Healers and AP

Zaindari

I just does not seem like healers get enough AP for supporting a group. I have honestly never really PvPed until this last week, but I got in a good pvp guild and have found myself enjoying it. My main is a healer and I really dont see myself getting an alt to CP anytime soon. Anyway is it just me or do healers just not get very much AP while in battle because we rarely get a kill, I mean sure we get the AP for capture but I feel like im missing out on the AP from kills. Healers really being a vital role I think should get more for what they do. Maybe an AP bonus for amount healed.?

paulsimonps

Um really? Healing is a great way to get AP, follow the zerg and boom instant AP. If you heal someone that killed an enemy and got damaged in the process then you get AP for healing them. So as long as you keep your team alive and help them kill people then you are solid, and if you hit the enemy too at least once or if you are in an actual group with the person you healed then you get credit for the kill too in terms of AP and bounty quests.

Zaindari

paulsimonps wrote: »

Um really? Healing is a great way to get AP, follow the zerg and boom instant AP. If you heal someone that killed an enemy and got damaged in the process then you get AP for healing them. So as long as you keep your team alive and help them kill people then you are solid, and if you hit the enemy too at least once or if you are in an actual group with the person you healed then you get credit for the kill too in terms of AP and bounty quests.

Ok that clears things up for me, I havent noticed the AP for healing, all I noticed was like 1.3k AP for a kill I got the other day.

Jawasa

@Zaindari you do know that if your in a group every1 shade the ap if They are in range? So if Any1 in your group gets a kill you shade the ap.

scipionumatia

pvp healing is pretty simple, throw on transmutation, seducer, and 1 piece monsterhelm of your choice full impen. keep your AoE heals down, keep shields up best you can, stay in the back of the zerg and ride the zerg wave.

side note, if your a PVE'er and happen to have SPC we love that too

a1i3nz

PvP healers aka kill cawkblocks

Follow around a zerg wearing transmutation, hit 3 buttons, get more AP than everyone else.

DeHei

For example Templar can make much AP with healing and holding some dots on the enemy

Morgul667

Healing a group is great way to get AP

Also heal those guys who fall of the fort platform after a fight :-) You'll get a nice share of AP

SugaComa

scipionumatia wrote: »

pvp healing is pretty simple, throw on transmutation, seducer, and 1 piece monsterhelm of your choice full impen. keep your AoE heals down, keep shields up best you can, stay in the back of the zerg and ride the zerg wave.

side note, if your a PVE'er and happen to have SPC we love that too

SPC ?

Morgul667

SugaComa wrote: »

scipionumatia wrote: »

pvp healing is pretty simple, throw on transmutation, seducer, and 1 piece monsterhelm of your choice full impen. keep your AoE heals down, keep shields up best you can, stay in the back of the zerg and ride the zerg wave.

side note, if your a PVE'er and happen to have SPC we love that too

SPC ?

Spell Power Cure set that drops in white gold tower (I think) . Boost peoples DPS when you overheal

Kas

everyone inside a group gets the same amount of ap (healers get ap for kills they didn't do any damage for and others get their share of "heal ap")

running around with your random zerg is *** anyway. f you want ap there, it's best to spam a hot like rapid and otherwise play as a regular dd. the reason is that heal ap are actually fairly big but limited by the amount you get from a single friendly player. thus tagging all allies "a bit" is much better than really keeping people alive. if you can get 95% of all heal AP possible by spamming rapic, why use "real" heals at all?

but again: *** random zergs, it doesn't make you a decent player nor is it particularly rewarding ap-wise. better go fight somewhere truly solo (can be hard) or just go with 1-3 friends, take some resources, etc.

CatchMeTrolling

Go around solo healing is a *** way to get ap, you're better off in a small group that know what they're doing.

You'll never come close to the amount of ap that top ap farmers get just healing zergs lol this isn't 1.6

DaveMoeDee

People who aren't even healers will sometimes run a resto and spam mutagen in crowds for easy AP.

Heck, I might do that in a few minutes with my tank.

CatchMeTrolling

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

People who aren't even healers will sometimes run a resto and spam mutagen in crowds for easy AP.

Heck, I might do that in a few minutes with my tank.

Easy ap doesn't necessarily equate to good ap.

paulsimonps

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Go around solo healing is a *** way to get ap, you're better off in a small group that know what they're doing.

You'll never come close to the amount of ap that top ap farmers get just healing zergs lol this isn't 1.6

Not sure what you are talking about, I pop a vigor after someone killed someone and I can get anywhere from 200-1000 AP form just 1 heal. The more they have killed and been hurt while killing the more AP I get. In large fights that you see a ton of during this event healing is an amazing way to get AP.

CatchMeTrolling

paulsimonps wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Go around solo healing is a *** way to get ap, you're better off in a small group that know what they're doing.

You'll never come close to the amount of ap that top ap farmers get just healing zergs lol this isn't 1.6

Not sure what you are talking about, I pop a vigor after someone killed someone and I can get anywhere from 200-1000 AP form just 1 heal. The more they have killed and been hurt while killing the more AP I get. In large fights that you see a ton of during this event healing is an amazing way to get AP.

It'll never be consistent & you can't just spam heals to get rewarded like before.

Your perspective of amazing way to get ap is definitely different from mine, I've farmed millions of ap, got number one or emperor countless times and I'm telling you that is a *** way in comparison to top ap getters.

You're better off healing a ball group if you go that route. It's an easy way NOT a great way, big difference.

BejaProphet

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Go around solo healing is a *** way to get ap, you're better off in a small group that know what they're doing.

You'll never come close to the amount of ap that top ap farmers get just healing zergs lol this isn't 1.6

As a solo healer in PVP, I have found mutagen spamming a pretty good source of AP. I currently do not run it anymore, because I want to have fun, and enjoy my build, and be effective more than Ap farm, but its a good way to get a lot of AP outside of major player connections.

I have no doubt you know exactly what you are talking about when you say there are far superior ways which the top farmers utilize. The only problem is, I imagine your process goes something like this...

Step 1: Habitually run with a small to medium pack of hardcore generals, warlords, and legates who are spec'ed to the teeth and could rip a zerg to shreds.

Step 2: ..... sorry, you lost us casuals at step 1. Seems those groups don't have a lot of openings. Suddenly, if you need some quick ap, mutagen is sounding decent.

CatchMeTrolling

BejaProphet wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Go around solo healing is a *** way to get ap, you're better off in a small group that know what they're doing.

You'll never come close to the amount of ap that top ap farmers get just healing zergs lol this isn't 1.6

As a solo healer in PVP, I have found mutagen spamming a pretty good source of AP. I currently do not run it anymore, because I want to have fun, and enjoy my build, and be effective more than Ap farm, but its a good way to get a lot of AP outside of major player connections.

I have no doubt you know exactly what you are talking about when you say there are far superior ways which the top farmers utilize. The only problem is, I imagine your process goes something like this...

Step 1: Habitually run with a small to medium pack of hardcore generals, warlords, and legates who are spec'ed to the teeth and could rip a zerg to shreds.

Step 2: ..... sorry, you lost us casuals at step 1. Seems those groups don't have a lot of openings. Suddenly, if you need some quick ap, mutagen is sounding decent.

Actually when I'm out to get ap usually I'm by myself, I join a small group if I don't feel like dealing with big groups by myself aka playing horse simulator all day, especially on a class with no mobility.

And I also don't care what rank someone is, means very little to me at this point.

Let's just say what's good is subjective here, obviously I know how easy & available healing is but I'll never consider pure healing a good source unless you're in a ball group or small farming group. It's decent at best if you simply have no other means to get ap.

paulsimonps

BejaProphet wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Go around solo healing is a *** way to get ap, you're better off in a small group that know what they're doing.

You'll never come close to the amount of ap that top ap farmers get just healing zergs lol this isn't 1.6

As a solo healer in PVP, I have found mutagen spamming a pretty good source of AP. I currently do not run it anymore, because I want to have fun, and enjoy my build, and be effective more than Ap farm, but its a good way to get a lot of AP outside of major player connections.

I have no doubt you know exactly what you are talking about when you say there are far superior ways which the top farmers utilize. The only problem is, I imagine your process goes something like this...

Step 1: Habitually run with a small to medium pack of hardcore generals, warlords, and legates who are spec'ed to the teeth and could rip a zerg to shreds.

Step 2: ..... sorry, you lost us casuals at step 1. Seems those groups don't have a lot of openings. Suddenly, if you need some quick ap, mutagen is sounding decent.

Pretty much it, not everyone has access to a well formed small scale or large scale group.

Darlgon

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

People who aren't even healers will sometimes run a resto and spam mutagen in crowds for easy AP.

Heck, I might do that in a few minutes with my tank.

Easy ap doesn't necessarily equate to good ap.

There is no good AP, there is no bad AP.. there is only AP.

CatchMeTrolling

Darlgon wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

People who aren't even healers will sometimes run a resto and spam mutagen in crowds for easy AP.

Heck, I might do that in a few minutes with my tank.

Easy ap doesn't necessarily equate to good ap.

There is no good AP, there is no bad AP.. there is only AP.

Yeah say that when you're trying to get emp in a populated campaign or trying to farm for something.

1. You'll never get it getting bad ap versus someone else getting millions regularly.
2. You'll take forever to get said item or gear, especially when it's rng based.

So yeah the same way there's bad xp there's also bad ap, the amount you can get per hour is usually an indication of how good something is, the rule still applies to ap.

The only way there's no good or bad ap is if you don't care to get it at all, that's another topic though.