Blocking - interaction with DoTs and AoEs?

TheYKcid

UPDATE: I tested the mechanics in question, and have updated the original post with my findings, which will be written in bold.

Hi everyone,
I was curious about how blocking functions against DoTs and AoEs, in the context of PvP. However my searches didn't turn-up any recent or conclusive information.

Some specific examples I'd like to know are...

1) Poison Injection:
If the initial impact is blocked, will the debuff and DoT portion of the skill be negated? What about blocking when the DoT has already been applied—will this mitigate the damage ticks?
TEST RESULT 1: If the initial impact is blocked, PI still applies its debuff. The DoT ticks, however, are NOT mitigated by blocking.

2) Viper's Sting:
Same questions as with P.I. In this case I suppose the "initial damage" would correspond to the melee attack that applies the DoT.
TEST RESULT 2: If the initial impact (light attack, heavy attack, melee physical skill, etc.) is blocked, Viper's still applies it's DoT. The damage ticks DO get mitigated by blocking—which is unintended behaviour. This is a known bug that is being fixed on the Clockwork City PTS.

3) Weapon enchantment procs (eg. Glyph of Flame):
Does blocking mitigate the damage from these, as per a regular direct damage attack? What about the secondary effects that such glyphs can proc (burning, diseased, concussed, etc)—does blocking also prevent these from occurring? And does blocking mitigate the damage ticks that they apply?
TEST RESULT 3: Blocking does NOT prevent direct-damage weapon glyphs from proccing. However, blocking DOES mitigate the damage that they proc.

4) Ground AoEs (eg. Volley, Caltrops, Elemental Blockade):
Does blocking while standing in the AoE of such skills mitigate their damage ticks?
TEST RESULT 4: Blocking does mitigate the damage ticks. Note however, that this was tested with Volley, and may not be representative of other skills.

I know that's a lot of specific examples, and I'd appreciate any help or insight!

Thogard

1. Not 100% sure but I believe the dot will still be applied but you can block mitigate its damage. If you stop blocking you will no longer be mitigating the dot tics.
2. Not 100% sure but I believe it's same as above since it's a single target dot
3. Weapon glyphs won't proc on someone who is blocking. This was a recent change and it really ruined the obliv dmg enchant.
4. Blocking does nothing to mitigate ground target AoE dots, Which is BS since the Destro ult counts as a ground target AoE.

Siliziumdioxid

Pretty sure Blocking does not help against single target DoT ticks applied to a target. Only the initial Direct damage part of a DoT ability can be blocked but the DoT component will be applied.
I should log in and make some pictures to confirm this though.

Chilly-McFreeze

Thogard wrote: »

3. Weapon glyphs won't proc on someone who is blocking. This was a recent change and it really ruined the obliv dmg enchant.

What? Really? Like really really? This goes directly to my list of absurd choices from ZOS. I guess permablocking wasn't enough to bear for us.

paulsimonps

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

3. Weapon glyphs won't proc on someone who is blocking. This was a recent change and it really ruined the obliv dmg enchant.

What? Really? Like really really? This goes directly to my list of absurd choices from ZOS. I guess permablocking wasn't enough to bear for us.

@Chilly-McFreeze It doesn't work on all abilities, and I don't remember what thread it was but the devs have said its not intended. Now when they will fix it in up for debate. Unblockable skills will proc the enchantments, and some others too, its not consistent at all.

TheYKcid

Thogard wrote: »

3. Weapon glyphs won't proc on someone who is blocking. This was a recent change and it really ruined the obliv dmg enchant.

Wow this sounds like a terrible change. Hopefully it's unintended and will get fixed.

TheYKcid

Update from the recent PTS notes on Clockwork City:

• Viper’s Sting: Fixed an issue where the damage from this Item Set’s proc could be blocked.

Seems like it's intended for the DoT of viper to not be mitigatable through block?

Waffennacht

DoTs can be mitigated, I do not know which are/aren't however, by block - example Soul Assault

I do not know if Ground based AoE DoTs can be or not

I do know dots will drain the Stam of a blocker while blocking

The dot of poison injection will be applied if the initial damage is blocked, I'm guessing same is true for the debuffs you mention

TheYKcid

Bumping for updated findings.