fix the vampire tattoos bug

PlautisCarvain

Seriously ZOS, I paid for those tattoos and I can't even saw them, or if they are very ugly and fade. Please fix this!

[Edited title for real world religion]

nikigwil

Yes this! Please

DocFrost72

^^^

Insomnia rex

Your body regenerates them away.

Cyn_v84

When I apply them on my vampire Khajiit, two things happen:
1. They fade to a light blue-ish color. Facial tats aren't even visible,
2. Her beautiful spots disappear!!!!

Maybe tats just aren't for the Khajiit?

DocFrost72

Insomnia rex wrote: »

Your body regenerates them away.

Tattoos don't "regenerate away"
(Video)
https://youtu.be/802ewntoCvw

A vampire with a tattoo would still have the dark black ink regardless of skin tone.

idk

Wouldn't that be for the love of the blood matron?

PlautisCarvain

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Wouldn't that be for the love of the blood matron?

lol of course

Insomnia rex

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Insomnia rex wrote: »

Your body regenerates them away.

Tattoos don't "regenerate away"
(Video)
https://youtu.be/802ewntoCvw

A vampire with a tattoo would still have the dark black ink regardless of skin tone.

I mean if i am meteored or slaughterfished that should at least be some kind of peeling. Would the body have tattoos afterwards? In Ryces universe even your hair would regenerate tot he exact state from when you where turned so i guess there it would. This needs an answer. If your video gives it i can't watch at work . ^^

DocFrost72

Insomnia rex wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Insomnia rex wrote: »

Your body regenerates them away.

Tattoos don't "regenerate away"
(Video)
https://youtu.be/802ewntoCvw

A vampire with a tattoo would still have the dark black ink regardless of skin tone.

I mean if i am meteored or slaughterfished that should at least be some kind of peeling. Would the body have tattoos afterwards? In Ryces universe even your hair would regenerate tot he exact state from when you where turned so i guess there it would. This needs an answer. If your video gives it i can't watch at work . ^^

If you were meteored or slaughterfish attacked you, being a vampire wouldn't be any different than any other mortal (or skin tone).

The video is from a great series called "because science" that tries to place scientific concepts onto all manner of entertainment media from comic books to movies to games.

This episode is the one where he explains how tattoos work, and how wolverine (a mutant with ultra regenerative healing properties) could get a tattoo because skin cell repairs aren't what gets rid of tattoos.

Insomnia rex

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Insomnia rex wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Insomnia rex wrote: »

Your body regenerates them away.

Tattoos don't "regenerate away"
(Video)
https://youtu.be/802ewntoCvw

A vampire with a tattoo would still have the dark black ink regardless of skin tone.

I mean if i am meteored or slaughterfished that should at least be some kind of peeling. Would the body have tattoos afterwards? In Ryces universe even your hair would regenerate tot he exact state from when you where turned so i guess there it would. This needs an answer. If your video gives it i can't watch at work . ^^

If you were meteored or slaughterfish attacked you, being a vampire wouldn't be any different than any other mortal (or skin tone).

The video is from a great series called "because science" that tries to place scientific concepts onto all manner of entertainment media from comic books to movies to games.

This episode is the one where he explains how tattoos work, and how wolverine (a mutant with ultra regenerative healing properties) could get a tattoo because skin cell repairs aren't what gets rid of tattoos.

That makes sense! But if you skin (edit: to the muscle) wolverine, would he have a tattoo afterwards?

agegarton

Insomnia rex wrote: »

Your body regenerates them away.

Working as intended

DocFrost72

Insomnia rex wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Insomnia rex wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Insomnia rex wrote: »

Your body regenerates them away.

Tattoos don't "regenerate away"
(Video)
https://youtu.be/802ewntoCvw

A vampire with a tattoo would still have the dark black ink regardless of skin tone.

I mean if i am meteored or slaughterfished that should at least be some kind of peeling. Would the body have tattoos afterwards? In Ryces universe even your hair would regenerate tot he exact state from when you where turned so i guess there it would. This needs an answer. If your video gives it i can't watch at work . ^^

If you were meteored or slaughterfish attacked you, being a vampire wouldn't be any different than any other mortal (or skin tone).

The video is from a great series called "because science" that tries to place scientific concepts onto all manner of entertainment media from comic books to movies to games.

This episode is the one where he explains how tattoos work, and how wolverine (a mutant with ultra regenerative healing properties) could get a tattoo because skin cell repairs aren't what gets rid of tattoos.

That makes sense! But if you skin (edit: to the muscle) wolverine, would he have a tattoo afterwards?

A great question. I'd assume no, as tattoos are visible from the surface by causing a rift in skin and inserting the ink there (kinda like how you can see your veins), but I'm no Kyle Hill. I have no science to settle that.

I do have the science to declare that no matter what regen or discoloration a vamp has, their tats are still fresh though!

MornaBaine

Working as intended. Sadly, the vampire skin is just a lazy overlay and that's why it ruins tats and makeup. Believe me, the playerbase has been begging them to fix this literally for FOUR YEARS now. Our pleas have fallen on deaf ears repeatedly.

DocFrost72

MornaBaine wrote: »

Working as intended. Sadly, the vampire skin is just a lazy overlay and that's why it ruins tats and makeup. Believe me, the playerbase has been begging them to fix this literally for FOUR YEARS now. Our pleas have fallen on deaf ears repeatedly.

Then we keep asking, respectfully and with reason and purpose

PS4_ZeColmeia

I for one am happy that they just stay on my damn vampire when they rezone. That bugged me to no end that until 2 patches ago, everytime I rezoned the tats would just fall off.

That said, I do really wish that the color of the tats would not fade under the vampire skin. Example: I put on amberplasm and the fire doesn't fade the tats it covers them. So I understand that the mechanics is that skins "cover" all markings, including body and face markings.

That all said, I would like to point out that I know the costume mechanics can be different depending on the item. Example: the Mayhem laurel hides all facial accessories, but does not replace hats from a costume. This is apparent on a costume that has a head piece as it doesn't drop the head piece like other hats do.

From my perspective this is either a bug, which is entirely too possible, or a different mechanic for this item. If its a mechanic it means they could change the behavior of any costume, ie vampire skin, to let tattoos be on top of the skin. This would really be preferrable on every race, but even more so on Khajiit's as it makes little sense that their fur pattern lightens, but even less sense when any race's tats fade.

MornaBaine

DocFrost72 wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Working as intended. Sadly, the vampire skin is just a lazy overlay and that's why it ruins tats and makeup. Believe me, the playerbase has been begging them to fix this literally for FOUR YEARS now. Our pleas have fallen on deaf ears repeatedly.

Then we keep asking, respectfully and with reason and purpose

I wish you could see my entire 4 year post history. LOL I'm not about to give up and it warms my little undead heart to see a new generation take up the cause.

Aziyade

It's not a bug if it's working as designed. If you don't want faded tattoos, don't be a vampire, seems pretty straightforward to me.

MornaBaine

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

I for one am happy that they just stay on my damn vampire when they rezone. That bugged me to no end that until 2 patches ago, everytime I rezoned the tats would just fall off.

That said, I do really wish that the color of the tats would not fade under the vampire skin. Example: I put on amberplasm and the fire doesn't fade the tats it covers them. So I understand that the mechanics is that skins "cover" all markings, including body and face markings.

That all said, I would like to point out that I know the costume mechanics can be different depending on the item. Example: the Mayhem laurel hides all facial accessories, but does not replace hats from a costume. This is apparent on a costume that has a head piece as it doesn't drop the head piece like other hats do.

From my perspective this is either a bug, which is entirely too possible, or a different mechanic for this item. If its a mechanic it means they could change the behavior of any costume, ie vampire skin, to let tattoos be on top of the skin. This would really be preferrable on every race, but even more so on Khajiit's as it makes little sense that their fur pattern lightens, but even less sense when any race's tats fade.

It would be really nice if they'd shift things so tats and makeup shows OVER the vampire skin. But in FOUR years of people bringing this up nothing has been done. SO, sadly, I don't have a lot of hope.

paulsimonps

MornaBaine wrote: »

Working as intended. Sadly, the vampire skin is just a lazy overlay and that's why it ruins tats and makeup. Believe me, the playerbase has been begging them to fix this literally for FOUR YEARS now. Our pleas have fallen on deaf ears repeatedly.

yea the fact that even something like makeup that is applied on top of the skin still gets faded out is ridiculous. It should be changed even if it is working as intended or not.

AhPook_Is_Here

This is the only thing I don't like about vampires! Free their tats!

MornaBaine

paulsimonps wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Working as intended. Sadly, the vampire skin is just a lazy overlay and that's why it ruins tats and makeup. Believe me, the playerbase has been begging them to fix this literally for FOUR YEARS now. Our pleas have fallen on deaf ears repeatedly.

yea the fact that even something like makeup that is applied on top of the skin still gets faded out is ridiculous. It should be changed even if it is working as intended or not.

Completely agreed. I don't know why they thought anyone would like this.

Runschei

And while we're at it, give us an option to just hide the vampire skin in general

FakeFox

Pretty sure this isn't a bug, but I still don't like it....

Pixel_Zealot

It's definitely a bug, 'cause some tattoos appear under the skin and some on top.

Like when you finish Vvardenfell's main story line you get body and face markings with the achievement.
Body markings - below the vampire overlay giving it that *** faded look
Face markings - above the vampire overlay giving it a contrasting sharp look

MornaBaine

Pixel_Zealot wrote: »

It's definitely a bug, 'cause some tattoos appear under the skin and some on top.

Like when you finish Vvardenfell's main story line you get body and face markings with the achievement.
Body markings - below the vampire overlay giving it that *** faded look
Face markings - above the vampire overlay giving it a contrasting sharp look

Really? Wow I didn't realize that! But at least we know it means they very well CAN make ALL tattoos and make-up overlay the vamp skin. I mean, we were all pretty sure they could anyway but at least this is conclusive proof. Can you provide a screenshot?

notimetocare

Its a short-cut thats likely for performance from way back at the start. Fading the whole skin is easier than applying two at the same time. You think armor has meshing issues... lol

Jake1576

I whent and used the double bloody mara recipe when it first came out and it was bugged to even if you wasn't a vampire it gave you the vampire debuff for vampirism and made your skin change to pale well they removed the debuff from my character but told me there was nothing they could do for the skin being bugged now cause of this my character will always look pale and even tho I ain't a vampire can't see the tattoos on him very well or at all it's bs really

ZOS_Mika

We have had to remove a couple of posts that focused on a real world religious figure. Even if a comment might seem innocuous to you, we state in our community rules that we do not allow references to real world religion. Please stick to the topic of the thread.

Rusty_Blade

It would be cool if becoming a vamp didn't mean becoming ugly and losing all tattoos

Becoming a WW doesn't make you ugly / lose tattoos.

Maybe it should be optional. People should be able to choose to be ugly and to lose their tattoos or not.

ThePrinceOfBargains

ZOS_MikaS wrote: »

We have had to remove a couple of posts that focused on a real world religious figure. Even if a comment might seem innocuous to you, we state in our community rules that we do not allow references to real world religion. Please stick to the topic of the thread.

Thank you for once again ignoring the issue at hand. This response is definitely not completely useless and we really needed it because we're children and need you to supervise us.