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Magsorc vs Stamsorc duel
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coop500✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Magsorc, forever shieldsWishing for Lilmothiit race still! Or maybe Lilmothiit companion?4 -
bmannb16_ESO✭✭✭
Give it a break already, mag sorc without shield stack is just a dead sorc.Magsorc, forever shields
It's a silly question, it's up the the gear and player skill not much else.AD Six feet under (Sorc, Templar, Dragon Knight)
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chaserstorm16909✭✭✭✭✭If I was the magsorc then the stamsorc would win.
I suck at everything except nightblade.9 -
SnubbS✭✭✭✭✭If equally skilled, MagSorc would win—obviously. It would just be a resource management game, Sorcs have infinite sustain due to the shield stack>heavy resto>shield stack>rinse>repeat playstyle that resto offers.
That's without adding Pet Sorc into the equation—add in Pet Sorc and there's genuinely not even a hope for the StamSorc.1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mag sorc, highest burst and ranged with mines.
Also if its a destro build then the stam sorc won't be able to dark deal.
Honestly stam sorc's aren't that great in 1v1.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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MirkoZ✭✭✭✭If equally skilled, MagSorc would win—obviously. It would just be a resource management game, Sorcs have infinite sustain due to the shield stack>heavy resto>shield stack>rinse>repeat playstyle that resto offers.
That's without adding Pet Sorc into the equation—add in Pet Sorc and there's genuinely not even a hope for the StamSorc.Drakkdjinn wrote: »
Just put a trap inside mines , its not so hard kill a magsorc if you know how to do to beat them.Edited by MirkoZ on August 22, 2017 5:16AM2 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mag Sorcs should get nerfed like DKs got. They are just too op.
How should they be nerfed? Whats OP about them specifically? Do you have a mag sorc?PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
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Forum 101.
Every thread is a nerf-sorc thread.
Basically, though, too many variables to say. Player skill is a biggie.. But how are they built? For open world, for 1v1s? for a duel vs that particular class?Minalan owes me a beer.
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Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
Aidee - Magsorc - DC
Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.1 -
WaltherCarraway✭✭✭✭✭
Forum 101.
Every thread is a nerf-sorc thread.
Basically, though, too many variables to say. Player skill is a biggie.. But how are they built? For open world, for 1v1s? for a duel vs that particular class?
How about try to beat a magsorc playin' magdk before saying something like "skill is a biggie" while hugging at noob friendly class.
Disclaimer: i did not say nerf sorc, no caps on me. thank you.
Same, victim card well played. yet conceitingEdited by WaltherCarraway on August 22, 2017 10:26AMBack from my last hiatus. 2021 a new start.1 -
WaltherCarraway✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »
I will teach you how op is it. Roll your mag dk and duel with my mag sorc. I bet you can't win a round in 10 rounds.
Flap your wing? no prob, a curse
Stone giant? no prob, a defensive rune
5 secs have passed? no prob, a streak to stun you and land mines waiting for you.
Oh, while you try to do anything to me, I cast a crystal frag.
I don't even need ward to beat a magdk in common condition.
Oh no i have no stam and health, a deal!
Please, try to interrpt me to even your odd to win.
LOL. If you guys haven't played other class except those noob friendly ones (mag sorc/templar/nb), don't point out l2p issues like crazy because most people would consider your intelligence paralleled with NPCs beside autism and blindfolded opinons.
Is it that hard, to ADMIT mag sorc is the class with best mobility, sustain and burst?
Victim card well played.
Edited by WaltherCarraway on August 22, 2017 10:37AMBack from my last hiatus. 2021 a new start.8 -
WaltherCarraway✭✭✭✭✭To answer OP question. Mag Sorc will win. If you lose simply delete your character.
(Same apply to those mag sorc rekt'd by dragonknights and stamblade...)Edited by WaltherCarraway on August 22, 2017 10:30AMBack from my last hiatus. 2021 a new start.1 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭WaltherCarraway wrote: »
Forum 101.
Every thread is a nerf-sorc thread.
Basically, though, too many variables to say. Player skill is a biggie.. But how are they built? For open world, for 1v1s? for a duel vs that particular class?
How about try to beat a magsorc playin' magdk before saying something like "skill is a biggie" while hugging at noob friendly class.
Disclaimer: i did not say nerf sorc, no caps on me. thank you.
Same, victim card well played. yet conceiting
Whut? Seems like you're pretty keen on being the 'victim' in a thread that was nothing about you, or your class, and not 'victimising' anyone in any way.
Edited by Biro123 on August 22, 2017 10:47AMMinalan owes me a beer.
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Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
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Fignutz821✭✭✭#BUFFSTAMDKCR 561+
LV 50 Nord Dk tank/stam DPS (stormproof)
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Olupajmibanan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Magsorc would win IMO - shield stack, crushing shock, mine camping.
Stamsorc isn't good in prepared 1v1 duel without environment for LoSing.
Stamsorc shines in 1vx situations when you can make full use of your kit, take advantage of environment and LoS, reset the fights and take one by one.3 -
CyrusArya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭When I was playing stam sorc, I won the vast majority of fights vs magicka sorcs, and not just bad ones. In my experience, mag sorc vs a medium armor 2h Bow build, the fight is skewed to the magicka sorc. Magicka sorc vs a heavy armor dual wield dot build however, the fight is heavily skewed in favor of the stam sorc. It comes down to the fact that a heavy stam sorc can not only have extreme tankiness in a 1v1 fight, but at the same time stack damage thru the roof and apply non stop pressure with bleeds and dots. Magicka sorc can have 1 and 2 but not all 3. On top of this, it has great sustain and a utility bar where you can put caltrops and trap to shut down mines.
What non sorc peasants fail to understand or accept is that shield stacking is expensive. VS a competent heavy armor stamina dot build (I.e. one that bashes your dark deal), there is a battle of attrition that is difficult for the magicka sorc to win going strictly by the numbers.5 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yeah depends on build but I agree with @CyrusArya I think that in an equal skill match with the right setup a stam sorc could bring the heat. When I was playing medium armor 2H/bow I hated my life vs mag sorcs. Switched to heavy dw dot build and SB with skoria and mag sorcs started having a tough time. I could basically crit heal through their damage and tank through mines while landing devistating heavy attack to rending/flurry combos with hurricane and skoria keeping pressure. Better players could still take me out but I noticed a significant drop in deaths to mag sorcs and started to not worry about encountering them.2 -
MakoFore✭✭✭✭✭
✭equal skill- mag sorc.
whenever there is a duel tournament- mag sorc, mag dk, stam dk and mag plars are normally up at the top. occasiaonly a stamplar too. stam sorcs are nt great classes for duelling. seen many a duel where the superior player - a stam sorc would lose to a mag dk for example and both players acknowledged the stam sorc outplayed the dk- but the dk won just due to superior duelling passives and inherent class abilities. the mag sorc is similar, all the utility in the game is magicka based- so they have an advantage there, with roots, pets, runes, crowd control ,all of that . shields especially. stamina is forced to rely on weapons - which although there are more of them- they just dont have the control and utility that mgicka based players get access to.
i imagine it going like this- a stam sorc- probably dual wield and 2hander- would drop down caltrops and trap on the ground, off of the overload bar to start- and the mag sorc- if specced out for duelling would just roll out a bunch of *** pets- a clanger, a twilight, a freaking atronach , and it'd essentially be a zerg. a pet sorc magicka sorc is a *** *** to duel against- and broken- its why its been banned in many tournaments- for example faso s last tournament- just too hard to fight againstEdited by MakoFore on August 22, 2017 1:19PM1 -
SnubbS✭✭✭✭✭If equally skilled, MagSorc would win—obviously. It would just be a resource management game, Sorcs have infinite sustain due to the shield stack>heavy resto>shield stack>rinse>repeat playstyle that resto offers.
That's without adding Pet Sorc into the equation—add in Pet Sorc and there's genuinely not even a hope for the StamSorc.Drakkdjinn wrote: »
Just put a trap inside mines , its not so hard kill a magsorc if you know how to do to beat them.
I literally didn't even type the word "Mines"—and if you think putting a rearming trap down inside of mines is the secret answer to killing MagSorcs—especially in my scenario where they have 50k max mag and two pets, you're just wrong. It's a game of pressure, and you cannot build something in ESO with more pressure in a 1v1 than PetSorc—not after the proc set nerfs. Pets literally give the same effect as proc sets—free damage—only it's twice as good.
Oh, and when pressure is being applied to you it costs less resources to shield stack + heavy resto than it does for the other player to use offensive abilities.
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Thogard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If there are immov pots involved, the Stam sorc would win.
If not, the mag sorc. Stam sorcs need crits to get their heals, and so Mag sorcs are particularly strong against them.
I don't know why everyone here seems to think Stam sorcs are a weak 1v1 class. They most certainly aren't. They're virtually unkillable if they run immov pots and get passed dmg shields because of how ridiculously OP the crit surge ability + hurricane + dual wield is.PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
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