Things are getting scary.

Eyesinthedrk

PvPers are getting bored with the game. Fighting Tanky zergs on the way to tear down and rebuild the same keeps over and over again for two years. It's just not fun for them any more.

PvEers are quitting. The sustain nerfs from morrowind have forced people to wear gear and play a style they never really wanted to play. So they don't. It's just not fun anymore.

Then the people like me that are left are struggling to put a group togeather to do anything because the first two left. So we're running pug groups just for something to do. Thats fine for here and there, but when it's all I do it gets boring too. So I end up shutting off the game earlier and earlier every day. Because it's just not fun anymore.

Like I said, things are getting scary

JD2013

Define "scary"

SoLooney

d2 really made things bad for end game raiders like me. getting a solid core 12 people to run vmol vhof is painful enough, then they all move on and replacing experienced ppl is a hassle.

not only that, lag is so painful, rubber banding, horrible frames and by that time mechanics killed you. not really fun anymore, cant really say for pvp. all i know is, i will not do bg anymore if cp is a thing

Smmokkee

Eyesinthedrk wrote: »

PvPers are getting bored with the game. Fighting Tanky zergs on the way to tear down and rebuild the same keeps over and over again for two years. It's just not fun for them any more.

PvEers are quitting. The sustain nerfs from morrowind have forced people to wear gear and play a style they never really wanted to play. So they don't. It's just not fun anymore.

Then the people like me that are left are struggling to put a group togeather to do anything because the first two left. So we're running pug groups just for something to do. Thats fine for here and there, but when it's all I do it gets boring too. So I end up shutting off the game earlier and earlier every day. Because it's just not fun anymore.

Like I said, things are getting scary

As an avid pvp player I havent played in months.. and, I was way over it when I was playing. Probably havent played seriously in 6 months. Everything I loved about the pvp has been destroyed.

Integral1900

Come over to see us in pve land, it's a bit crowded but pull up a dungeon and make yourself comfy

Shardan4968

There's not much content for PvP. Cyrodiil can be boring after a month of playing, IC is obviously dead, because ZOS don't do anything to keep it alive and BG will become crap soon with unkillable tanky builds (especially If you are non-meta player).

Cpt_Teemo

JD2013 wrote: »

Define "scary"

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Brutusmax1mus

Good changes are coming on pts. I personally pvp everyday, love it. But i pvp for combat, not for taking keeps over ave over in zergs. That gets old very fast.

My only complaints at this point are permanent blocking and the lag, latencies and bug issues.

Once they make a nerf like holding block for 4 or more seconds begins to drain your stamina, increasing with each second, the game will be better.

kargen27

Eyesinthedrk wrote: »

PvPers are getting bored with the game. Fighting Tanky zergs on the way to tear down and rebuild the same keeps over and over again for two years. It's just not fun for them any more.

PvEers are quitting. The sustain nerfs from morrowind have forced people to wear gear and play a style they never really wanted to play. So they don't. It's just not fun anymore.

Then the people like me that are left are struggling to put a group togeather to do anything because the first two left. So we're running pug groups just for something to do. Thats fine for here and there, but when it's all I do it gets boring too. So I end up shutting off the game earlier and earlier every day. Because it's just not fun anymore.

Like I said, things are getting scary

I'd believe this if I could enter a delve and not see other players sprinting past me on their way to quickly kill the boss, or if I could do a public dungeon without having to wait for bosses to appear and hope I get a hit in before those farming the boss bring him down. Certain zones getting a hit in on a dolman boss is among one of the hardest things to do in game. See a Columbine and unless you are way way off the beaten path you better sprint for it.

I will admit I am doing group activity with different people than I was when I started. Was in one guild doing trials that kinda fell apart but joined another that is running something almost nightly. Still a lot of players doing group stuff you just need to look around a bit.

generalmyrick

Eyesinthedrk wrote: »

PvPers are getting bored with the game. Fighting Tanky zergs on the way to tear down and rebuild the same keeps over and over again for two years. It's just not fun for them any more.

PvEers are quitting. The sustain nerfs from morrowind have forced people to wear gear and play a style they never really wanted to play. So they don't. It's just not fun anymore.

Then the people like me that are left are struggling to put a group togeather to do anything because the first two left. So we're running pug groups just for something to do. Thats fine for here and there, but when it's all I do it gets boring too. So I end up shutting off the game earlier and earlier every day. Because it's just not fun anymore.

Like I said, things are getting scary

a buddy of mine quit and said something similar. he was in a stage after yours i think, too many people leaving caused him to have to try and meet new people and figure out who knows what they are doing and who is full of it.

Jhalin

It really is a dull game once you reach endgame. PvP has no sense of progression, it's essentially "biggest group wins" and the only really reason to go to Cyro seems to be getting AP for motifs to resell. PvE is alive to an extent, but the drive for vet content seems to have disappeared. Combat was fun before Morrowind, now it's all micromanaging and giving yourself carpal tunnel practicing rotations if you want to have a snowball's chance in hell of completing vet trials.

New players still have the new-game hype in their system. There's story content left to do, new places to go, but veteran players don't have that outside of the few hours of new we get from DLCs. Beyond that, it's just an endless grind that goes nowhere.

Axoinus

OP is on PS4. Different culture - Different performance - Different priorities - Almost a different game.

Alexandrious

D0PAMINE

I cant find anyone to do pledges or trials with anymore. My friends list is so empty of active players, and those who are new on my list are still learning basic mechanics in general.

Drakkdjinn

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

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Alexandrious

JD2013 wrote: »

Define "scary"

Cpt_Teemo

Drakkdjinn wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

Define "scary"

IT got nothing on Teemo

ChunkyCat

I'm scared of sea monsters. Seriously, I don't like swimming in the ocean. Even brushing up against seaweed freaks me out.

I like swimming pools. Clean. Good visibility. No monsters trying to eat my legs.

Rohamad_Ali

ChunkyCat wrote: »

I'm scared of sea monsters. Seriously, I don't like swimming in the ocean. Even brushing up against seaweed freaks me out.

I like swimming pools. Clean. Good visibility. No monsters trying to eat my legs.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KG1CjFoX-8E

Rainraven

One of my guilds folded after Morrowind. One has had a notable drop in activity. And one - mine, the one I built - lost 2/3 of its active players and no longer really does events or group activities.

But the trading guilds are still going strong. Hooray.

Publius_Scipio

BOO!!!!!

Mashille

Can confirm. I'm a PvP player and haven't actually played in months. I log on for 10 - 30 mins maybe once every 2 weeks but the game is pretty much dead for me and, I assume, other players similar to me.

I don't see any Dlc that will bring me back anytime soon either. They would have to released something pretty major like Swell Crafting or something to get me engaged again.

kargen27

ChunkyCat wrote: »

I'm scared of sea monsters. Seriously, I don't like swimming in the ocean. Even brushing up against seaweed freaks me out.

I like swimming pools. Clean. Good visibility. No monsters trying to eat my legs.

wolfxspice

sorry i'v been playing ark lately, maybe i'll come back after the clockwork patch because i'll be able to change my maelstrom inferno into NOT defending, you know because 2 years of grinding gets you 2 defending inferno staffs, or you know maybe i wont, i don't know why i'm on this forum honestly.

Nogawd

JD2013 wrote: »

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ArchMikem

Eyesinthedrk wrote: »

PvPers are getting bored with the game. Fighting Tanky zergs on the way to tear down and rebuild the same keeps over and over again for two years. It's just not fun for them any more.

That's why I never have the desire to PvP. I don't have characters with PvP Builds, and I can only get steamrolled on my squishy characters so many times before I crack.

PvE though I think is fine....enough. It's a bit difficult finding Trial groups that form from the public and not from established guilds, but I think the population is still high.

Krayzie

The MAIN problem with PVP is everyone has 30k+ health in heavy armor, everyones a tank and you simply don't stand a chance when out numbered unless they're bad players.

Like look what they did to resources, bubbled into negates effectively killing off solo players and promoting group play their servers can't handle.

Betsararie

What I have said before is ZOS is either intentionally trying to make the game worse (for reasons unknown), or simply doesn't know the direction to take the game (at all).

The Morrowind sustain nerfs were a legendarily bad idea, made the game less enjoyable with no noticeable upside. The game plays slower now and is overall less enjoyable. No problems were fixed.

BGs could've been something that could've helped PvP, but it was implemented so insanely badly that nobody plays, which I understand. Since it lacks incredibly basic features necessary for the game mode.

I would also agree that CP PvP is basically a ** show right now and in a terrible place.

They need to make game play more enjoyable again, something closer to how the game played a year ago, and adjust the meta away from unkillable tank builds that are not enjoyable to play along or against whatsoever.

Saturn

Eyesinthedrk wrote: »

PvPers are getting bored with the game. Fighting Tanky zergs on the way to tear down and rebuild the same keeps over and over again for two years. It's just not fun for them any more.

PvEers are quitting. The sustain nerfs from morrowind have forced people to wear gear and play a style they never really wanted to play. So they don't. It's just not fun anymore.

Then the people like me that are left are struggling to put a group togeather to do anything because the first two left. So we're running pug groups just for something to do. Thats fine for here and there, but when it's all I do it gets boring too. So I end up shutting off the game earlier and earlier every day. Because it's just not fun anymore.

Like I said, things are getting scary

The Morrowind patch ruined PvE for sure, the only thing I enjoy playing is my stamina dk now, and all my other toons are really boring/frustrating. Pretty much since Morrowind came out I've only logged on an average of once every 2 weeks, which is mostly out of obligation to my guilds and such.

Clockwork City aren't really fixing any of the problems that are currently discouraging people from playing, so it won't keep people playing for long before it returns to the same situation we have right now.

I do think battlegrounds are pretty solid for pvp though, but that's about it.

It would be nice if they find some way of making at least the PvE portion fun again, since Cyrodiil will likely never change and always be a broken repetitive mess.

icontrive

I would say even on these forums numbers are down. The amount of post and comments are lower than they were 6 months ago. People are moving on. This is what happens when you don’t communicate with your player base.

Eyesinthedrk

JD2013 wrote: »

Define "scary"

scary is when the friends you've made over the last two years are slowly disappearing. And the thought of starting over after two years doesn't seem worth it.