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Defile changes and buff debuff system

rafaelcsmaia
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As far as I know, the game is made with a buff debuff system in mind, each to be able to nullify each other, be it breach and ward, resolve and fracture, heroism and cowardice, etc

Now I really dont get the changes to defile, which is supposed to counter vitality, since vitality doesnt grant 30% more health regen, why defile should reduce it?

There is already a buff for health regen, major fortitude, which is 20% health regen bonus, this buff for defile is off the charts
  • paulsimonps
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    As far as I know, the game is made with a buff debuff system in mind, each to be able to nullify each other, be it breach and ward, resolve and fracture, heroism and cowardice, etc

    Now I really dont get the changes to defile, which is supposed to counter vitality, since vitality doesnt grant 30% more health regen, why defile should reduce it?

    There is already a buff for health regen, major fortitude, which is 20% health regen bonus, this buff for defile is off the charts

    Big thing to note is that Health Regen is still not affected by Battlespirit
  • Thrymbauld
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    Defile is also debuff/counter to healing, and in fact this is its primary purpose. Major Mending is 30%. The addition of health regen debuff to the mix is attributed to the fact that nothing else was debuffing health regen and as a consequence, it was being used directly to counter defile because there was nothing a player could do about regen at these levels, particularly when coupled with Troll King monster set.

    The debuff is fine anyway. Direct damage sources can still be healed through and the massive variety of DoTs that cause the actual damage in this game can be cleansed away(which is why damage alone isn't enough counter to healing, as damage itself is countered in so many ways).

    The ability isn't an island, and should be a powerful tool. With this addition, it gets much better at what it does but I don't see it being overpowered.
  • rafaelcsmaia
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    It looks to me like a band aid fix for the over performing troll king set. Also, major mending is only available to 2 classes (not counting resto cuz meh), only templars can cleanse withouth burning mag with efficient purge, whereas defile is really easy to obtain (Dark flare, dk standard, warden corrupting polen, lethal arrow, reverb bash, meatbag catapults, durok set) it is really hard to have a fight in cyro on which you dont get defiled.

    I dont really mind that much because im a magicka player, im just thinking about the overall performance, i started using durok set on my magicka sorc and is funny how easy is to kill any stam setup now, i wonder how it will be when the health regen gets smacked too by defile
    Edited by rafaelcsmaia on August 28, 2017 7:56PM
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