Break free costs stamina??

GeorgeBlack

Give Fighters Guild a stamina skill that casts Silence which bars magika usage for 4s
To remove Silence you'll need a new Key and at the Cost of 5k magika you can cast magika abilities again.
OHHH THE HORROR NOOOOOO
drop dead magika classes.

leepalmer95

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Give Fighters Guild a stamina skill that casts Silence which bars magika usage for 4s
To remove Silence you'll need a new Key and at the Cost of 5k magika you can cast magika abilities again.
OHHH THE HORROR NOOOOOO
drop dead magika classes.

You know silence only works on magicka skilsl right? Silence doesn't work against stamina skills so stamina builds have an advantage there.

Why are you so salty lately. Is it because procs are getting nerfed?

GeorgeBlack

leepalmer95 wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Give Fighters Guild a stamina skill that casts Silence which bars magika usage for 4s
To remove Silence you'll need a new Key and at the Cost of 5k magika you can cast magika abilities again.
OHHH THE HORROR NOOOOOO
drop dead magika classes.

You know silence only works on magicka skilsl right? Silence doesn't work against stamina skills so stamina builds have an advantage there.

Why are you so salty lately. Is it because procs are getting nerfed?

Salty? Go back to your cave troll. I am not using procs. Why are u afraid of having to use your magika pool to be able to fight longer? I waste mine on Break Free and increasing roll dodge costs.

leepalmer95

So your saying make magicka users user magicka in order to break free?

Meaning they can use stamina as an actual utility resource and not have to actually manage both stats at once unlike the majority of stamina builds?

I too also waste my stamina on break free and dodge roll costs, incase you don't know.

If a stamina builds runs out of magicka its nothing to important.
If a magicka builds runs out of stamina, that player is dead.


Do you actually have any magicka builds or are you a stamina only forum crusader?

idk

leepalmer95 wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Give Fighters Guild a stamina skill that casts Silence which bars magika usage for 4s
To remove Silence you'll need a new Key and at the Cost of 5k magika you can cast magika abilities again.
OHHH THE HORROR NOOOOOO
drop dead magika classes.

You know silence only works on magicka skilsl right? Silence doesn't work against stamina skills so stamina builds have an advantage there.

Yea, the idea make no sense. It is one of the things I like about stamina builds in PvP. That and I can roll dodge more to avoid damage.

Fur_like_snow

Could you imagine for a moment if the other morph of negate was a stamina silence!! *heart eyes*

schwarzman1

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So your saying make magicka users user magicka in order to break free?

Meaning they can use stamina as an actual utility resource and not have to actually manage both stats at once unlike the majority of stamina builds?

I too also waste my stamina on break free and dodge roll costs, incase you don't know.

If a stamina builds runs out of magicka its nothing to important.
If a magicka builds runs out of stamina, that player is dead.


Do you actually have any magicka builds or are you a stamina only forum crusader?

This
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idk

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So your saying make magicka users user magicka in order to break free?

Meaning they can use stamina as an actual utility resource and not have to actually manage both stats at once unlike the majority of stamina builds?

I too also waste my stamina on break free and dodge roll costs, incase you don't know.

If a stamina builds runs out of magicka its nothing to important.
If a magicka builds runs out of stamina, that player is dead.


Do you actually have any magicka builds or are you a stamina only forum crusader?

And this is really not thought through very well. Stamina gets a great cost reduction for dodge roll unless they choose to go HA, but that is a choice. Makes the comparison rather weak.

GeorgeBlack

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So your saying make magicka users user magicka in order to break free?

Meaning they can use stamina as an actual utility resource and not have to actually manage both stats at once unlike the majority of stamina builds?

I too also waste my stamina on break free and dodge roll costs, incase you don't know.

If a stamina builds runs out of magicka its nothing to important.
If a magicka builds runs out of stamina, that player is dead.


Do you actually have any magicka builds or are you a stamina only forum crusader?

Stamina Builds have increasing cost on roll dodge, their main defence. Do magika builds get increased cost while spamming D. Shields?
Stamina heals is OverTime. Which means that it doesn't help against consistent damage intake. Magika heals can keep you at full HP while spamnming.
If I waste my stamina on breaking free, blocking, rolldoding how on earth will I attack?
I am not a proc user and my view is evident on the matter in every related discussion

Stamina crusader? I learn about every class on the games I play but I only stick to the one class that made me buy the game, regardless of how OP or not good it is.

Let me tell you why I am blocking people like you, and the other person that just posted. You are the typical:

"I am completing everything related to the game therefore my opinion is correct on everything. I stick to the class which I am most effective at. I go full meta, min/maxing in order to get benefit/exploit every feature of the game and think that I am good. I don't care about fairness, reason, and balance. I min/max to win."

Do you think that your opinion is objective and you get what balance is because you have played every class?
Are you under the delusion that people can't put time in EVERY CLASS and be good at it once they meta + min/max?


I play the game and I make fair points. I don't favour any of the following
magsorc
magdk
magNB
magTem
magDen
stamsorc
stamNB
stamDen
StamTemp


Do I ask for buffs for StamDK? Yes. Is stamDK getting nerfed since the beginning of time? Yes
Do I ask for Stam WHip? No it would be OP
Do I ask for stamBlood? no it would be OP
Do I ask for StamTalons? no it would be OP
Do I ask for stam Fossilize? No it would be OP
I ask for the class to be improved a bit because it is in a bad place. What do people like you do? "It's fine as it is, L2P" in every discussion about any class. Why? The reasons are mentioned above. You can't critically think. You think meta or L2P. Everyone can do it. Not everyone can think fairly.
I made my topic again. Not gona reply anymore. Nothing more to say. Let the toxic vomit begin, or maybe a few reasonable people can polish the idea.


Magika classes have access to Every utility in the game except Break Free. That is all.
Vigor
Blocking
Roll dodging. They are all worse than D.Shields and Spam heal which magika offers


PS: Shuffle should be remove from the game. Am I still a stamina crusader?

Ye L2Think kid. Enjoy levelling up your forum skills.

idk

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So your saying make magicka users user magicka in order to break free?

Meaning they can use stamina as an actual utility resource and not have to actually manage both stats at once unlike the majority of stamina builds?

I too also waste my stamina on break free and dodge roll costs, incase you don't know.

If a stamina builds runs out of magicka its nothing to important.
If a magicka builds runs out of stamina, that player is dead.


Do you actually have any magicka builds or are you a stamina only forum crusader?

Stamina Builds have increasing cost on roll dodge, their main defence. Do magika builds get increased cost while spamming D. Shields?
Stamina heals is OverTime. Which means that it doesn't help against consistent damage intake. Magika heals can keep you at full HP while spamnming.
If I waste my stamina on breaking free, blocking, rolldoding how on earth will I attack?
I am not a proc user and my view is evident on the matter in every related discussion

Stamina crusader? I learn about every class on the games I play but I only stick to the one class that made me buy the game, regardless of how OP or not good it is.

Let me tell you why I am blocking people like you, and the other person that just posted. You are the typical:

"I am completing everything related to the game therefore my opinion is correct on everything. I stick to the class which I am most effective at. I go full meta, min/maxing in order to get benefit/exploit every feature of the game and think that I am good. I don't care about fairness, reason, and balance. I min/max to win."

Do you think that your opinion is objective and you get what balance is because you have played every class?
Are you under the delusion that people can't put time in EVERY CLASS and be good at it once they meta + min/max?


I play the game and I make fair points. I don't favour any of the following
magsorc
magdk
magNB
magTem
magDen
stamsorc
stamNB
stamDen
StamTemp


Do I ask for buffs for StamDK? Yes. Is stamDK getting nerfed since the beginning of time? Yes
Do I ask for Stam WHip? No it would be OP
Do I ask for stamBlood? no it would be OP
Do I ask for StamTalons? no it would be OP
Do I ask for stam Fossilize? No it would be OP
I ask for the class to be improved a bit because it is in a bad place. What do people like you do? "It's fine as it is, L2P" in every discussion about any class. Why? The reasons are mentioned above. You can't critically think. You think meta or L2P. Everyone can do it. Not everyone can think fairly.
I made my topic again. Not gona reply anymore. Nothing more to say. Let the toxic vomit begin, or maybe a few reasonable people can polish the idea.


Magika classes have access to Every utility in the game except Break Free. That is all.
Vigor
Blocking
Roll dodging. They are all worse than D.Shields and Spam heal which magika offers


PS: Shuffle should be remove from the game. Am I still a stamina crusader?

Ye L2Think kid. Enjoy levelling up your forum skills.

Stam has easy access to cost reduction for dodge roll to begin with. The cost reduction available to stam before CP is up to 28%.

I did not read the entire quoted post since it delved into much outside of the topic of the OP.

Second, and probably the most important part, shields are fairly small in PvP and already require a lot of resouces to maintain them. CP is available to reduce the cost of block, dodge roll and break free, but that is rather useless for magicka users since they have a very small poll of stamina.

Ye, L2Think kid. Make break free and dodge roll cost magicka for magicka users and they will bust your butt more than they seem to now. Really great to look at the big picture when considering ideas.

Magdalina

That'd be a pretty nice buff for magicka users. Sure, I'd gladly take it

Malmai

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So your saying make magicka users user magicka in order to break free?

Meaning they can use stamina as an actual utility resource and not have to actually manage both stats at once unlike the majority of stamina builds?

I too also waste my stamina on break free and dodge roll costs, incase you don't know.

If a stamina builds runs out of magicka its nothing to important.
If a magicka builds runs out of stamina, that player is dead.


Do you actually have any magicka builds or are you a stamina only forum crusader?

Dont agree, magicka have lot of utility like heal with magicka or use CC or use shields while stamina have to block break free heal and do damage with stamina...

Dubhliam

L2P.

I'll show you tons of players that wreck people with their stam DKs, and they will most likely mop the floor with you.

If you are not successful in PvP, that doesn't automatically mean your class is the underdog.

Everyone can agree magsorcs are in a good place, yet some people simply can't kill anyone with their magsorcs.

Olen_Mikko

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Give Fighters Guild a stamina skill that casts Silence which bars magika usage for 4s
To remove Silence you'll need a new Key and at the Cost of 5k magika you can cast magika abilities again.
OHHH THE HORROR NOOOOOO
drop dead magika classes.

You know it is more effective to force magicka builds break free that uses stamina than magicka.

Most magicka builds have merely 15k stamina and poor stam regen. So it'll be nothing but a boost for magbuilds survivability if they have to use magicka to break free.

Malmai

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Give Fighters Guild a stamina skill that casts Silence which bars magika usage for 4s
To remove Silence you'll need a new Key and at the Cost of 5k magika you can cast magika abilities again.
OHHH THE HORROR NOOOOOO
drop dead magika classes.

You know it is more effective to force magicka builds break free that uses stamina than magicka.

Most magicka builds have merely 15k stamina and poor stam regen. So it'll be nothing but a boost for magbuilds survivability if they have to use magicka to break free.

Ppl running 15-17k stam on mag and running amber + drink + tri glyphs and few points in CP will give you very nice regen just for CC i mean you have 15-17k of blocking or breaking + you have all utility and damage free on magicka bar how is that not op? Shield stack burst and heal while u wait stam to regen lol...

Dymence

*** thread of the month award goes to...

Beardimus

Hang on. Is this a STAMINA player moaning about CC breaking what?


WHUT?


you realize as a magika player we have zero need for stamina bar CC breaking. As a stamina player you can run zero magika.and it not be a problem...... Stamina have a clear advantage in this area

I Would LOVE some CC to use magika instead like dear / encase etc it would bring balance.

I then wouldn't need tri stat or tri pot and could open a bigger can of whup

Feanor

Break free with Magicka? Make it so!

Eirella

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So your saying make magicka users user magicka in order to break free?

Meaning they can use stamina as an actual utility resource and not have to actually manage both stats at once unlike the majority of stamina builds?

I too also waste my stamina on break free and dodge roll costs, incase you don't know.

If a stamina builds runs out of magicka its nothing to important.
If a magicka builds runs out of stamina, that player is dead.


Do you actually have any magicka builds or are you a stamina only forum crusader?

^
OP has probably never played a magicka build.

TheCaptainJosh

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Give Fighters Guild a stamina skill that casts Silence which bars magika usage for 4s
To remove Silence you'll need a new Key and at the Cost of 5k magika you can cast magika abilities again.
OHHH THE HORROR NOOOOOO
drop dead magika classes.

You know silence only works on magicka skilsl right? Silence doesn't work against stamina skills so stamina builds have an advantage there.

Why are you so salty lately. Is it because procs are getting nerfed?

Salty? Go back to your cave troll. I am not using procs. Why are u afraid of having to use your magika pool to be able to fight longer? I waste mine on Break Free and increasing roll dodge costs.

... invest in immovable pots

Tan9oSuccka

Just a side note: the OP also thinks 1h and shield is Overpowered.

SnubbS

I want to chastise OP—but he's one of like the 5 people I've seen here who actually understand how badly StamDK is under-performing. It's the worst Stamclass by a mile—a literal mile.

O_LYKOS

I brought some fries to go with all the salt on this thread. jesus!

sevomd69

I think OP meant to say was that for Stam characters to use Mag to Break Free, Dodge roll, etc.... b/c if my Mag toons could use Mag to break free than it would be game over...

ParaNostram

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So your saying make magicka users user magicka in order to break free?

Meaning they can use stamina as an actual utility resource and not have to actually manage both stats at once unlike the majority of stamina builds?

I too also waste my stamina on break free and dodge roll costs, incase you don't know.

If a stamina builds runs out of magicka its nothing to important.
If a magicka builds runs out of stamina, that player is dead.


Do you actually have any magicka builds or are you a stamina only forum crusader?

This. Right here. Too much truth has been spoken.

Solariken

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

Could you imagine for a moment if the other morph of negate was a stamina silence!! *heart eyes*

It would be pretty neat if they added a "disarm" mechanic to the game. It would lock players out of all weapon skills and light/heavy attacks (stamina and magicka) while still able to use non-weapon skills. Sounds fun to me anyway.

idk

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Give Fighters Guild a stamina skill that casts Silence which bars magika usage for 4s
To remove Silence you'll need a new Key and at the Cost of 5k magika you can cast magika abilities again.
OHHH THE HORROR NOOOOOO
drop dead magika classes.

You know it is more effective to force magicka builds break free that uses stamina than magicka.

Most magicka builds have merely 15k stamina and poor stam regen. So it'll be nothing but a boost for magbuilds survivability if they have to use magicka to break free.

One would have to understand basic game mechanics to grasp that. As that is maybe 15k. Many have less.

SnubbS wrote: »

I want to chastise OP—but he's one of like the 5 people I've seen here who actually understand how badly StamDK is under-performing. It's the worst Stamclass by a mile—a literal mile.

@SnubbS If you are talking PvP, I do not know how stamDKs perform. For PvE your statement is not accurate by a mile.

Oakmontowls_ESO

I'd love to be able to use magika to break free/dodge roll. Since zos gutted my siphoning attacks I have to be a little bit more careful in solo pve content since I have no way besides base regen to regain stamina now.

PsychoROFLit

Solariken wrote: »

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

Could you imagine for a moment if the other morph of negate was a stamina silence!! *heart eyes*

It would be pretty neat if they added a "disarm" mechanic to the game. It would lock players out of all weapon skills and light/heavy attacks (stamina and magicka) while still able to use non-weapon skills. Sounds fun to me anyway.

stupid "skill"

ParaNostram

strikeback1247

salty troll thread detected

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