Engine Guardian, Glass style and aestetic

Cinbri

1. Noone will deny that aestetic look of your armor/weapon/char is something that make game a bit more enjoyable. Sadly, loading on pts I saw pretty terrible change of Engine Guardian shoulders. It doesn't listed in items that for some reason look different from live versions, making me believe it intended change.
And this change is utterly terrible from female char PoV:
Currently on live shoulder tine and compact shoulder, synergizing with several armor styles. It making it look perfect on female char. However on pts - shoulder is increased in size almost 2 times, transforming it into huge bulwark on your shoulder. That making it look weird on female. Was it done coz fix of personalities , there is no point to ruin it perfect aestetic look for female.
I demand make It back to look twice smaller.
You can see on screen below how disproportional it became on female char.

2. Not to mention and old cosmetic bug with it's effect that exists for more than year. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/303160/engine-guardian-visual-bug#latest

3. Glass chests - have place in list of styles that got weird bug, but making side flips to be bound to legs made this style to look even more perfect. When flips not jiggling during walk/run/ jumps but being straight on legs increasing solidify look of armor as some sort of futuristic battlesuit where all pieces attached to each other.
I asking to keep this probably unintended change coz it making style even better.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

kojou

I never understood why the shoulder had a Dwemer Spider head attached to it anyway... if I was making a shoulder armor from a dwemer spider I would use the leg parts since they would bend naturally around the shoulder.

That said... it is interesting that they decided to change the proportions of it. I wonder what the reason was.

Kanar

Hmm they made it longer so it will probably clip even more into bulky heavy armor, like skinchanger motif. "Great."

usmcjdking

Cinbri honestly needs to be hired for the QA department lead. Finds the most relevant and irrelevant stuff on PTS and makes threads on it. I would have never seen, noticed, or even cared to look for something as minute as this.

Keep up the good work Cin!

Avran_Sylt

Its probably a bug.

It doesn't change color either:

idk

OP, I strongly suggest you edit your OP and use something less harsh than "demand".

Zos tends to close threads that make demands. Basically, we have the right to express our oppinions ans thoughts to a wide degree, but not to make demands.

RoamingRiverElk

This bug is nearly game-breaking for Dagoth. Please, do what he asks so he will continue to grace our guild with his presence and his extensive knowledge of the templar class. Besides, he's our only PvP templar, we can't lose him to something like this.

... ;-)

ToRelax

I feel somewhat pressured to comment here.

It really doesn't look nice on PTS though.

ak_pvp

Probably alone, but I like it more bigger. Covers the whole upper arm and looks less shrank. And I agree on the glass parts, normally the side parts on the chest look like some floppy semi skirt, bound to legs looks stronk.

Cinbri

Same should be done regarding Engine pauldron to reflect original size. Don't borrow this problem like those above that also include huge pauldrons of Ordinators costume on females. Even with Ebon styled armor that is visually huge this new size of engine is visibly distorting proportions on female char.
@ZOS_GinaBruno

FoolishHuman

So many of the monster shoulders float, move weirdly or just don't have a surface on one side. Would be nice if that was fixed. This one however? To be honest the big one looks better on your character.

Derra

ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »

I never understood why the shoulder had a Dwemer Spider head attached to it anyway... if I was making a shoulder armor from a dwemer spider I would use the leg parts since they would bend naturally around the shoulder.

That said... it is interesting that they decided to change the proportions of it. I wonder what the reason was.

They made infernal guardian bigger aswell. I think they adjusted the size of almost any monster shoulderpiece.

Feanor

@Cinbri

Interesting find. To me the new version looks better on your char also. What's the polymorph/skin you use on that? Looks awesome.

Cinbri

Feanor wrote: »

@Cinbri

Interesting find. To me the new version looks better on your char also. What's the polymorph/skin you use on that? Looks awesome.

No, it look worse on females, maybe I chose wrong pov to show it. In addition to such problems like some costumes have weird place and bigger pauldron than it was firstly intended (like current Ordinator, there is some threads about it), now there is one more problem added...
Blessed Brass skin from new trial vr-mode reward.

nCats

Jiggling/floating flips and shoulders is a problem of many styles and monster sets, including Trinimac, one of the better-looking styles in the game.

Tyrobag

On the note of the engine guardian shoulder, can we please fix it so it can be dyed properly? If we could actually make it match anything it would be one of the coolest looking monster shoulders in the game

I hate the direction they keep going with armor dyes, all of the new motifs pale out your dyes to the point of the armor being uncolorable...

Derra

@Cinbri do you know which monster shoulders have NOT been changed in size?

Cinbri

Derra wrote: »

@Cinbri do you know which monster shoulders have NOT been changed in size?

Shadowrend, Bloodspawn, Chockethorn, Grothdarr, Iceheart, Malubeth, Maw, Chudan, Nerien'eth, Pirate, Sellistrix, Sentinel, Slimecraw, Tremorscale, Trollking, Velidreth. Some others that changed their position clipping, but remained same size..

Derra

So why were skoria, infernal and engine changed.

Cinbri

Derra wrote: »

So why were skoria, infernal and engine changed.

I believe it unintended, bug. Same as happened to some things and some of which was fixed, like on previous patch

Cinbri

Well, after patch 3.2.2 Engine and some other monster sets still have their size increased. And after "fix" of armors glass chest side flips are annoyingly jiggling once again.

Cinbri

1. I still here with remind of reduce Engine size back to original. It especially sad since most monster sets that got increase did returned to original size in previous patches, beside Engine. Even costumes that had this problem with soulders, like Ordinator, got fixed.

Even on Ebon style it too distorting.
2. It is sad that glass chests were "fixed" and side flips unbound to legs, given that feature of new CwC styles is flips that bound to legs.
@ZOS_GinaBruno

Cinbri

Still here, still waiting for fix

TheNightflame

bumping in case it's still an issue cuz the style is out now!

Zophix

Valkyn Skoria looks completely different too.

Cinbri

TheNightflame wrote: »

bumping in case it's still an issue cuz the style is out now!

They fixed size of Engine shoulder long ago. Literally in next update after this thread.