My Midyear Mayhem PVP scrub experience, brought to you by the letter S...for salty!

Soriana

I am not a PVP'er and have never claimed to be; I have no PVP sets, have no clue what to do while PVP'ing, and honestly the only time I ever do PVP are in special events like this or to telvar farm with my guild. While running with my guild tonight doing a little AP farming in IC we notice a couple of gankers following us. I am assuming they saw a big group, probably 12 of us or so, and figured it would be easy pickin's to cut off a few stragglers. My main is a tank so I was running in my old PVE tank gear (I'm looking at you Footman's and Hist Bark!) and decided to be the last one through the doors to help protect the group.

A couple of times they try, in vain, to pick me off but it doesn't work; I am able to keep alive until a couple of my group can come back through and help out. Towards the end of the run we were trying to head down a sewer entrance to head back to base. I was bringing up the rear as usual and all of a sudden 4 AD and 2 DC (the same 2 DC gankers) pop out of nowhere and start hammering away at me. These are all CP630 players, assuming they are set with at least some PVP gear, and none of them could take me down. Rest of my group popped back up the ladder and proceeded to mow through them.

Let me reiterate; I was in PVE gear and 6 players could not kill me. What they could do though was whisper me and tell me what a PVP noob zergling I was! I whispered back agreeing completely with them and applauded them for their ability to see I was not a PVP star. Insert more salty comments from them directed at my crappy PVP playstyle...insert more agreement from me that I know nothing of PVP. The last whisper I got told me I should be ashamed 'to be proud of my zergling self.'

The last whisper I sent was "I am neither proud or ashamed of my zergling ways...but killing you was sure a lot of fun!"

I don't think I knew how seriously players in this game took their PVP until this event. Wow...just wow! Anyways, thought I'd share my experience and ask if anyone had anything similar happen to them?

Rohamad_Ali

You fought , won & recieved salt . You are now a PvP'er .

Soriana

@Rohamad_Ali Well poop...guess I gotta go farm some salt so I can start handing it out too! LOL

Rohamad_Ali

Soriana wrote: »

@Rohamad_Ali Well poop...guess I gotta go farm some salt so I can start handing it out too! LOL

LadyNalcarya

Yeah, I also got some hate whispers and mails.
It was hilarious to be honest, I'm not even good at pvp and was mostly doing random things. But apparently, Im a macro user and cheater.

geonsocal

ganking sure ain't what it used to be

CMFan1966

@Soriana please allow me to worship at your feet. You got in there, admitted that PVP wasn't your thing and took down a bunch of punks who think a whole lot of themselves! Good for you!!! And you have excellent taste in avatars.

My toon happens to be AD and Thursday night I got completely flattened by a very large group of EP fighters. I died splendidly!

Rohamad_Ali

I really enjoy hearing PVE players having fun in PVP . No one should be underestimating a PVE player . There are trial guilds that could wipe the map if they were so inclined . Some have more working knowledge of game mechanics then those that only PVP . Good for all of you winning battles during the event .

Sigma957

You will find most people run pve gear in Cyrodiil with maybe the impen trait to reduce crit damage but thats about it Always fun though to kill the opposition.

LadyDestiny

Soriana wrote: »

I am not a PVP'er and have never claimed to be; I have no PVP sets, have no clue what to do while PVP'ing, and honestly the only time I ever do PVP are in special events like this or to telvar farm with my guild. While running with my guild tonight doing a little AP farming in IC we notice a couple of gankers following us. I am assuming they saw a big group, probably 12 of us or so, and figured it would be easy pickin's to cut off a few stragglers. My main is a tank so I was running in my old PVE tank gear (I'm looking at you Footman's and Hist Bark!) and decided to be the last one through the doors to help protect the group.

A couple of times they try, in vain, to pick me off but it doesn't work; I am able to keep alive until a couple of my group can come back through and help out. Towards the end of the run we were trying to head down a sewer entrance to head back to base. I was bringing up the rear as usual and all of a sudden 4 AD and 2 DC (the same 2 DC gankers) pop out of nowhere and start hammering away at me. These are all CP630 players, assuming they are set with at least some PVP gear, and none of them could take me down. Rest of my group popped back up the ladder and proceeded to mow through them.

Let me reiterate; I was in PVE gear and 6 players could not kill me. What they could do though was whisper me and tell me what a PVP noob zergling I was! I whispered back agreeing completely with them and applauded them for their ability to see I was not a PVP star. Insert more salty comments from them directed at my crappy PVP playstyle...insert more agreement from me that I know nothing of PVP. The last whisper I got told me I should be ashamed 'to be proud of my zergling self.'

The last whisper I sent was "I am neither proud or ashamed of my zergling ways...but killing you was sure a lot of fun!"

I don't think I knew how seriously players in this game took their PVP until this event. Wow...just wow! Anyways, thought I'd share my experience and ask if anyone had anything similar happen to them?

Six people is nothing for a Tank. Get you a good pvp set and take on twenty

Yakidafi

This told me absolutely nothing.

Edit: for clarification it tell me as little as when pvpers post the same thing but about their first pve experience with the salty pve players.

SydneyGrey

I did PvP today. It was the first time I've ever defended a keep. I was in my PvE gear, too. The only time I've ever been in Cyrodiil before was to do a couple of scouting missions (one successful, one not), so defending a keep was a new experience for me.
Loved it. Will do it again. Maybe some day I won't suck at it.

Houshiki

Good on you OP. I wouldn't say you're a zergling though, you basically took on the rear-guard role to keep the rest of your group from getting picked off. Brilliantly done.

R4TTIUS

Have to totally agree with OP, I'm a level 199 (200 today lool) I had never played PvP until this event so I switched up some gear and got right into it, luckily a met someone who was willing to teach me the ways of the master ganker, I came out of PvP with about 100 kills and 2+ million in damage, now I was running a full pve setup basically, full hundings rage and leviathan with monster 1-1, yes I ran around headless every now and again and got lost occasionally but I found the experience so much fun (apart from the zerg lag), having someone with me who knows PvP very well massively helped but at the same time I enjoyed just getting involved, if you can just get over the fact that everyone dies alot then PvP is awesome I think pveers have a hard time wutht the amount of deaths they incur as you rarely die in pve, I have well and truly been converted to a casual PvP player.

If you want to receive salty mails just use snipe on bow and spam it lmao you will be the worst player in the world to everyone around on the other team but just snipe stack and have fun, I definitely think the biggest thing is to find a group tho as it's great fun watching 20-30-40-50 off you charging into a keep.

Top tips for kills, MEATBAG trebuchet & Flaming oil are worth there weight in Tel Var I swear to it and watching your screen fill with numbers when you MEATBAG punch a zerg baaahahahahahahaha

Today I will switch to full viper full hundings and Selene's if I can get the helmet (so basically I won't have the helmet), and watch change my build a bit and then get right back into the carnage that is mid year lagfest, but I will wholeheartedly enjoy those salty ass messages

Grim13

CHEAT ENGINE!

ofSunhold

Not even supertricky lethal nightblades get people more enraged than those who won't die, or die fast enough to their special DD moves.

ONE OF US ONE OF US

Iyas

I ask myself the question how many pve Player think they got hate whispers from PvP Player but they are propably pve Players themselves

Not that PvP Player are not salty. But most PvP Player dont give a *** anymore

Vapirko

Congrats. And I do mean that genuinely.

Biro123

idk...

Bethaney, Champ, you are both well-known PVP-haters... I'm sure you've both had some bad experiences at some point - but you are wrong to think that its all like that.. (unless perhaps it is where you play... Are you both US-based perhaps?)

Certainly on PC-EU, in 2 years playing ONLY PVP, I have had maybe 2 hate tells, and seen maybe 2 arguments in zone chat (I don't group).. I've had a LOT more friendly chats with my opponents.

I've seen a damn sight worse than that in the month I spent in PVE trying to grind undaunted mettle! Rage quitting, vote-kicking.. I mean what worse can you do in an online game than exclude someone from your group? I ended up finishing it by soloing dungeons instead - it was just so much more relaxing.

To the OP... There are a LOT of PVEers playing PVP right now. So much so that I havn't been able to get through the door to my usual home (Vivec). How do you know that these 2 salty gankers weren't PVEers trying to get their 50 killing blows..?
I suspect they were because any experienced PVPer would know to not try to gank the tank. Especially after failing once already.

Any average PVPer knows that they lose 50% of fights.. Those that can't deal with losing quit PVP and go back to PVE-land pretty quick. And I can tell from the post that these 2 are NOT in that rare top 10% of PVPers who rarely lose.

Even those who are in the top 10%, well, those are the players who constantly challenge themselves, putting themselves in situations where they are vastly outnumbered and there is every chance that they will lose. They know that when they lose its because they made a mistake... So don't really get salty with their opponents either..

MyKillv2.0

Did they fix the group que for BG? I only ask because when Morrowind first released on console, I spent about a whole day there. It was fun, I guess. ESO Call of Duty is all it really was.... but never went back until yesterday. Before, I was winning matches about 1/3 rate, maybe higher. Now? Took me ten tries to finally win a match. You can tell the groups are more coordinated as well. Did they fix the group bug or did RNG Jesus just stick it too me last night?

RobDaCool

Yeah, I noticed yesterday that it's more entertaining listening to grown men brag about their make believe video game accomplishments than it is to actually PVP lol

Libonotus

Soriana wrote: »

I am not a PVP'er and have never claimed to be; I have no PVP sets, have no clue what to do while PVP'ing, and honestly the only time I ever do PVP are in special events like this or to telvar farm with my guild. While running with my guild tonight doing a little AP farming in IC we notice a couple of gankers following us. I am assuming they saw a big group, probably 12 of us or so, and figured it would be easy pickin's to cut off a few stragglers. My main is a tank so I was running in my old PVE tank gear (I'm looking at you Footman's and Hist Bark!) and decided to be the last one through the doors to help protect the group.

A couple of times they try, in vain, to pick me off but it doesn't work; I am able to keep alive until a couple of my group can come back through and help out. Towards the end of the run we were trying to head down a sewer entrance to head back to base. I was bringing up the rear as usual and all of a sudden 4 AD and 2 DC (the same 2 DC gankers) pop out of nowhere and start hammering away at me. These are all CP630 players, assuming they are set with at least some PVP gear, and none of them could take me down. Rest of my group popped back up the ladder and proceeded to mow through them.

Let me reiterate; I was in PVE gear and 6 players could not kill me. What they could do though was whisper me and tell me what a PVP noob zergling I was! I whispered back agreeing completely with them and applauded them for their ability to see I was not a PVP star. Insert more salty comments from them directed at my crappy PVP playstyle...insert more agreement from me that I know nothing of PVP. The last whisper I got told me I should be ashamed 'to be proud of my zergling self.'

The last whisper I sent was "I am neither proud or ashamed of my zergling ways...but killing you was sure a lot of fun!"

I don't think I knew how seriously players in this game took their PVP until this event. Wow...just wow! Anyways, thought I'd share my experience and ask if anyone had anything similar happen to them?

Most gankers aren't even skilled. They rely on their ultimate being up and Selene proc. Without it, they hit like a wet paper bag

SpearDusk

Biro123 wrote: »

idk...

Bethaney, Champ, you are both well-known PVP-haters... I'm sure you've both had some bad experiences at some point - but you are wrong to think that its all like that.. (unless perhaps it is where you play... Are you both US-based perhaps?)

Certainly on PC-EU, in 2 years playing ONLY PVP, I have had maybe 2 hate tells, and seen maybe 2 arguments in zone chat (I don't group).. I've had a LOT more friendly chats with my opponents.

Yeah I've been wondering the same; Do people get more salt messages on US or EU? (research project ) I'm on EU and done quite a bit of pvp and only got one whisper from all those hours in pvp

LadyNalcarya

Biro123 wrote: »

idk...

Bethaney, Champ, you are both well-known PVP-haters... I'm sure you've both had some bad experiences at some point - but you are wrong to think that its all like that.. (unless perhaps it is where you play... Are you both US-based perhaps?)

Certainly on PC-EU, in 2 years playing ONLY PVP, I have had maybe 2 hate tells, and seen maybe 2 arguments in zone chat (I don't group).. I've had a LOT more friendly chats with my opponents.

I've seen a damn sight worse than that in the month I spent in PVE trying to grind undaunted mettle! Rage quitting, vote-kicking.. I mean what worse can you do in an online game than exclude someone from your group? I ended up finishing it by soloing dungeons instead - it was just so much more relaxing.

To the OP... There are a LOT of PVEers playing PVP right now. So much so that I havn't been able to get through the door to my usual home (Vivec). How do you know that these 2 salty gankers weren't PVEers trying to get their 50 killing blows..?
I suspect they were because any experienced PVPer would know to not try to gank the tank. Especially after failing once already.

Any average PVPer knows that they lose 50% of fights.. Those that can't deal with losing quit PVP and go back to PVE-land pretty quick. And I can tell from the post that these 2 are NOT in that rare top 10% of PVPers who rarely lose.

Even those who are in the top 10%, well, those are the players who constantly challenge themselves, putting themselves in situations where they are vastly outnumbered and there is every chance that they will lose. They know that when they lose its because they made a mistake... So don't really get salty with their opponents either..

Dunno, I'm on PC EU and I definitely had my share of hatemail during the event.
As I said earlier, I'm not a good pvp player, but it seems that not being able to defeat a pver is very painful for some pvpers. Perhaps they thought they would get guaranteed ap because of the event and were pissed when they didnt. For example, thats what I got from a guy who couldnt burst me as he probably hoped:

I didnt screenshot the rest, because they were way too rude. But I reported them.
There is a sort of pvp players who think they're inherently superior to pvers, maybe thats somehow related.

Tan9oSuccka

Awe. I want some blueberry and banana salt.

It's been too long.

Soriana

Biro123 wrote: »

idk...

Bethaney, Champ, you are both well-known PVP-haters... I'm sure you've both had some bad experiences at some point - but you are wrong to think that its all like that.. (unless perhaps it is where you play... Are you both US-based perhaps?)

Certainly on PC-EU, in 2 years playing ONLY PVP, I have had maybe 2 hate tells, and seen maybe 2 arguments in zone chat (I don't group).. I've had a LOT more friendly chats with my opponents.

I've seen a damn sight worse than that in the month I spent in PVE trying to grind undaunted mettle! Rage quitting, vote-kicking.. I mean what worse can you do in an online game than exclude someone from your group? I ended up finishing it by soloing dungeons instead - it was just so much more relaxing.

To the OP... There are a LOT of PVEers playing PVP right now. So much so that I havn't been able to get through the door to my usual home (Vivec). How do you know that these 2 salty gankers weren't PVEers trying to get their 50 killing blows..?
I suspect they were because any experienced PVPer would know to not try to gank the tank. Especially after failing once already.

Any average PVPer knows that they lose 50% of fights.. Those that can't deal with losing quit PVP and go back to PVE-land pretty quick. And I can tell from the post that these 2 are NOT in that rare top 10% of PVPers who rarely lose.

Even those who are in the top 10%, well, those are the players who constantly challenge themselves, putting themselves in situations where they are vastly outnumbered and there is every chance that they will lose. They know that when they lose its because they made a mistake... So don't really get salty with their opponents either..

You are absolutely right, I have no clue whether they were true PVP'ers or just playing around for AP like I was. I do know the only other person I have whispered so far during this event was one player who did the laugh emote over my body when I died due to fall damage. We had quite a laugh about it and went our merry ways. Yes, there are bad apples in PVE as well but I have not experienced the sheer quickness of rage there as in PVP. Usually PVE'ers will give it a go in a dungeon, trial, WB, etc a couple of times before they tell you to shove off...but that's just my experience.

leepalmer95

If they we're competent pvpers and actually knew what they was doing they would of ignored the tank and dismantled the squishys...

DDemon

Sometimes people whisper hateful things to me as well, it really hurts my feelings...

Shardan4968

I think I can call myself a PvPer and I'm very polite and respectful player even for "n00bs" and when someone one shot me. I never teabagged anyone and I won't do it to any stranger because I don't know if that person like this. It's just a(n awesome) game. When I win a duel I'm happy but I don't think that my opponent is a n00b, maybe he is newbie or just had a bad day, like meh sometimes. Idiots are everywhere in both PvP and PvE, they are few but louder than many nice people.

Anlace

Soriana wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

idk...

Bethaney, Champ, you are both well-known PVP-haters... I'm sure you've both had some bad experiences at some point - but you are wrong to think that its all like that.. (unless perhaps it is where you play... Are you both US-based perhaps?)

Certainly on PC-EU, in 2 years playing ONLY PVP, I have had maybe 2 hate tells, and seen maybe 2 arguments in zone chat (I don't group).. I've had a LOT more friendly chats with my opponents.

I've seen a damn sight worse than that in the month I spent in PVE trying to grind undaunted mettle! Rage quitting, vote-kicking.. I mean what worse can you do in an online game than exclude someone from your group? I ended up finishing it by soloing dungeons instead - it was just so much more relaxing.

To the OP... There are a LOT of PVEers playing PVP right now. So much so that I havn't been able to get through the door to my usual home (Vivec). How do you know that these 2 salty gankers weren't PVEers trying to get their 50 killing blows..?
I suspect they were because any experienced PVPer would know to not try to gank the tank. Especially after failing once already.

Any average PVPer knows that they lose 50% of fights.. Those that can't deal with losing quit PVP and go back to PVE-land pretty quick. And I can tell from the post that these 2 are NOT in that rare top 10% of PVPers who rarely lose.

Even those who are in the top 10%, well, those are the players who constantly challenge themselves, putting themselves in situations where they are vastly outnumbered and there is every chance that they will lose. They know that when they lose its because they made a mistake... So don't really get salty with their opponents either..

You are absolutely right, I have no clue whether they were true PVP'ers or just playing around for AP like I was. I do know the only other person I have whispered so far during this event was one player who did the laugh emote over my body when I died due to fall damage. We had quite a laugh about it and went our merry ways. Yes, there are bad apples in PVE as well but I have not experienced the sheer quickness of rage there as in PVP. Usually PVE'ers will give it a go in a dungeon, trial, WB, etc a couple of times before they tell you to shove off...but that's just my experience.

ZOS has very cunningly added a bunch of extra frustrations to PvP for this event. Nobody's at their best when they're eating a constant stream of frustrations.

Not an excuse at all, it's just a game peeps. But definitely a contributing factor.

Prof_Bawbag

You can whisper people on opposing sides? I never knew that. I remember someone telling me to type /w, but that never worked either.

I just wanted to know what armour he had on.