Fed up of Glass Canon DPS in dungeons

Septimus_Magna

I ran into a guy who was running buff food that only gives max magicka until the last boss in vet Vault of Madness. He didnt die that run but its a pretty risky strategy running with 12-14k health.

In most dungeons you can prevent getting hit 90% of the time (if everyone does his role) so its mostly down to player skill.

newtinmpls

Libonotus wrote: »

I was in Vet Mazzatun with a pretty tanky tank and a DPS with decent resistances. However, there was on DPS that hit hard but had little-no resistances and had no shields. So when it got to boss fights, he kept draining my magical pool just trying to keep him alive, I have decent recovery but having to spam healing springs and regen on one DPS that keeps running around and gets 2 shotted easily and won't stay with the rest so I can group heal is not fun.

Long story, but I get there in the end.

I play with my spouse; and one of our "teams" is a "husband and wife" couple. He's a Osimer Battlemage (stamsorc) all damage all the time. She's a Breton Templar Healer (best &$*# healer I have ever seen in the game). She is also MERCILESS about telling people if they don't stick together (or be where she tells them they need to be) then they don't get healed.

Unless they have super self-heals, if they don't listen.. she don't heal....and they die.

Heal the folks who group. Ignore the one who doesn't. Although it's good form to tell everyone what you need beforehand.

Yamenstein

I'm curious as to what sets this dps was using. Also there is a difference between hitting "hard" and dpsing at a high value, so was he having consistent dps? Or just good random bursts?

Most dps sets don't really add resistance. None of the sets I use at least. Which is why its most likely just a bad dps not knowing when to block, dodge, move out of reds, etc.

The solution? Run with guildies. If the dps was a guildie then let him/her know some tips and/or tricks to help survive.

aToken

Libonotus wrote: »

I was in Vet Mazzatun with a pretty tanky tank and a DPS with decent resistances. However, there was on DPS that hit hard but had little-no resistances and had no shields. So when it got to boss fights, he kept draining my magical pool just trying to keep him alive, I have decent recovery but having to spam healing springs and regen on one DPS that keeps running around and gets 2 shotted easily and won't stay with the rest so I can group heal is not fun.

Yea I could say the exact same about 5k tanky dps when I play as tank or heals. Glass canon isn't the problem it's the player. Ps not all 5k dps is tanky. Lol

newtinmpls

Asardes wrote: »

VMA is the best cure for player stupidity. Never seen a Stormproof, let alone Flawless player get rekt repeatedly in dungeons or trials even with 16K health.

jaburns wrote: »

+1 on this, too. If I see a DPS with Stormproof- they probably know their stuff.

Oddly one of the best "cures" for my hair-on-fire problems with playing was to start playing Borderlands 2. it's so insane, it makes the worst ESO can throw at me seem doable.

humpalicous

Libonotus wrote: »

I was in Vet Mazzatun with a pretty tanky tank and a DPS with decent resistances. However, there was on DPS that hit hard but had little-no resistances and had no shields. So when it got to boss fights, he kept draining my magical pool just trying to keep him alive, I have decent recovery but having to spam healing springs and regen on one DPS that keeps running around and gets 2 shotted easily and won't stay with the rest so I can group heal is not fun.

Nothing wrong with glass canons, as long as they know how to play. That DD was probably pretty bad if he kept dying or the tank wasn't doing his job with keep aggro on the hard hitting mobs and bosses?

I have several glass canon builds (I just slot self heals for pugging) and rarely die, regardless of the dungeon.

You even said it yourself, he kept running around and not staying close to the group, that's an obvious sign of a DD who is just plain bad at this game.

I usually say don't hate the player hate the game, but it's the player who's the culprit this time.

MLGProPlayer

DPS need to be glass cannon to be effective. They just need to spam shields if they're magicka and be careful/block/dodge if they're stam.

WuffyCerulei

Any decent DPS has some sort of self-heal and/or damage mitigation, whether it be a shield or blade cloak. If they don't take those into regard, they aren't that good. That, and they're probably good friends with standing in stupid for too long.

Qbiken

Feanor wrote: »

If he was hitting hard then where is the problem?

Well, a dead DD= 0 dps

MehrunesFlagon

Honghua wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

If he was hitting hard then where is the problem?

Cant hit hard from the ground imho. xD

been able to do it in Cyrodil,but then again Cyrodil is kind of buggy.

MehrunesFlagon

SisterGoat wrote: »

I had a party member with 11k HP and he kept getting one shot, and this was in normal Skyreach. We gave him some HP food and that helped a little.

yeah....kinda happens when you don't eat.