Charged weapon trait and Twin Blade and Blunt bleed?

Samsquanch

Is the bleed from Twin Blade and Blunt application increased by Charged weapon traits?

Samsquanch

What I mean is, is the chance to proc increased by the charged weapon trait?

Qbiken

Masel92 wrote: »

Charged works as follows:

Chance to apply status effect=Base Chance*(1+Sum of % Increases)

Base chance is

1% for ground aoes
3% for single target dots
5% for direct aoe (not really sure about this one)
10% for direct single target damage
20% for enchantments

So for example a shock enchant on a charged destro staff will lead to: 20%*(1+100%+220%)=20%*420%=84%

The bleed from the axe does not count as a status effect, which is why charged is a bad trait on stamina based builds.

Status effects are:

Poisoned, 6 second dot with HotR
Burning (Fire), 4 second dot with HotR
Concussion (Lightning), 4 seconds 8% more damage taken for the target and small initial damage
Chilled (Ice), 4 second snare and small initial damage
Diseased (no idea how this one is called ingame), afflicts major defile

Samsquanch

Damn, that really blows. I was pretty stoked when I read that Alcast had classified Bleed as a status effect!

Samsquanch

Any idea where Masel92 got his info that Bleed is not a status effect?

Everything else I've read claims that Bleed is in fact a classified as a status effect.

Masel

Samsquanch wrote: »

Any idea where Masel92 got his info that Bleed is not a status effect?

Everything else I've read claims that Bleed is in fact a classified as a status effect.

It's based on testing that I've done on a lambent centurion and dual axes with charged and without. As far as I can tell it is not classified as a status effect. But I will get on the pts and test it later today.

Samsquanch

Thanks man! I appreciate your help. With the reduction to Poison status effect duration, I feel like Charged axes and and a bleed/poison stam build could really be great, if Charged increases Twin Blade and Blunt proc chance that is.

Masel

I just did a few tests and even if it did increase the proc chance (which it doesn't do based on it) it would snyergise badly with the bleed. The reason for that is that the bleed constantly refreshes itself all the time. That is very very annoying and the reason why dual axes are too much in PvE. You keep refreshing a dot that ticks for the first time after two seconds. Of you refresh it constantly within the first two seconds, you will not deal any damage with it at all.

Gan Xing

So in the next patch, would you run with nirnhoned or sharpened axes?

paulsimonps

Gan Xing wrote: »

So in the next patch, would you run with nirnhoned or sharpened axes?

From the testing I have done on PTS for Stamina I would still use at least 1 Infused, and I would go either 1 Sharpened or 1 Precise.

Samsquanch

So Masel92,

Having a lower chance to proc that bleed might actually increase its effectiveness? Say, only using one axe instead of two and keeping the chance lower (8%), could actually cause you to get more of the bleed effect out?

Paulsimon,

I have read elsewhere that one infused weapon applies to your offhand weapon as well as your main hand on your back bar. Is this true? I know it probably isn't intended, but have you tested these claims?

Thanks in advance.

Masel

Samsquanch wrote: »

So Masel92,

Having a lower chance to proc that bleed might actually increase its effectiveness? Say, only using one axe instead of two and keeping the chance lower (8%), could actually cause you to get more of the bleed effect out?

Paulsimon,

I have read elsewhere that one infused weapon applies to your offhand weapon as well as your main hand on your back bar. Is this true? I know it probably isn't intended, but have you tested these claims?

Thanks in advance.

Yes that is what I'm saying. The dot ticks every two seconds, which is too few in the first place. Same holds for the poison status effect. You often refresh it before it deals any damage, very bad design there... For as long as you are on your back bar, the dot will keep ticking which is why I do more damage with it with DW/Bow than with DW/2H.