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ZOS, IT IS TIME. PATH OF DARKNESS PHYSICAL DAMAGE MORPH PLEASE!!! PVE DPS
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Title says it all. Currently out of the 15 Nightblade skills... 9 skills are magicka only, 6 skills have 1 of each stamina or magicka morph available, and 0 skills are stamina only. There really needs to be a poison or physical damage morph of this skill. It would allow stamblades to compete with stam dks in PVE dps, considering they have claw. I think it would be best to combine twisting's damage with refreshing into one skill making room for a poison/physical morph, therefore buffing both magicka and stamina nightblades slightly. Similar to what happened with relentless focus last year 
Many people are getting very angry assuming one of the current paths core effects would be eliminated. The suggestion is to combine the stats of both current paths into one skill, buffing it... Therefore making room for a poison/physical morph... Path already pales in comparison to other magicka ground based dots like wall of elements or liquid lightning. Combine that with the fact magblades are losing scathing mage, I say combining both current paths would be a great buff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NoAjlhmOwo
Please leave your opinion on if you agree or not, and why.
Edited by Shadzilla on August 5, 2017 5:39PM Many people are getting very angry assuming one of the current paths core effects would be eliminated. The suggestion is to combine the stats of both current paths into one skill, buffing it... Therefore making room for a poison/physical morph... Path already pales in comparison to other magicka ground based dots like wall of elements or liquid lightning. Combine that with the fact magblades are losing scathing mage, I say combining both current paths would be a great buff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NoAjlhmOwoPlease leave your opinion on if you agree or not, and why.
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ChildOfLight✭✭✭StamNB is already better than stamDK in everything but tanking atm. Pvp and PvE wise.
If you want a stam morph for the Pact of Darkness, to pair the claw (that is literally one of the two skills stamDks can use from their entire class trees), well I want something for the StamDk to pair with NBs' Surprise Attack and Incapacitating Stakes that are extremely f... op.Edited by ChildOfLight on August 3, 2017 4:30AMPC EU
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✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Mag would still have either twisting or refreshing... I did not ask for both morphs to be stam, just one of them.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Title says it all. There really needs to be a poison morph of this skill. It would allow stamblades to compete with stam dks considering they have claw.
Please leave your opinion on if you agree or not, and why.
...but Nightblades don't have a poison synergy. If you want to play a venomous character, that is a stamina knight. For all the flashy murdery bits, poisoning people just isn't the NB's modus operandi.2 -
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✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »
I also don't see the point with the skill as a stam version. I just can't make it fit into any pve or pvp skill setup I know of
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crobarXIII✭✭✭No thank you! Leave it as isPS4-NA-1000+cp
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✭@Dymence @ChildOfLight Can either of you link me a stamblade parse pulling more than 65k single target please? Just to see how much "better" they are. From my experiences stam dk pull much higher numbers due to the fact they have claw.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭@Dymence @ChildOfLight Can either of you link me a stamblade parse pulling more than 65k single target please? Just to see how much "better" they are. From my experiences stam dk pull much higher numbers due to the fact they have claw.
I'm pretty sure stam dks have better single target dps than nb, nb is that class that makes ppl salty due to gankers so players wouldn't want them to get buffed in pve as it would affect pvp as well sadly4 -
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✭✭✭I want magicka morph of bow skills and use my magical spectral bow٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
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✭✭✭✭✭ChildOfLight wrote: »StamNB is already better than stamDK in everything but tanking atm. Pvp and PvE wise.
If you want a stam morph for the Pact of Darkness, to pair the claw (that is literally one of the two skills stamDks can use from their entire class trees), well I want something for the StamDk to pair with NBs' Surprise Attack and Incapacitating Stakes that are extremely f... op.
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crobarXIII✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Mag would still have either twisting or refreshing... I did not ask for both morphs to be stam, just one of them.
My nb tank uses refreshing path & the times I decide to change him to dps for a change of pace I like the option of being able to use either depending on what I want to do. So in my opinion a stamina morph is a bad idea.PS4-NA-1000+cp
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Supernatural✭✭✭✭@Dymence @ChildOfLight Can either of you link me a stamblade parse pulling more than 65k single target please? Just to see how much "better" they are. From my experiences stam dk pull much higher numbers due to the fact they have claw.
The main reason Streak One achieved such a high DPS parse on his DK is because of all the buffs and debuffs his group was providing. I am pretty sure a stamblade can get pretty the same numbers under the same conditions.Edited by Supernatural on August 3, 2017 1:44PMMaelstrom Arena - World's First Nightblade 600k Score - 02/18/20173 -
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✭Every class-skill is based of magicka to start with. I do agree that there have to be more stamina-morphs, but then you have to redo all classes, not just the NB only.Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
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✭starkerealm wrote: »Title says it all. There really needs to be a poison morph of this skill. It would allow stamblades to compete with stam dks considering they have claw.
Please leave your opinion on if you agree or not, and why.
...but Nightblades don't have a poison synergy. If you want to play a venomous character, that is a stamina knight. For all the flashy murdery bits, poisoning people just isn't the NB's modus operandi.
havent you seen the other thread? NB dont leave people alive long enough for poison to tick.0 -
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Nightblades allready have the most stam morphs. Not that I'd mind more for my stamblade.1 -
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✭✭✭How would that skill translate to a stamina ability ?
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✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Title says it all. There really needs to be a poison morph of this skill. It would allow stamblades to compete with stam dks considering they have claw.
Please leave your opinion on if you agree or not, and why.
...but Nightblades don't have a poison synergy. If you want to play a venomous character, that is a stamina knight. For all the flashy murdery bits, poisoning people just isn't the NB's modus operandi.
havent you seen the other thread? NB dont leave people alive long enough for poison to tick.
I main a NB.
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✭Shafting magblades for an un-needed DPS gain for stamina is unacceptable.Edited by Vercingetorix on August 3, 2017 1:59PM“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”5 -
Foxic✭✭✭✭✭Shad it's crazy how much pve complaining you do when you have no top end experience. You're asking to shaft magblades so the second highest stam dps can compete with the first by a measily few K single target. Endless hail is already the best ground dot in the game and caltrops got a major buff. So you're asking for a major aoe buff which would put Mag even further behind just so stamblade can get 2-3K more single target to compete with the most broken class in the game.
Also that 64K single stam dk you referenced earlier is on my raid team, and our stamblade wearing 2 buff sets only lost by 4K single.Mechanically Challenged, PCNA competitive raid guild
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✭✭I like keeping it magic, but if the heals could be buffed a little bit so they be decent on StamBlade that would be good.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I vote yes with the full weight of my ESO+ power. More stam morphs for every class if it was up to me, except warden, they have enough.
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TheStealthDude✭✭✭✭No. Stam vs magicka morphs are already pretty boring in that you are pigeon-holed into one or the other, depending on your class. I like that most morphs provide meaningful choices, where both are usable. By changing more abilities to have both a magicka and a Stam morph, you are removing meaningful choices from the game. And nightblade already lacks in this department enough as is, due to having the most stamina morphs of any class.Edited by TheStealthDude on August 3, 2017 2:07PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Mag would still have either twisting or refreshing... I did not ask for both morphs to be stam, just one of them.
Which means magicka would probably be left with refreshing and hence nerfed.
Not suggesting there shouldn't be a stam morph. Merely pointing out the obvious path Zos would follow.1 -
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✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Mag would still have either twisting or refreshing... I did not ask for both morphs to be stam, just one of them.
Which means magicka would probably be left with refreshing and hence nerfed.
Not suggesting there shouldn't be a stam morph. Merely pointing out the obvious path Zos would follow.
The only way the OP's idea would work is if ZoS made Refreshing Path have the same damage as Twisting Path AND provide the heal. Then, you could have the other morph reworked to something like "Infectious Path" that deals disease damage.“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”2
