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Which class is the most powerful overall in open world PVP?

Skoomah
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Let's get a robust discussion going. Keep it clean and friendly please. Let's see how balanced the classes are based on poll results.
Edited by Skoomah on August 6, 2017 3:41PM

Which class is the most powerful overall in open world PVP? 247 votes

Stam DK
4%
ErilAqBallzy321Merkabehku5hJohnRingoJurand80Wrecking_Blow_SpamUrbanMonkStrawberryKitsunePrincess_CiriscipionumatiaRodneyRegis 12 votes
Mag DK
7%
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Stamplar
1%
MetemsycosisMirkoZgeneralmyrick 3 votes
Magplar
4%
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Stam Sorc
4%
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Mag Sorc
51%
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Stam NB
17%
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Mag NB
4%
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Stam Warden
1%
BalgostO_LYKOSTravestynoxIEatCivics 4 votes
Mag Warden
4%
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  • Keep_Door
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    Being honest, it depends heavily on the player.
  • GrumpyDuckling
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    Edit: read wrong, thought it said PVE.
    Edited by GrumpyDuckling on August 6, 2017 3:45PM
  • Skoomah
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    Stam NB
    I vote Stam NB. The stealth mechanic is extremely powerful. There are setups that can slip in an out combat at will. They have 3k stam regen, 1.5k mag regen, and hit burst well over 12k-15k over 1-2 seconds. If you survive the burst and reveal them from stealth, the NB turns a corner and stealths right back up again. They come right back in for their 2nd round of burst and you're dead. If you encounter a group of 2-4 of the setups in open world, you're done son.
    Edited by Skoomah on August 6, 2017 3:49PM
  • Turelus
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    Depends on too many variables, there isn't an "I win everything" class no matter how much some people believe there is.

    It depends so much on your own skill, what you want to be doing with the class and what gear/skills you have and even then whatever you've set up for will have some counter if the enemy brings it.
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  • Fignutz821
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    Stam NB
    Stam NB proctard followed very closely by mag sorc that spams mages wrath and causes health desync
    Edited by Fignutz821 on August 6, 2017 4:01PM
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  • Beardimus
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    Magplar
    Haha so the nerf Sorc brigade vote but don't comment..I can hear the battle drums now the call to arms they will descend soon
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  • Vapirko
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    Mag Sorc
    Definitely looking forward to my stamblade hitting level 50
  • dsalter
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    Mag Sorc
    as a mag sorc myself our ability to hammer down a huge amount of damage reliably with a little sprinkle of RNG (for frag proc) and repeatedly, thank daedra for curse explosions being so potent and reliable and mage fury for being so overkill
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  • Tryxus
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    Why am I not surprised at the results...? >_>
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  • Jitterbug
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    Mag Sorc
    Turelus wrote: »
    Depends on too many variables, there isn't an "I win everything" class no matter how much some people believe there is.

    It depends so much on your own skill, what you want to be doing with the class and what gear/skills you have and even then whatever you've set up for will have some counter if the enemy brings it.

    So youre saying sorc then?
  • Strider_Roshin
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    Mag Sorc
    I found magsorc to be the easiest. Stamblade is a close second but there's a couple of factors that make the magsorc shine:

    1) inexpensive yet incredibly powerful damage shield. Unlike dodge rolling, cloak, and healing; damage shields are always dependable, powerful, and easier on your resources than say dodging, and blocking.

    2) Both Nightblades and Sorcs have great burst. A magsorc's burst comes from abilities that you can use on demand. Whereas a stamblades burst is built upon activating their spectral bow, and their ultimate.

    3) okay I personally think Shadow Image is way more awesome, and potentially more powerful than streak. However, streak you can use reactively, and mindlessly. Shadow image requires foresight, and strategic placement. You also need a target to cast Shadow image as well.

    4) The freaking destro ult.
    Edited by Strider_Roshin on August 6, 2017 4:36PM
  • ssewallb14_ESO
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    Mag Sorc
    It's mainly because of Bolt Escape. Shields aren't as great as people seem to think, and Sorc burst is very easy to predict and avoid. The ability to just leave the fight whenever you want is the strongest thing to have open world. Burst and defensive mobility are the keys to open world.

    If you gave every magicka spec streak, probably Magplar or Magden.
    Edited by ssewallb14_ESO on August 6, 2017 4:43PM
  • Muttsmutt
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    Mag Sorc
    balanced answers, mirroring the in-game balance. : )
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  • ofSunhold
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    Some class/specs are more difficult than others, but all are powerful in the right context.

    Yes, even that one.
    Classes that don't need any class ability nerfs: Nightblades, Dragonknights, Sorcs, Templars, Wardens.
  • Yakidafi
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    Mag Sorc
    No nerf needed to start with.
    I found sorc easiest to learn. It has always been a top performing class. I also have the hardest time fighting sorcs.
    But it is always up to the player you fight really.
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  • templesus
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    Mag Sorc
    Shields are arguably the greatest defense in the game, arguably greatest burst in the game with curse frag mages wrath, access to the two most overperforming magicka ultimates destro and resto ultimate, arguably greatest mobility with streak and numerous more defensive abilities in mines, defensive rune etc. Why they haven't been nerfed yet only lord knows.
  • Elrosahir
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  • Strider_Roshin
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    Mag Sorc
    templesus wrote: »
    Shields are arguably the greatest defense in the game, arguably greatest burst in the game with curse frag mages wrath, access to the two most overperforming magicka ultimates destro and resto ultimate, arguably greatest mobility with streak and numerous more defensive abilities in mines, defensive rune etc. Why they haven't been nerfed yet only lord knows.

    Well it's no real secret that the magsorc is a favorite at ZOS. Rich Lambert mains a magsorc, and do you remember the ESO Live they aired where the devs were dueling? All but one was a magsorc. And we all know it's hard for the majority of people to say their own class is OP.

  • mb10
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    Magplar
    I voted magplar but i thought you meant from the stand point of a good player
    BUT its a lot more difficult to be a good mag plar than it is to be a good sorc


    Mag sorc is by far the easiest in the game, its actually a joke. I never play my mag sorc because of how stupidly easy it is. I just personally get no pleasure from doing something on easy mode and prefer a challenge.

    I wouldnt be surprised if ZOS buffed them in the next patch after HotR
  • CyrusArya
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    Stam NB
    Stamina nightblade and magicka sorc are the only contenders here for the top spot, as these are the only classes with high burst and options for total disengage.

    Now between the two, magicka sorc is easier to pull off and more accessible. But if both are played at the absolute top tier, stamina nightblade is superior. The reason for this is that the stamblades damage profile is quicker and front loaded where as the sorcs burst is on the back end of their combo. As such, stamblade can quickly eliminate opponents faster in a 1vX situation than a sorc can. Additionally, and equally importantly, the stamblades burst is much less predictable than a sorcs.
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  • KeiruNicrom
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    Mag Sorc
    Open battle mag sorc has many tools. Good cc, high burst, DoTs and a delayed execute(which is propably my reason why sorcs are retarted OP shield stacking can be countered, an execute that triggers while they damage you with other spells and also cant be dodged is unbalanced especially when they have an execute passive too) and some decent healing and resource return.

    Stam NB is best in ganking but once the gank fails or defended against they are easy prey
  • Merkabeh
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    Stam DK
    StamDK...so survivable!

    Yeah, low kill power when tanking...but can live through a ton.

    Yeah, I like defense!
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  • Karmanorway
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    Depends on the player... btw is this just a stealthy method to get mag sorc nerfed?
  • Strider_Roshin
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    Mag Sorc
    Depends on the player... btw is this just a stealthy method to get mag sorc nerfed?

    Clearly they're not over-performing or anything lol
  • Zer0oo
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    Stam NB
    For solo open world pvp stam nb is the best since cloak, shadow image,medium armor mobility and unpredicable burst from stealth is just too good.
    Second best class is mag sorc good mobility due to streak but shadow image, cloak and dodging beats in my opinion the toolkit that sorcs have especial if you are outnumbered.
    Third place all other stam classes due to shuffle snare removal
    All other magica classes are unplayable since you do not have any mobility with all the snares.

    For group play mag templer or mag warden are just extrem op and no other class comes even close.
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  • MirkoZ
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    Stamplar
    Depends on the player... btw is this just a stealthy method to get mag sorc nerfed?

    I think yes , let them nerf sorc so they won't complain anymore , finaly :\
  • Joy_Division
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  • Savos_Saren
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    I hope this doesn't turn into a Nerf Sorc thread. I main mDKs... I only want buffs to other classes to bring balance.

    That being said:

    I see a lot of members whose main character is a magSorc who didn't actually vote or are saying "depends on the player..."

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  • Idinuse
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    Mag Sorc
    That's why I level one right now.
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  • gepe87
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    I got better play with a Magplar (and more kills). Even people say magsorc is easy mode, i find it more difficult to play and boring than templar.
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