Will Craglorn ever be Soloable?

LadyNalcarya

S1ipperyJim wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Craglorn is soloable,

you just need to stop doing baby DPS, and be AVERAGE just like everyone else doing 20k or higher DPS.
The good players aka the ones that do trials, they do over 35k DPS, craglorn is a cakewalk to trial players.

You do baby DPS, dont expect to do good in Craglorn. Its for people that got to CP160 and by that time you should be doing 20k or higher DPS.

There are certain quest mechanics in Craglorn that require a group, so no it's not soloable

They were removed in One Tamriel update.

Linaleah

AlnilamE wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

there are 2 quest chains that require group. and when I say require group, I mean REALLY require group. becasue early on, you have to kill world bosses. there are some bosses that can be soloed. in my experience, not craglorn bosses though.

why am I so interested in that quest chain? becasue craglorn tapestry. you have to do ALL the quest chains in order to buy it. not just the solo main story. the problem is, finding groups for those group steps? is close to impossible nowadays

The only part of the Craglorn quest line that would be hard to solo is the last boss in the Shattered and the Lost, because she summons a ton of ads. (That is my favourite part of the Craglorn quest series).

Other than that, some strategy and some DPS should get you through it. Worst case scenario, bring a friend.

I'm not talking about the story that ends with nirhorned piece. I'm talking about the two GROUP quest chains. that are needed for full completion. there is a total of 6 quest chains you can start in Craglorn. (well.. parts anyways, that have associated achievements) 2 of them are group only. and i figure, pfftt.. I'll just solo them, no biggie right? until the point where I'm sent to kill world bosses to charge crystals. yeah, that aint happening. I can make my way through group delves, more or less. i cannot solo world bosses. I've been sitting on those two chains for a while now, because nowadays, people either farm dailies, spam catacombs or just farm.

OK, that part of the Shattered and the Lost quest line requires you to go to an anomaly and talk to the mage that spawns there once it's defeated.

People do anomalies in Craglorn ALL DAY LONG. Just keep an eye on zone chat. Someone will say "Fulminant anomaly is up" or something like that. Just go to that one, help out and then talk to the mage. Do this twice (sorry, three times) and you are good to go!

Also, are you on PC NA, by any chance? If you are, I can probably help depending on what times you play.

I am on PC NA. and my play time is.. all over the place (basically imagine being able to hop in at most times of the day, but not being able to stick around for large chunks of time without going afk fairly regularly and/or logging out soon after), which is part of the problem. unless I specifically schedule something in advance and deliberately set aside the time for it, chances are - its not happening.

and no, I cannot do VMA. I would say, most people can't. kinda like VMoL

I sent you a friend request. If we don't overlap in play time, I can put you in touch with my guildies that are around more during the day. But we'll figure it out.

I've also never done vMA. Tried it a couple of times and then went to do something more fun. Normal MA is a good test for a well rounded build, though.

thanks. I do pretty decently in normal MA. granted, I've yet to finish it, becasue I find it tedious, but the parts i did do were easy enough. that said... i managed to do the group quests Benny Hill style - run like hell in circles, make sure pets are resurrected, spam matriarch heal and whenever attention is on clanfear - hit all the damage abilities, rinse, repeat. that will NOT work on my nighblade

anomalies I managed to duo in a similar fashion in a combination of getting lucky and running into someone else doing them/guildie being in Craglorn at the same time. that said... all the group areas? my strat will get me killed as I'll be running into more trash

P.S. majority is NOT soloing skyreach.. majority is BUYING CARRIES for Skyreach from the few that can solo it. or grouping up for upper part

Vrienda

Sadly aside from the main questline and the delves involved in it, not much of Craglorn can be solo'd by your typical player. Which is a shame because I want to know what happens.

It's the only zone I haven't been able to 100% clear.

LadyNalcarya

@Linaleah wrote: »

P.S. majority is NOT soloing skyreach.. majority is BUYING CARRIES for Skyreach from the few that can solo it. or grouping up for upper part

People are buying/asking for Skyreach carry because they're leveling alts, not because they cant solo quests. That doesnt even include bosses or lower levels on catacombs, basically they just stack all zombies/necromancers/ghosts from the upper level and aoe them for exp. This is kinda boring, but it allows you to get a fresh lvl 50 char in one evening.
As for grouping, thats an intended way to clear this zone. Again, soloable =/= *** easy. Many of veteran dungeons are also soloable, but it doesnt mean you can do that by light attacking everything.

Linaleah

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

@Linaleah wrote: »

P.S. majority is NOT soloing skyreach.. majority is BUYING CARRIES for Skyreach from the few that can solo it. or grouping up for upper part

People are buying/asking for Skyreach carry because they're leveling alts, not because they cant solo quests. That doesnt even include bosses or lower levels on catacombs, basically they just stack all zombies/necromancers/ghosts from the upper level and aoe them for exp. This is kinda boring, but it allows you to get a fresh lvl 50 char in one evening.
As for grouping, thats an intended way to clear this zone. Again, soloable =/= *** easy. Many of veteran dungeons are also soloable, but it doesnt mean you can do that by light attacking everything.

well.. I'm certainly not light attacking everything. sometimes i even heavy attack :P in all seriousness, I'm using a slightly modified (for my personal preferences and playstyle) unholy heardsman build on a sorc, but... sorc, especially pet based sorc is quite possibly the easiest character to play that I have. she can still be squishy, but she also has multiple baseline healing abilities (and twilight matriarch heal is HIGHLY underrated) my other characters? stand no chance in hell well.. maybe my magika templar, once she gets to 50.

and I mean... upper trash even I can solo. not rounding up everything - one pull at a time, but I can solo it (with food buff). Anomalies? HOW?

LadyNalcarya

Linaleah wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

@Linaleah wrote: »

P.S. majority is NOT soloing skyreach.. majority is BUYING CARRIES for Skyreach from the few that can solo it. or grouping up for upper part

People are buying/asking for Skyreach carry because they're leveling alts, not because they cant solo quests. That doesnt even include bosses or lower levels on catacombs, basically they just stack all zombies/necromancers/ghosts from the upper level and aoe them for exp. This is kinda boring, but it allows you to get a fresh lvl 50 char in one evening.
As for grouping, thats an intended way to clear this zone. Again, soloable =/= *** easy. Many of veteran dungeons are also soloable, but it doesnt mean you can do that by light attacking everything.

well.. I'm certainly not light attacking everything. sometimes i even heavy attack :P in all seriousness, I'm using a slightly modified (for my personal preferences and playstyle) unholy heardsman build on a sorc, but... sorc, especially pet based sorc is quite possibly the easiest character to play that I have. she can still be squishy, but she also has multiple baseline healing abilities (and twilight matriarch heal is HIGHLY underrated) my other characters? stand no chance in hell well.. maybe my magika templar, once she gets to 50.

and I mean... upper trash even I can solo. not rounding up everything - one pull at a time, but I can solo it (with food buff). Anomalies? HOW?

Hmm. I just did a few Crag quests with a sorc and that was easier than with my templar healer.
What kind of skill setup are you using? I was using my trial setup, with 5 pieces of netch touch set and 3 pc moondancer, but Im not even sure if moondancer bonus works on world bosses (probably it doesnt lol). I guess Willpower+Julianos+some kind of proc set (skoria, ilambris, grothdarr) would work, too. Or Necropotence instead of Julianos, since you have pets.
Also I used the rotation from this guide (except that I replaced destro reach with surge for more survivability and used shield every now and then).
Thats a pretty generic setup, but it does the job. Works for Vvardenfell world bosses, too (however theyre significantly stronger than Craglorn ones, imo, and might be too hard if youre not cp capped). Proof of soloing one, just in case:

Also, heavy attack sorc builds are perfect for soloing, since you always have magicka to shield. Might be easier to play than force pulse based build, especially after the morrowind patch. And you dont really have to focus on weaving(which can be distracting if youre not used to it) if you just want to solo some bosses and not going for super high dps.

Maybe that helps? Unfortunately, I cannot help you with the quests since Im on a different server.

Diminish

Do you realize this is an MMO? You want solo content, choose any other Elder Scrolls game...

Linaleah

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

@Linaleah wrote: »

P.S. majority is NOT soloing skyreach.. majority is BUYING CARRIES for Skyreach from the few that can solo it. or grouping up for upper part

People are buying/asking for Skyreach carry because they're leveling alts, not because they cant solo quests. That doesnt even include bosses or lower levels on catacombs, basically they just stack all zombies/necromancers/ghosts from the upper level and aoe them for exp. This is kinda boring, but it allows you to get a fresh lvl 50 char in one evening.
As for grouping, thats an intended way to clear this zone. Again, soloable =/= *** easy. Many of veteran dungeons are also soloable, but it doesnt mean you can do that by light attacking everything.

well.. I'm certainly not light attacking everything. sometimes i even heavy attack :P in all seriousness, I'm using a slightly modified (for my personal preferences and playstyle) unholy heardsman build on a sorc, but... sorc, especially pet based sorc is quite possibly the easiest character to play that I have. she can still be squishy, but she also has multiple baseline healing abilities (and twilight matriarch heal is HIGHLY underrated) my other characters? stand no chance in hell well.. maybe my magika templar, once she gets to 50.

and I mean... upper trash even I can solo. not rounding up everything - one pull at a time, but I can solo it (with food buff). Anomalies? HOW?

Hmm. I just did a few Crag quests with a sorc and that was easier than with my templar healer.
What kind of skill setup are you using? I was using my trial setup, with 5 pieces of netch touch set and 3 pc moondancer, but Im not even sure if moondancer bonus works on world bosses (probably it doesnt lol). I guess Willpower+Julianos+some kind of proc set (skoria, ilambris, grothdarr) would work, too. Or Necropotence instead of Julianos, since you have pets.
Also I used the rotation from this guide (except that I replaced destro reach with surge for more survivability and used shield every now and then).
Thats a pretty generic setup, but it does the job. Works for Vvardenfell world bosses, too (however theyre significantly stronger than Craglorn ones, imo, and might be too hard if youre not cp capped). Proof of soloing one, just in case:

Also, heavy attack sorc builds are perfect for soloing, since you always have magicka to shield. Might be easier to play than force pulse based build, especially after the morrowind patch. And you dont really have to focus on weaving(which can be distracting if youre not used to it) if you just want to solo some bosses and not going for super high dps.

Maybe that helps? Unfortunately, I cannot help you with the quests since Im on a different server.

oh its definitely easier on a sorc by FAR, though my build solo is pretty different from the one you linked. I have no monster sets as I only really do pledges when guildies are available to do them with (and then, i tend to do them on story - the exactly 4 times I tried on vet had mixed results, part of the reason I'm deathly afraid to pug). rng was NOT kind so I'm using 5 pc necropotence and 5 piece seducer (used to be Julianos, but I've been having too many sustain issues, especially when healing, so I sent Julianos to my DK, and crafted seducer for the sorc) with a non set staffs - lightning. gold staff, the rest purple. managed to get most things in divines except for jewelry - which is health based (arcane pieces were out of my affordable range at the time), staffs are both sharpened with weapon damage enchant. magika + health blue food. for the same reason as above - I don't yet have undaunted mettle (delve dailies take a WHILE to level though and I haven't been consistent with them either), I'm running 5 light/2 heavy. for the solo content that requires more effort, I tend to run with both twilight matriarch AND clanfear (who tanks for me)

my rotation is not so much a rotation as priority. so aside from having pets at both bars, my front bar has crystal blast, unstable wall of elements and daedric prey, back bar has liquid lightning, boundless storm and dark conversion. I use destro ultimate on front bar, mage guild ultimate on back bar. priority is basically.. keep things up. keep my shield up, keep the wall down on the ground, keep prey debuff on the boss, keep both pets up with twilight's heal, keep my magika up by occasional use of dark conversion. it allows me to do just enough kiting to avoid a fair chunk of the damage and stay healed up as well as keep my pets healed up (or whatever people might be around with me). my set up for actualy being grouped for pledges, trials etc is a bit different, but this is what I tend to run solo. though if i'm running less challenging content - matriarch and back bar ultimate gets replaced with whatever skills I'm still leveling. my cp is at this moment 492)

90% of the time - this works. except when it doesn't. which it tends not to - on world bosses like anomalies, or areas where trash is so tightly packed, I get overwhelmed because I accidentally pulled more then one group, or didn't dodge quickly enough.

my main though is stamblade. main as in character I actualy try to get achievements on. and no matter what try with her build within what I find reasonable.. I just can't manage to survive long enough. unlike my sorc who gets a pet to take the heat off, all the heat is on my stamblade

I play with other people when I can. its just for these quest chains, getting people to play with - has been a crapshoot. I caved and did them on a sorc. finding people to run anomalies with was... interesting. soloing mage was... ouch ouch ouch, died half a dozen time before I got her. same for the amulet quest. but hey.. at least I got them. slow and painful as it was. I still wish this was actualy possible on my actual main character

Balthyzar

They made it easy to solo quite some time ago so I'm not sure what you mean by all this. I have been able to solo the entire quest line as well as every side quest and daily on several toons, including my healer... maybe l2p?

Beardimus

Craglorn is easy now, it is Soloable, and too easy in my opinion.

You can't run a 'healer' build and moan that you can't kill content..comeon. If they changed it for you it would be a cakewalk for DPS.

You just need to switch a staff, and a few skills, maybe 1 armour set and you will clear it all no problem..

I'd prefer it harder.

MLGProPlayer

Linaleah wrote: »

P.S. majority is NOT soloing skyreach.. majority is BUYING CARRIES for Skyreach from the few that can solo it. or grouping up for upper part

Those are new characters paying for someone to grind for them. Basically, the high level aggros every enemy in the dungeon, then nukes them. That's how easy Skyreach is.

blacksghost

Craglorn goes from sublime to ridiculous..... As for group content areas? where the feck are all these folk who willingly will group? Belkarth is crowded and the rest of the landscape is devoid of any one who might help those of us who are not superwonderfulexpertbiselitegutguddudes

blabliblargh

As others said, most (group content) Craglorn is soloable with a proper build with self sustain and (ideally) dps, which I did with my dps magsorc between CP150 and 300 and it could be really challenging especially with low CP. Now CP 340, I still struggle to solo complete a couple of quests, Shada's Tear in particular. Also I do not think I am able to solo anomalies, the Anka-Ra (priests), and nirncrux mines yet (did not try since a while).

Olen_Mikko

Most of Craglorn is easily soloable. Group content is the exception.

DoctorESO

Linaleah wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

there are 2 quest chains that require group. and when I say require group, I mean REALLY require group. becasue early on, you have to kill world bosses. there are some bosses that can be soloed. in my experience, not craglorn bosses though.

why am I so interested in that quest chain? becasue craglorn tapestry. you have to do ALL the quest chains in order to buy it. not just the solo main story. the problem is, finding groups for those group steps? is close to impossible nowadays

The only part of the Craglorn quest line that would be hard to solo is the last boss in the Shattered and the Lost, because she summons a ton of ads. (That is my favourite part of the Craglorn quest series).

Other than that, some strategy and some DPS should get you through it. Worst case scenario, bring a friend.

I'm not talking about the story that ends with nirhorned piece. I'm talking about the two GROUP quest chains. that are needed for full completion. there is a total of 6 quest chains you can start in Craglorn. (well.. parts anyways, that have associated achievements) 2 of them are group only. and i figure, pfftt.. I'll just solo them, no biggie right? until the point where I'm sent to kill world bosses to charge crystals. yeah, that aint happening. I can make my way through group delves, more or less. i cannot solo world bosses. I've been sitting on those two chains for a while now, because nowadays, people either farm dailies, spam catacombs or just farm.

This may sound silly, but it works. Offer 1k for someone to help you kill a world boss. If no one responds quickly, up it by another 1k. You will get someone soon and only have to pay 1-3k.

Buffler

Whats with all the necro threads

seaef

nvm. Accidental necro.

Mettaricana

Im no healer but i solo skyreach and spellscar nd all the delves its not terrible if your not focusing on being a support class

cabbageub17_ESO

They should ad the dungeon like content to the group finder.

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