Black Dyes

reiverx · August 2017

After I unlocked Legate's Black, it's the only one I use.

LadyNalcarya · August 2017

@reiverx wrote: »

After I unlocked Legate's Black, it's the only one I use.

Just curious: how long did it take?

reiverx · August 2017

Well, you make AP a whole lot faster now, after they increased how much you get for taking resources.

I've played since day one on PS4. I'd say 95% of it has been PVP. I hit the General rank in May. That's a lot of time but most of that AP was before the increase. Legate is the rank before General. Also, I spent a ton of time playing Dark Souls.

If you get in a half-decent group or even just follow the zerg, you can expect anywhere from 1 to 6 million AP in a 30 day campaign. More if you get into a very focused group that is farming for AP and doing very little else.

I finished the last campaign with 16 million AP but I had Midyear Mayhem on my side.

AhPook_Is_Here · August 2017

Adjust the gamma and brightness on your game. There is a display test that has you eyeball out a few logos and the point of that is to set black levels. Most people likely over set their brightness. Since it sounds like you are mainly a pve player no harm in some darkness in the shadows!

Ajintse · August 2017

Elrosahir wrote: »

I uploadet, to compare both colors, for you a pic.

On the left is the legat black and on right coldharbour

Thank you!! I definetly going for the Legate black. But Level 40 in PvP

I'm level 8 at the moment.

bloodthirstyvampire · August 2017

Ekstak21 wrote: »

BlazingDynamo wrote: »

Coldharbour Ash Black and Legate Black are the only two that exist in the game. I don't have Legate Black but I heard it's the better of the two

Ah, thanks for sharing the info! Well, I might be doing PvP even tho I am not planning to aim on PvP in ESO. But for that one Dye I will ^^.

Heck you might enjoy it I went in for motifs and never left

LadyNalcarya · August 2017

reiverx wrote: »

Well, you make AP a whole lot faster now, after they increased how much you get for taking resources.

I've played since day one on PS4. I'd say 95% of it has been PVP. I hit the General rank in May. That's a lot of time but most of that AP was before the increase. Legate is the rank before General. Also, I spent a ton of time playing Dark Souls.

If you get in a half-decent group or even just follow the zerg, you can expect anywhere from 1 to 6 million AP in a 30 day campaign. More if you get into a very focused group that is farming for AP and doing very little else.

I finished the last campaign with 16 million AP but I had Midyear Mayhem on my side.

Thanks for the info.

Looks like I'll have to pick one character for pvp instead of playing a bunch of alts.

Glamdring · August 2017

I mostly play solo and some smallscale and I net around 2.5 mill AP every 30 day reset. So thats around 15 months for Legate rank.

Khenarthi · August 2017

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

reiverx wrote: »

Well, you make AP a whole lot faster now, after they increased how much you get for taking resources.

I've played since day one on PS4. I'd say 95% of it has been PVP. I hit the General rank in May. That's a lot of time but most of that AP was before the increase. Legate is the rank before General. Also, I spent a ton of time playing Dark Souls.

If you get in a half-decent group or even just follow the zerg, you can expect anywhere from 1 to 6 million AP in a 30 day campaign. More if you get into a very focused group that is farming for AP and doing very little else.

I finished the last campaign with 16 million AP but I had Midyear Mayhem on my side.

Thanks for the info. Looks like I'll have to pick one character for pvp instead of playing a bunch of alts.

I play a bunch of alts, only one of them goes into Cyro every once in a while (the others just go to complete quests/skyshards/delves). In 3 and a half years of playing I made it to rank 21 with the help of the Midyear Mayhem... mostly to unlock new dyes. It will take me several Mayhem events to get to Legate

CherryCake · August 2017

Elrosahir wrote: »

I uploadet, to compare both colors, for you a pic.

On the left is the legat black and on right coldharbour

How do you get your eyes to be all cool like that?

Mojmir · August 2017

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Elrosahir wrote: »

I uploadet, to compare both colors, for you a pic.

On the left is the legat black and on right coldharbour

How do you get your eyes to be all cool like that?

Sorc skill

Glamdring · August 2017

Mojmir wrote: »

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Elrosahir wrote: »

I uploadet, to compare both colors, for you a pic.

On the left is the legat black and on right coldharbour

How do you get your eyes to be all cool like that?

Sorc skill

Thought it was mages guild/inner light?

QuebraRegra · August 2017

BlazingDynamo wrote: »

Coldharbour Ash Black and Legate Black are the only two that exist in the game. I don't have Legate Black but I heard it's the better of the two

it is, but good luck getting LEGATE's BLACK

COLD HARBOUR is far easier to obtain and decent.

starkerealm · August 2017

Glamdring wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Elrosahir wrote: »

I uploadet, to compare both colors, for you a pic.

On the left is the legat black and on right coldharbour

How do you get your eyes to be all cool like that?

Sorc skill

Thought it was mages guild/inner light?

Used to be. Magelight got changed... way back. Whenever they got rid of the disco balls. Now, you get glowing eyes from the one of the Sorc bound armor morphs.

starkerealm · August 2017

method__01 wrote: »

the same color looks different on different gear, try some variations
from my pov, Coldharbour black is really deep black not grey
also the costumes from store or the ones ive unlocked are black*

edit:when painted*

Yeah, this is a really important thing to understand. Dyes are not consistent, when you jump from item to item. You can kind of predict what you'll get sometimes, but not always. Coldharbour Ash Black will actually mat out the reflective channel on some gear. For example, if you're wearing metal armor, it will mute that down. But, at the same time, if you try to put it on something like glass, it won't do what you want, and will end up a light gray. (On the glass surfaces themselves.)

MLGProPlayer · August 2017

MornaBaine wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

ESO's colour palette is very washed out. All blacks look grey. I use Reshade to correct that. The black in the screenshots below is Coldharbour Ash Black. As you can tell, the red (Daedric Red) and gold (Ayleid Gold) look a lot richer with Reshade as well.

Also note that colours are richer on metalic materials. Leather and cloth will always appear grey.

Vanilla ESO (everything looks washed out):

Corrected colours with Reshade:

Is Reshade an add-on? I have to admit that looks WAY better!

It's a separate program (works with any game).

I use my own preset (which is a modified version of someone else's). Installation instructions are there.

If you find it to be too dark at night (I like it because it's more immersive, but it's not for everyone), you can use the version in the spoiler instead.

Just copy all the text into a notepad file and save it in your game client folder (name it whatever you want). You can then select that preset in Reshade.

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You can toggle Reshade on and off in game by pressing "scroll lock". You can also select different presets on the fly and make changes to the settings. The program will run you through a tutorial of all the features when you install.

And of course, feel free to browse through all the other presets as well:

https://sfx.thelazy.net/games/game/467/

and

http://www.nexusmods.com/elderscrollsonline/mods/searchresults/?src_cat=18

Just make sure the preset is compatible with Reshade 3.0 (basically anything released in late 2016 and onwards). You can transfer older presets to 3.0 but you have to do it manually.

Mettaricana · August 2017

Its zos new agenda make all costumes dye like a sack of crap then sell epic dye stamps to compensate

MLGProPlayer · August 2017

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Glamdring wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Glamdring wrote: »

Legate Black is without question the best black in game.

Here you have the Alliance war ranks and to reach Legate u need 30 million AP:

http://esoacademy.com/alliance-war-ranks/

Coldharbour Ash Black is almost identical. Almost everyone has it unlocked too (you get it by completing the main story). Grinding for Legate takes ages.

"almost" OP asked for a really black dye and i gave the answer. Legate Black is not only more black than coldharbour ash it also has a shine to it that only the best dyes have. If you are passionate about how your armours look and u want the best dyes then u have to start pvping, its no other way.

I could be wrong, but doesn't Coldharbour Black also shine? I know a few of the other super easy ones shine as well (I think Thalmour Black was one of them).

I don't have ESO+ to test right now (I know the bottom part of the Ordinator robe costume shows correct colour and shine).

Coldharbour ash black has a slight sepia undertone on many items. Its also not as potent as Legate Black, it looks washed out on certain items.
I dont really understand why they locked the best black dye behind relatively high pvp rank. After all, black is a very basic color and is used pretty often. Other basic stuff like caltrops and vigor is a joke, but this dye is out of the reach for the majority of pve players.

I think all dyes should be unlockable via PvE and PvP avenues.

MLGProPlayer · August 2017

Elrosahir wrote: »

I uploadet, to compare both colors, for you a pic.

On the left is the legat black and on right coldharbour

You're right, Legate's is a lot better. Still not worth the 100+ hours I'll need to grind it though.

idk · August 2017

Elrosahir wrote: »

I uploadet, to compare both colors, for you a pic.

On the left is the legat black and on right coldharbour

Good comparison. Both are essentially black. Of course both will show some grey, otherwise the armor would look flat and boring.

For OP, your solution is rather simple. Look at the dies available in the die station, sort it by hue (whatever the choice is) and look at the darkest blacks available. Really simple.

MornaBaine · August 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Glamdring wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Glamdring wrote: »

Legate Black is without question the best black in game.

Here you have the Alliance war ranks and to reach Legate u need 30 million AP:

http://esoacademy.com/alliance-war-ranks/

Coldharbour Ash Black is almost identical. Almost everyone has it unlocked too (you get it by completing the main story). Grinding for Legate takes ages.

"almost" OP asked for a really black dye and i gave the answer. Legate Black is not only more black than coldharbour ash it also has a shine to it that only the best dyes have. If you are passionate about how your armours look and u want the best dyes then u have to start pvping, its no other way.

I could be wrong, but doesn't Coldharbour Black also shine? I know a few of the other super easy ones shine as well (I think Thalmour Black was one of them).

I don't have ESO+ to test right now (I know the bottom part of the Ordinator robe costume shows correct colour and shine).

Coldharbour ash black has a slight sepia undertone on many items. Its also not as potent as Legate Black, it looks washed out on certain items.
I dont really understand why they locked the best black dye behind relatively high pvp rank. After all, black is a very basic color and is used pretty often. Other basic stuff like caltrops and vigor is a joke, but this dye is out of the reach for the majority of pve players.

I think all dyes should be unlockable via PvE and PvP avenues.

THIS! ^^ In a game that is supposedly "play your way" this is unacceptable. There need to be PVE and PVP ways to achieve ALL dyes.

Taleof2Cities · August 2017

MornaBaine wrote: »

THIS! ^^ In a game that is supposedly "play your way" this is unacceptable. There need to be PVE and PVP ways to achieve ALL dyes.

I support this idea also.

(Even if I'm getting pretty close to unlocking Legate Black on my healer anyway ...)

notimetocare · August 2017

MornaBaine wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Glamdring wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Glamdring wrote: »

Legate Black is without question the best black in game.

Here you have the Alliance war ranks and to reach Legate u need 30 million AP:

http://esoacademy.com/alliance-war-ranks/

Coldharbour Ash Black is almost identical. Almost everyone has it unlocked too (you get it by completing the main story). Grinding for Legate takes ages.

"almost" OP asked for a really black dye and i gave the answer. Legate Black is not only more black than coldharbour ash it also has a shine to it that only the best dyes have. If you are passionate about how your armours look and u want the best dyes then u have to start pvping, its no other way.

I could be wrong, but doesn't Coldharbour Black also shine? I know a few of the other super easy ones shine as well (I think Thalmour Black was one of them).

I don't have ESO+ to test right now (I know the bottom part of the Ordinator robe costume shows correct colour and shine).

Coldharbour ash black has a slight sepia undertone on many items. Its also not as potent as Legate Black, it looks washed out on certain items.
I dont really understand why they locked the best black dye behind relatively high pvp rank. After all, black is a very basic color and is used pretty often. Other basic stuff like caltrops and vigor is a joke, but this dye is out of the reach for the majority of pve players.

I think all dyes should be unlockable via PvE and PvP avenues.

THIS! ^^ In a game that is supposedly "play your way" this is unacceptable. There need to be PVE and PVP ways to achieve ALL dyes.

Play your way ≠ get everything your way

Ajintse · August 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Elrosahir wrote: »

I uploadet, to compare both colors, for you a pic.

On the left is the legat black and on right coldharbour

Good comparison. Both are essentially black. Of course both will show some grey, otherwise the armor would look flat and boring.

For OP, your solution is rather simple. Look at the dies available in the die station, sort it by hue (whatever the choice is) and look at the darkest blacks available. Really simple.

That is basically the best option indeed. Thank you!

EttinTheBreton · August 2017

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

Adjust the gamma and brightness on your game. There is a display test that has you eyeball out a few logos and the point of that is to set black levels. Most people likely over set their brightness. Since it sounds like you are mainly a pve player no harm in some darkness in the shadows!

Yes, I wanted to suggest this as well. Where the middle directions say, "Adjust until the middle logo is barely visible," take that to mean that you should decrease the brightness (called Gamma in the settings menu) until you cannot see that *middle* logo at all, and then move the slider one click to the right so that is is barely visible. This is closer to the true representation of colors and brightness in the game.

If the middle logo is always visible, decrease the brightness in your monitor settings, or otherwise adjust the brightness/color settings and just make sure that you are not making everything too too bright or dark. True darkness and colors is nice

Druid40 · August 2017

I do not envy your potential journey to Legate Black. I just got mine like a month or so ago. If you find PVP to be an annoyance, like I do, being in an AP farming group of 6-12 will make it much more tolerable. If you make 150K-300K AP a day, it shouldn't take too long.