Next class: Necromancer, or Daedra!?

Personofsecrets

Dramora!

Osteos

Neither.

Anti_Virus

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

Warden does have some cancerous abilities in pvp

Wardens birds aren't wrecking the PVP experience...

brandonv516

No new classes. More depth to the skill lines within each class first.

Mettaricana

Probly never see a new race but id like at least 5 more classes

Nighn_9

well there was a skill mined that is an ultimate called summon daedra

Ankael07

Necromancer with a lot of debuffs to healing, damage and resistance.
Oh and instead of clunky pets the class spells should have spirit animations like Karthus

tplink3r1

Daedra is not a class and not a race.

HairyFairy

Stovahkiin wrote: »

Neither would make any sense.. why would we become a necromancer when Mannimarco (the main enemy of the game aside from Moly Baly) is a necromancer in a cult of necromancers?

Don't even get me started on daedra..

There were some good daedra that helped us.

HairyFairy

y'all are too inside of the box, never mind.

MakoFore

no more classes. whoever designed the original classes and the new guy? clearly a differnt person- theres levels to this...

the original four classes- are consistent - thematically, elementally, stylistically, lore wise, etc- most of all- they look cool with their skills, be it an ambush out of cloak, a DK stomping for igneous, a sorc screaming as they summon hurricane, or a templar drawing souls with repentence. they each look badass. Warden? oh my. when i first heard a ranger like class- i had high hopes- but to make it a summoner/ranger is just weak. the class has a floating octapus following behind it...lame..
the wings are okay- the cliff racer looks okay- but then they make the hardest hitting ability a row of netches- i mean really? how is that the best of someones imagination as to a weapon that will instill fear and awe. it looks like something out of the pet crown crates- oh wait- it is. they had the right idea- using nature, using the ice and water- but they were inconsistent in the delivery and were too diverse in the implementation. and thats just the look and feel of it. in terms of balance- forget about it.

so please- no more new classes- til they can get it right on the old ones.

generalmyrick

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

Warden does have some cancerous abilities in pvp

Theres many cancerous abilities and builds in pvp... Shield ulti and soul assault arent better than warden abilities.
And actually, the only reason why warden has undodgeable attack is because ZOS intentionally made its animation so slow that no one would get hit by it if it was dodgeable.
They've built the class to look "fancy", not to be effective, and tbh it needs a redesign.

this comment is too close to endorsing animation cancelling....yuck.

victoriana-blue

HairyFairy wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

Neither would make any sense.. why would we become a necromancer when Mannimarco (the main enemy of the game aside from Moly Baly) is a necromancer in a cult of necromancers?

Don't even get me started on daedra..

There were some good daedra that helped us.

If you mean Lyranth, we were a tool for her while our goals aligned.

If you mean the Princes... Well, the Princes aren't really that different from Lyranth: mortals and the Vestige are pawns in the Princes' games. Meridia is callous about a lot of things, Mephala and Boethiah are plots within secrets within plots, and Azura cursed the Chimer then allowed Vvardenfell to be destroyed because Dunmer ancestors and the Tribunal pissed her off. (I love Azura, that was revenge served so cold it was frozen.)

Daedra! Ambiguous and selfish and double-edged! There's a reason most parts of Tamriel ban daedric cults.

Osteos

I would like to see more classes, the warden is quite fun and strong in pvp, but I would rather see something unique instead of a silly necromancer.

Ilithyania

Spellsword skilline.

Onehander weapon + spell

or a Necroclass

CardboardedBox

I had an idea a while back for a necromancer class zombie follower that you could put armor on by placing some in it's inventory. Maximum of four pieces to keep it from being overpowered.

Probably a bad idea, but I thought it was interesting.

Oh yeah forgot, also, they type of armor could change the zombies playstyle, and you can only have one type of armor on it at a time. Light or medium or heavy. No mix and matching.
All light armor makes it's attacks deal magic damage, and it focuses on dps. All medium armor makes it deal physical damage, also dps. All heavy armor makes the zombie focus more on staying alive, and it will block and taunt a lot.

All armor stays equipped on it when it despawns, and the armor returns with it when re summoned. Armor can be removed from its inventory by interacting with it.

Rickter

Necromancer.

Said this since launch

Its a known TES lore thing and there is even more reason to introduce it in ESO due to Mannimarco being so prevalent.

In any case, Dont draw conclusions about ZOS' ability to create new classes due to the Warden.

The Warden was a launch class that was shelved and because of that it shares many of the same abilities as existing classes.

Necromancer would be a clean slate and brand new. a second minion class etc etc. They could do a lot with it and make it really fun, dark, and clever.

Anhedonie

Not buying new class, before they fix the warden.

Also, daedra isn't a class.

pod88kk

Whatever it is it'll probably Nerf other classes

mb10

Lmao "daedra" class

You must be new to TES games

Yolokin_Swagonborn

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

Warden does have some cancerous abilities in pvp

Theres many cancerous abilities and builds in pvp... Shield ulti and soul assault arent better than warden abilities.
And actually, the only reason why warden has undodgeable attack is because ZOS intentionally made its animation so slow that no one would get hit by it if it was dodgeable.
They've built the class to look "fancy", not to be effective, and tbh it needs a redesign.

This. ZOS really didn't care if the warden was actually an effective class. It was just a shiny created for the sole purpose of boosting moronwind sales.

Storymaster

HairyFairy wrote: »

Next class: Necromancer, or Daedra!?

So..... how would Daedra be a class exactly?

Megabear

Why not both?

Daedra race and Necromancer class.

Gedalya

HairyFairy wrote: »

Which would you prefer?

Love the idea for both; would prefer Daedra limited to a select few: such as those who have finished Caldwell's Silver and Gold simply so we don't see a lot of Daedra running around. LoTRO had a neat though with Monster Play; and I think ZOS does an excellent job when it comes to innovating.

Doctordarkspawn

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

Warden does have some cancerous abilities in pvp

Yeah, but it's PVE capability is 'healer, tank, or bust'. It's DPS ablities in a PVE setting are absolute garbage.

More skills, maybe.But warden proved they cant do classes.

Also, yes, after or during the plainmeld people will be cool with a Daedra walking around Lorewise. Are you high?

Emmagoldman

I think it could be done and too often people have expectations that are at times unrealistic. Every class might not be op for every role or for all content. Classes, new weapons skill lines or skill lines are great even if not perfect. I honestly dont like the idea of 3rd morphs, as balance may be hectic. More classes make you think more about role and choose wiser.

Personally, its about how the dev team use their time and Id rather pay for content with new skills and classes then another trial or dungeon, or skin or crate from the store.

Any new class or skill would need to be a hybrid. Necromancer that increases costs or saps stam magica to team while a bard might boost those stats. A brawler might buff team damage or crit chance ect. Gods and goddess skill line with max/min system for example, increase gap closer dmg by x percent, but take increase damage from aoe. Weapons, pole arms for aoe, defense from gap closer and snare (helps stam in pve especially) hand to hand channel abilities ect

Problem with any new classes or skills are the player base more than zos.

* People are incrediably tied, even emotionally to their class. A nerf to breath of life, crits to proc sets, or 20 sec shields and people loose it. They do not seperate themselves from their toon as if they are being nerfed irl. When magsorc went from 20 sec to 6 sec shields I was at first pissed myself.

* people have their own idea of what classes should be and set expectations from the start that are unrealistic. It doesnt fit what THEY want so it "sucks" Take warden, people want it to be different things but of course it cant be all. They want high dps but also huge heals. Really, how would that be good for game? You see it with other classes. I want to be a magsorc tank! My saptank isnt as good as stamdk. Dk doesnt have an execute! Not everything will be even.

*the game isnt yours, its everyones. If you pvp, you cant expect everything to fit pvp. Even if it was seperate from pvp and pve, some classes will be good for 1 vs 1, 1 v x or group.
In pve, If you do end game vet trials, you cant model a whole class off of the expectation of just that one aspect of pve. Warden is absoluty fine for any dungeon and questing.

Gargath

Neither, we don't need new class but new weapons instead. Especially magicka based dual wielded or stamina physical spears/halberds. How long will we wait for new personal weapons?

mocap

class change token

Rohaus

I would prefer a class melee oriented with skills inherent only to that class that are stamina specific... meaning a class that actually has more stamina morphs that magicka morphs... every class in the game right now is heavily slanted towards magicka.

CapnPhoton

Neither.

I am not interested in being Daedra, and in 2 other games I played, having necromancers ruined the balance, flow, and lore of the game.