Personal No Death achievement instead of team based ?

Krawchi

Would any of you guys want it to be like that ?

Jhalin

Definitely. I don't mind some extra fluff group no-death runs, but I think the survivor achievements should only care about if you survived the whole time

SammyFable

Well, it's related to GROUP content, not solo content. So, even if it would make it possible with a PUG to get no death, I still say no.
Want a no death achievement? Have your whole group work for it.

casparian

Definitely not. Group content is about group composition and group performance, not four people soloing in the same instance.

NBrookus

It's a group achievement.

If you want to get solo no death credit... well you can always solo the dungeon for it.

s7732425ub17_ESO

Definitely. That is the only fair way to fix the Falkreath achieve ***.

Keep the group no death achieve for Forge.

WhoSlappedThePie

Well to be honest when you have tried achieving it several times, especially no death, and you have always stated death-free then it does become annoying.

I've been put off it now because I've tried no death Mass quite a few times. I have always survived it just upsets me now...

Thogard

this would really ruin things for completion times.. all the DPS people would spec for survivability and everything would take 2x as long... be careful what you wish for.

Jhalin

Thogard wrote: »

this would really ruin things for completion times.. all the DPS people would spec for survivability and everything would take 2x as long... be careful what you wish for.

??? How would that even remotely happen? If they die they already lock themselves (and the entire group) out of the no-death achievements. DPS don't focus on staying alive right now even though they need to to get those achievements and not screw it up for the other three people, they wouldn't spec for pure defense if this change happened. You can be sure about that.

Jhalin

Thogard wrote: »

this would really ruin things for completion times.. all the DPS people would spec for survivability and everything would take 2x as long... be careful what you wish for.

??? How would that even remotely happen? If they die they already lock themselves (and the entire group) out of the no-death achievements. DPS don't focus on staying alive right now even though they need to to get those achievements and not screw it up for the other three people, they wouldn't spec for pure defense if this change happened. You can be sure about that.

Magdalina

If you want solo no death achievement, your 2 options are running vMA or running dungeons solo

Otherwise, no. It's a group content and the group should work for it. Yes it can suck when one of your teammates - not you - potatoes and ruins it at the last boss, but such is life. It's all about teamwork - you find the right people, you run it with them til you get the hang of it, then you no death it. It's a team effort for the most part - tank must do his job, healer must do his job, dps must do their job, everyone must be ready to pick up others' slack just in case for a no death(i.e. if the mechanics allow for it you might want to go for a more defensive ulti for a no death, maybe run Bone Shield as stam, etc).

AhPook_Is_Here

No, because it is so obvious how to cheat it. Wouldn't you just stand at the entrance and not participate to get your achievement?

SammyFable

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

No, because it is so obvious how to cheat it. Wouldn't you just stand at the entrance and not participate to get your achievement?

This would get you kicked sooooooooooo fast.

SirAndy

Krawchi wrote: »

Personal No Death achievement instead of team based ?

Plays group content, wants solo achievements ...

Royaji

SammyFable wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

No, because it is so obvious how to cheat it. Wouldn't you just stand at the entrance and not participate to get your achievement?

This would get you kicked sooooooooooo fast.

Nope and it's actually a viable tactic for a no-death run in CoH2. Sometimes it's better to leave a couple of players behind. Maybe even behind something.

AhPook_Is_Here

Royaji wrote: »

SammyFable wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

No, because it is so obvious how to cheat it. Wouldn't you just stand at the entrance and not participate to get your achievement?

This would get you kicked sooooooooooo fast.

Nope and it's actually a viable tactic for a no-death run in CoH2. Sometimes it's better to leave a couple of players behind. Maybe even behind something.

I like that, "Maybe even behind something".

kargen27

SammyFable wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

No, because it is so obvious how to cheat it. Wouldn't you just stand at the entrance and not participate to get your achievement?

This would get you kicked sooooooooooo fast.

Nah people would treat it just like they do Skyreach. They would sell the achievement.

ak_pvp

Maybe. But with a caveat.

Kill (Insert name of bosses here) without dying. Which means you have to deal/heal/tank a certain amount of damage.

paulsimonps

Its a GROUP dungeon, do it was a team or not at all. Earn it as a team, get rewarded as a team.

Surak73

Well, at least in some case you can already get it: soloing Volenfell with my magblade I got the no-death achievement which I had never got before...

However, no: if it's a group activity, and if in your group there are more people, I think that no one of them should die in order to get that achievement.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Not okay with me. You are part of your group, and your group is part of you. haha

Put it this way. Say I am a tank. I am good at not dying because I have 50k health and almost nothing in 4 man content hits that hard, but I am not great at CC or managing my taunts. I dont die, but I consistently lose aggro and one of my DPS gets one shot by the boss 12 times and must be res'ed by the other players. Should I get an an achievement for that?

celner4_ESO

SammyFable wrote: »

Well, it's related to GROUP content, not solo content. So, even if it would make it possible with a PUG to get no death, I still say no.
Want a no death achievement? Have your whole group work for it.

Yeah I agree, on top of the fact if people started dying one or two would run off or be worried so much about keeping themselves safe they'd screw the other group members.

Cryptical

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

No, because it is so obvious how to cheat it. Wouldn't you just stand at the entrance and not participate to get your achievement?

Someone tried that. I heard it didn't acknowledge them. It is thought that they need to participate in the fights in order to be eligible for the achievement.

Jhalin

You have to participate in fights to get credit. There's no way to gib the system here. There no incentive to use group finder right now if you have friends who play, may as well make it less punishing for people who have to use it solo.

disintegr8

It is about the group, not the individual.

We'd move into a world where healers only have to heal themselves and tanks don't have to keep aggro because they get the achievement regardless of who else dies. Or NB DD's who cloak and sneak past mobs and leave everyone else to fight them (this has actually happened to me).

Mureel

Jhalin wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

this would really ruin things for completion times.. all the DPS people would spec for survivability and everything would take 2x as long... be careful what you wish for.

??? How would that even remotely happen? If they die they already lock themselves (and the entire group) out of the no-death achievements. DPS don't focus on staying alive right now even though they need to to get those achievements and not screw it up for the other three people, they wouldn't spec for pure defense if this change happened. You can be sure about that.

lol no one needs those achievements.

Tannus15

I don't know anyone who goes after no death with a pug.

LiquidPony

This achievement already exists. I believe it's called "The Flawless Conqueror."

Jhalin

Mureel wrote: »

lol no one needs those achievements.

Please learn how to read. They need to not die to get the achievement, not they need the achievement ya dumb.

Nerouyn

WhoSlappedThePie wrote: »

Well to be honest when you have tried achieving it several times, especially no death, and you have always stated death-free then it does become annoying.

I've been put off it now because I've tried no death Mass quite a few times. I have always survived it just upsets me now...

I sympathise. Truly. It could be worse though and has been in another MMO.

When Lord of the Rings Online launched they had several achievements for a player not dying before reaching something like levels 10, 15, 20.

Easy peasy, you might think? Not so with chronic memory leaks and the game lagging for several minutes at a time, then you experiencing the worst rubber banding ever and watching everything around your character fast-forward in a few seconds to catch up. Typically including your death.

You couldn't delevel and retry for those achievements on that character either. You had to delete that character and start again. Then experience exactly the same rubber-band death before reaching level 20. Again and again and again and again and again.

That was annoying.... until you just uninstalled the game and cancelled your subscription.

Elrosahir

Short my answer: i dont care. I have all - 1 missing and thats vHoF. If they change this, it will not care me.^^