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Hidden Champion Points

  • Leandor
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    Ive been using a stamina built and i when ahead and crafted rubedite deadric heavy armor and enchanted all with monumental glyphs but i will just keep leveling i just want to have atleast one match where me and my aponent are at the same level and im not just getting beat up on ive been using a dk stamina built

    Where to start? You crafted daedric armour. Ok. But you do realize that the daedric part is just cosmetic, doesn't say anything about its power?

    Did you craft a set piece or just some non-set armour? Do you know about sets? Do you understand the impact of passive abilities and how they work? Do you know about armour traits and what these do? What kind of glyphs have you used?

    Do you understand the concept of animation cancelling? Have you researched and mastered your class' burst combos? Do you understand how your attributes and stats influence your actual damage output?

    From what you write, I get the distinct impression that champion points or a lack thereof is your least problem when it comes to duelling.

    And, for what it's worth, usually those that randomly challenge people to duel around wayshrines are those that have all the experience and understanding that makes them good duelists. Maybe set your target lower.
  • scipionumatia
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    @Luciferazazell
    I'd suggest battlegrounds. They're all non cp at the moment so everyone is on the same level. Also you can earn AP and leaderboard score.
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  • LadyNalcarya
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    How can a player be level 30 and have 660 champion points that makes no sence you have to surpass level 50 in order to start getting championt. right ?

    That means they already have at least once lvl 50 char that earned those points. They are available for all fresh alts.

    Fresh alts ?

    New characters. For example, I'm cp660+, and if I buy an extra character slot and create a new character (alt), it will be able to use all my cps from the start.
    Duels are a very crappy way to level assault, I dont think they even give ap (in Cyro you can get caltrops in one evening lol) and bullying actual newbies is a *** move.

    Then that right there is miss leading how is the a posing player suppost to know your not really level 10 or 20 and that your leveled veteran becuase of another character that just has people running into traps and getting there .ss kicked

    So you want to fight people who cant fight back? :( Thats just sad.
    Go to Cyrodiil, join the most popular campaign and type "lfg" in chat. Youll get your assault skills in no time.

    Ah no i wantbto be able to have good matches right now im the one that cant fight back becuase you cant really know if a player is really the level thats shown

    Fight lvl 50+ players then, you can always see their cp rank.
    If youre getting your ass kicked by them... Well, learn to play then, what can I say. And you will learn nothing by killing actual newbies.

    Maybe i should just duel you since you seem to have an attitude i posted this for advice if you dont got anything good to say dont say anything at all im not trying to fight nevies im just trying to have good matches read my post up top

    I actually gave you a good advice. You can level your skill line in Cyrodiil, and its very fast. Even if youre mainly pver, you can get barrier/caltrops/etc in one evening (maybe 2). Also if you kill a Cyro delve boss, youll get an 1 hour ap boost.
    Speaking of attitudes... Youre saying its unfair that those players to have more cp than you (well, presumably. They might as well have the same cp rank as you or lower). But how is that fair to fight new players that dont have any cp at all when you have cp?
    I would duel you, but you have no chances... And I'm not a bully. ;)
    Lol you said " learn how to fight what else can i say" thats not very good advice lol

    Perhaps you need to learn to read, too. :neutral:
    You said "im trying to level up assualt quick". I recommended you the fastest and easiest way to earn ap, and you dont even have to kill anyone 1v1 (you can just get ap by joining a zerg, repairing walls, this kind of thing).
    As for 1v1 pvp, theres really no other way other than learn and adapt. You can copy someones build and grind 660 cps, but youll still get killed if youre unexperienced. You need to know how to counter other classes, how to burst them down, etc. That can only be achieved by practicing.
    Edited by LadyNalcarya on August 20, 2017 6:44AM
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  • Luciferazazell
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Ive been using a stamina built and i when ahead and crafted rubedite deadric heavy armor and enchanted all with monumental glyphs but i will just keep leveling i just want to have atleast one match where me and my aponent are at the same level and im not just getting beat up on ive been using a dk stamina built

    Where to start? You crafted daedric armour. Ok. But you do realize that the daedric part is just cosmetic, doesn't say anything about its power?

    Did you craft a set piece or just some non-set armour? Do you know about sets? Do you understand the impact of passive abilities and how they work? Do you know about armour traits and what these do? What kind of glyphs have you used?

    Do you understand the concept of animation cancelling? Have you researched and mastered your class' burst combos? Do you understand how your attributes and stats influence your actual damage output?

    From what you write, I get the distinct impression that champion points or a lack thereof is your least problem when it comes to duelling.

    And, for what it's worth, usually those that randomly challenge people to duel around wayshrines are those that have all the experience and understanding that makes them good duelists. Maybe set your target lower.

    Armor sets crafted are 2000+ maximum stamina enchantment adds 447 maximum stamina also reinforced armor value increased by 12 % this is a genera stats on the set
  • Leandor
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Ive been using a stamina built and i when ahead and crafted rubedite deadric heavy armor and enchanted all with monumental glyphs but i will just keep leveling i just want to have atleast one match where me and my aponent are at the same level and im not just getting beat up on ive been using a dk stamina built

    Where to start? You crafted daedric armour. Ok. But you do realize that the daedric part is just cosmetic, doesn't say anything about its power?

    Did you craft a set piece or just some non-set armour? Do you know about sets? Do you understand the impact of passive abilities and how they work? Do you know about armour traits and what these do? What kind of glyphs have you used?

    Do you understand the concept of animation cancelling? Have you researched and mastered your class' burst combos? Do you understand how your attributes and stats influence your actual damage output?

    From what you write, I get the distinct impression that champion points or a lack thereof is your least problem when it comes to duelling.

    And, for what it's worth, usually those that randomly challenge people to duel around wayshrines are those that have all the experience and understanding that makes them good duelists. Maybe set your target lower.

    Armor sets crafted are 2000+ maximum stamina enchantment adds 447 maximum stamina also reinforced armor value increased by 12 % this is a genera stats on the set

    Yes. There we have pinpointed the problem. Your impression that reinforced helps you is your first problem. That you stack stamina and disregard everything else is your second problem. If you want to be successful in any form of pvp, you need to build your char around minimizing burst on yourself while maximizing burst potential you do to others.

    There is only one trait that is relevant in pvp: impenetrable. The only reason to not use impenetrable as a stamina char is if you have the set "impregnable armor", which can be found in the reward mails from battlegrounds.

    You need to balance weapon damage, weapon crit, stamina, and stamina regeneration. You have to target at least 23k to 24k health while in pvp, so 18k to 19k in pve land.

    You need to set your champion points to maximize defence.

    Unless you improve your understanding of pvp mechanics, nothing will help you win duels. Irrespective of "hidden champion points".
    Edited by Leandor on August 20, 2017 11:32AM
  • FloppyTouch
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    My lvl 15 in gold gear has stats way above my 630 soon to be 660 when cp gets the patch. The big thing low lvl are missing is passives but we don't need that when we can hit like a truck.

    Lvl 15 mdk 4K sd 1,8k recovery 3k crit resistance 38k max magic

    Lvl 630 gold gear same sets 2.3 sd 1.3k recovery 1.8 crit resistance 35k max magic

    It's crazy
    Edited by FloppyTouch on August 20, 2017 1:03PM
  • Slack
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    Thats not a valanced game experience atleast in that aspect

    Wants balanced game experience,
    tries to smack lowbies,
    gets beaten by irony

    There is plenty of people running around at your CP level, I'm sure you will find someone who wants to duell
    Edited by Slack on August 20, 2017 1:15PM
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  • Unfadingsilence
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    My lvl 15 in gold gear has stats way above my 630 soon to be 660 when cp gets the patch. The big thing low lvl are missing is passives but we don't need that when we can hit like a truck.

    Lvl 15 mdk 4K sd 1,8k recovery 3k crit resistance 38k max magic

    Lvl 630 gold gear same sets 2.3 sd 1.3k recovery 1.8 crit resistance 35k max magic

    It's crazy

    Battle lvl is stupid dumb in this game and I'm sure you know how to play that lowe lvl DK like a pro as well and if anyone did not know who you where you could just dump on kids without them even know your at cap
  • Mancombe_Nosehair
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    Are your skills maxed out? I.e. if you are wearing heavy armour, is the skill at 50? The same for your weapon and class skills too. It could be because you allocated some of your skill points too late. It this is the reason, you increase skills faster the more you have of a skill type on your active bar. Using weapon swap to the ones you need before completing a quest will help.
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