Nerf destruction skills ultimate

GreenSoup2HoT

The argument over destro ultimate has been brought up time and time again. Players will defend whats strong and its a shame. The ultimate is not balance whatsoever in comparison to the other ultimates. In pve the dps single target for meteror and destro ult is the same.... but in pvp nobody will stand in a meteor aoe for the full duration but the destro ult gives it to you by just sticking to your target.

The simplest and easiest change to the desto ultimate for pvp is to revert back to the pts damage model before the forum community bashed on the ultimate before even realising its group potenail. The ultimate was balanced in pts and is now unbalanced due to forum whining.

Until this happens group play in cryodill is terrible due to the ultimate. It should be a sustained dps aoe thats impactful in group play but it got ramped up to high and now its become a burst aoe ultimate better then soul tether.

Guild Wars 2 had it right.... sad to see the potenail for ESO to have a great group pvp environment be trashed because of 1 imbalance.

DoccEff

Don't nerf the damage, but make Eye of the Storm not stackable. The main problem about this is simply that it stacks endlessly.
Get 12 ppl to synchronise it. Use immovability-pots. Rek everything, no other skills needed. Run away till your ultis are full again. Repeat.
Making this skill not stackable would defenitly fix this bs.

The people defending this cancer are either not playing PvP themselves or are part of destro-trains.

Vajrak

On the Attacking side: Solar disturbance (to negate the RUN AWAY! option) + bonewall (damage return) + Vicious Death + magicka harness + Explosive Charge gapclose AFTER dropping disturbance on a point + Solar barrage spam = similar result when you stack multiple variants of it together.

On the Defending side:

Templar ult: Remembrance, cuts the damage on it incredibly low.

Magicka harness can be used in conjunction with your own heals/shields from class skill, and since destro ult does magic damage -- the ult will keep charging up your magicka pool.

Healing Ritual spam --- negates the damage AND gives ultimate to anyone who got brought low by it.

Breath of Life spam -- as stated multiple times, though to lesser effect, and honestly, there is enough time in the telegraph on EotS for Healing Ritual to be used.

Reviving Barrier cuts the hell out of its damage and lets you spam heals.

Resto ult: either morph -- cuts the damage and keeps your party fighting shape AND damage boosted

Fighters Guild: Circle of Protection (either morph) -- cuts the damage even further

Energy Orb multiple spam (so 3-4 people backbar it, switch to cast across each other vs the bomber)

Blood altar at your cap point -- for the minor lifesteal since you are goign to be in that spot for a bit anyway (thus allowing bombers a target, and you a way to gain hp back for attacking them)

Dual Wield: Blade Cloak (to reduce AoE damage even further)

Two Handed: Brawler -- for a spammable damage + damage shield (also stackable with other shields) to ride through it

DK Ult: Magma Armor --- because again, damage shield

Sorc: Negate Magic (either morph) to stop follow-up casts once they are inside, and either heal with the HoT or take the bomber down faster with the DoT

Soul Shatter and hug the bomber -- because if they kill you, you are going to explode on them also.

Vampire: Elusive Mist

Equipment Counters: Whitestrake's 5x -- because again, damage shield (low hp trigger @30%)

Almalexia's Mercy 5x -- because taking damage with 30% chance to pop an AoE heal

Buffer of the Swift: 5% damage reduction from players + damage shield proc

Dreamer's Mantle: HP trigger heal

Lamia's Song: Bonus heal for ult usage (in conjunction with any of the ults above)

Leki's Focus 5x (so backbar switch) -- 25% reduced AoE damage

Withcmans Amror + ult + vigor spam

Mazzatun set: turns you into a dirty lizard man -- also heal proc hp trigger

Brands of Imperium: damage shield proc

...there's actually more, but I'm tried of listing potential counters and combinations.

You are going for group pvp -- then set up as a group, and have a few people running either main or backbar negations/counters to tactics you are worried about (like bombers).

If you can't be bothered to have counters -- either don't pvp, or accept you will die to the same tactic often.

agingerinohio

Oh what do you know, another nerf this and that thread because of PvP. The destro staff pve ulti is fine and needs to be unaltered considering the cost. If someone is using that in PVP they are doing it wrong considering the PvP version (eye of the storm) is weak in PVE. Eye of the Storm can be avoided via dodging or using a gap closer to escape the individual using it.
I ran into a fellow in the sewers that tried to overtake me with eye of the storm and ambushed a rat to get away from him. xD In zerges full of of these eye of the storm folks I will do the same to anything nearby that doesn't have said ulti on them. Every class has a gap closer in one shape or form available to them through the various skill lines except for mag warden (correct me if I'm wrong).

jlboozer

Have a Snickers bud....you're not you when your hungry.

-no more nerfs, only buffs-

DHale

Pro tip: do not stand next to the nine other players.

Durham

It's not about roll dodging that does no good if your the gap closing target.. Also it's unblockable that's freaking huge lol... 250 ult you say hmmm DK standard is 250... which one would you choose... There is a reason it's the most used ult.. it's freaking awsome when used in an organized way and out performs all other aoe ults...

It does need to tweaked a little for example no gap closing with it..

seedubsrun

How about just to change things up a bit, we get some suggestions on changing or buffing some other skills to better counter eots? I'll start: One of the negate morphs becomes roaming like eots. Negaters can burst into an eots zerg and shut em down.

MehrunesFlagon

DoccEff wrote: »

Don't nerf the damage, but make Eye of the Storm not stackable. The main problem about this is simply that it stacks endlessly.
Get 12 ppl to synchronise it. Use immovability-pots. Rek everything, no other skills needed. Run away till your ultis are full again. Repeat.
Making this skill not stackable would defenitly fix this bs.

The people defending this cancer are either not playing PvP themselves or are part of destro-trains.

that would ruin the skill

Vajrak

Plautis wants the game to pay itself, so that no situation awareness needs to be had in PVP, nor any consideration of running the myriad counters of destro ult builds, some of which are listed above.

pod88kk

You sound like someone who enjoys standing in red circles and blaming healers

Jake1576

@Wrobel dont forget about this thread before the next update #nerf destruction ultimate next update stamina literally blows now do to all the nerfs you have done to it time for magicka uses to feel the nerf hammer lol

Cherryblossom

@PlautisCarvain
then build to survive, if you are running around with very little health so you can do as much damage as you can, then yes expect to die.
Bombers very rarely kill me, but I'm very successful at killing them, but I have 27k health and they don't do that much damage.
On the EU we have a very successful @Master_Kas but so far, of more attempts than a care to remember he's killed me twice (last night being one those times you scamp, I was in my bag looking for food at the time!). I'm quite sure he will confirm that he's looking for low health victims in a group to be killed and then detonate with VD to wipe large groups.

This is probably the only skill which forces Zergs to spread out, we don't need this nerf'd.

Feanor

Honestly, the destro ult is the least problem PvP has right now. When everyone is faction stacking and attacking everything with 50+ players it doesn't matter which skills are used.

AbysmalGhul

I remember seeing this guy who was wearing a dress and hammering out light attacks while we were defending a fort. Then all of a sudden, he jumped off the keep's wall and obliterated a Zerg festival with Eye of the Storm. It was a beautiful sight as they all stood still and took it. He T-bagged everyone of them afterwards.