I went good guy mode to save that altmer ***** and didn't realize I'd pass on those sweet points. How could I know?! It's the single quest in the game that has such choice.

Enslaved

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

Give us skill point, we PAYED for it! Euros, Dinars, Dolars, Yens, you name it, we payed for it and we deserve to get these points.

Riejael

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure there's more than enough skill points to go around and fill in every skill and morph and passive available for a character including Vamp/WW if you go with that.

Bobby_V_Rockit

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

Riejael wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure there's more than enough skill points to go around and fill in every skill and morph and passive available for a character including Vamp/WW if you go with that.

You are wrong. There are not enough to unlock everything.

ADarklore

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

I have a feeling they will do this exact same thing with the next 'chapter' as well... create another 'tutorial' and give new characters an extra skill point... therefore screwing over existing characters once again. The fact that they haven't commented demonstrates that it IS intended, most controversial things that they intend they rarely ever discuss.

I think from their perspective, as a for-profit company, is that giving extra incentive to create new characters garners them more money over time compared to an existing character.

Aliyavana

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

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Lyserus

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

Remember the ppl who voted nay guys, remember

Shadzilla

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

Riejael wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure there's more than enough skill points to go around and fill in every skill and morph and passive available for a character including Vamp/WW if you go with that.

You could not be more wrong, I have 350ish and I have to redo skillpoints whenever I make a major change.... You have been corrected.

Waffennacht

There's no reason not to fix it.

Doubt it though

Enodoc

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

ADarklore wrote: »

I have a feeling they will do this exact same thing with the next 'chapter' as well... create another 'tutorial' and give new characters an extra skill point... therefore screwing over existing characters once again. The fact that they haven't commented demonstrates that it IS intended, most controversial things that they intend they rarely ever discuss.

It's not intended, and they said it wasn't intended, but they're not going to fix it now.

theher0not wrote: »

They should allow pre Morrowind character to do the new tutorial as a quest just as how post Morrowind characters can do the Wailing Prison.

Cously wrote: »

Allow us to take part in the tutorial quest. I can be annoying and say people paid for Morrowind and only have one character didn't get to experience all the content they paid for :P

Agreed. This is the obvious and relatively-easy-to-implement solution. I have a thread about how to do that over here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/discussion/358647/two-tutorials-two-skill-points-two-quests-two-solutions It had all of 6 replies

Elwendryll wrote: »

While you're at it, also ask for the 2 mage guild skill points.

I think that's slightly different. That was a conscious choice that you made for your character. This, on the other hand, is something that you can't control.

Deheart

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

LOL, Yes we should get the skill point, but really, in the end does it make any difference to end game?

fgoron2000

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

....orrrrr....simply remove one of the skill points from the new post-MW created chars.They may be able to do both tutorials, but give 1 point total?

Nyladreas

This is really dumb lol. I complained about not being able to do the tutorial as an old character. That pisses me right off. But a skillpoint? What the hell people.

Nestor

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

You are wrong. There are not enough to unlock everything.

Yes there is, all you need to do is respec.

PlagueSD

theher0not wrote: »

They should allow pre Morrowind character to do the new tutorial as a quest just as how post Morrowind characters are FORCED to do the Wailing Prison.

They need to fix that. or at least allow us to skip it.

Jhalin

As far as i'm aware the tutorial quest is still there even if you skip doing the tutorial. For morrowind is when you're asked to investigate the lighthouse and free the slaves from Firemoth Island

Vrienda

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

ZOS please give us this skill point. My character feels incomplete without it.

Vrienda

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

Riejael wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure there's more than enough skill points to go around and fill in every skill and morph and passive available for a character including Vamp/WW if you go with that.

Maybe with PvP skill points (Though I doubt it), but without that there's not.

Shadzilla

Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!

Vrienda wrote: »

Riejael wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure there's more than enough skill points to go around and fill in every skill and morph and passive available for a character including Vamp/WW if you go with that.

Maybe with PvP skill points (Though I doubt it), but without that there's not.

Nestor wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

You are wrong. There are not enough to unlock everything.

Yes there is, all you need to do is respec.

There is no way fathomable to unlock everything, unless you respec. When you respec with 350 skill points, its not fun either... If I were to estimate, It would take roughly 600-700 skill points to unlock every skill on one toon. I welcome anyone that has the time to add up how many points it would require to unlock everything on one toon. @aliyavana looking at you buddy.