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Fixing low level dugeon que
heartburnkid
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Maybe make it so low levels only get qued in with 50 < in nerfed dungeons. When they hit 50 they get grouped with 50 > only with cp in regular dungeons when blind queing. Keep veteran dungeons as is, maybe buff them. I am ready to stop queing altogether due to the ridiculous system in place now. When a reg dungeon takes forever to complete because the dps are too low level and the only high is a tank or healer, it sucks. Maybe I should join a guild? Problem with them is they seem to want donations. And yea, buff that.
Just a rant. I been queing as a 422 heal and keep getting people less than level 30 that don't know mechanics or have skill. I am far from great but damn.
Just a rant. I been queing as a 422 heal and keep getting people less than level 30 that don't know mechanics or have skill. I am far from great but damn.
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zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Main problem is that the DLC dungeons don't have level restrictions like the harder standard dungeons have.
An level 10-15 has 50% chance of getting an DLC dungeon rater than Elden hollow or wayrest
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.1 -
KochDerDamonen✭✭✭✭✭
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+ThisMain problem is that the DLC dungeons don't have level restrictions like the harder standard dungeons have.
An level 10-15 has 50% chance of getting an DLC dungeon rater than Elden hollow or wayrest
At level 10 you have the three base dungeons (Fungal, Banished, and Spindle), and if you're a level 10 subscriber you have those plus the IC dungeons(2), Hist dungeons(2), and soon the two nordic dungeons. It's already weighed in favor of getting a substantially more difficult DLC dungeon if you queue as a level 10 subscriber, and next update it will be 50/50 with the tier two dungeons (15? 20? forget what level they 'unlock' for your random queue). It's absolutely bonkers and unpleasant, makes the random Normal almost unusable for most actually lower level players.If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].0 -
max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Everyone has to start sometime. No one was born playing the game. If you don't have the patience for a truly random pug, make your group by asking in zone.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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And its so stupid, simply add an level 45-50 as minimum level.KochDerDamonen wrote: »
+ThisMain problem is that the DLC dungeons don't have level restrictions like the harder standard dungeons have.
An level 10-15 has 50% chance of getting an DLC dungeon rater than Elden hollow or wayrest
At level 10 you have the three base dungeons (Fungal, Banished, and Spindle), and if you're a level 10 subscriber you have those plus the IC dungeons(2), Hist dungeons(2), and soon the two nordic dungeons. It's already weighed in favor of getting a substantially more difficult DLC dungeon if you queue as a level 10 subscriber, and next update it will be 50/50 with the tier two dungeons (15? 20? forget what level they 'unlock' for your random queue). It's absolutely bonkers and unpleasant, makes the random Normal almost unusable for most actually lower level players.
Once you are in to it remove the level restriction from pre formed group. You will not get it as random, and you can not queue solo but in group you can enter.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MrBetadine wrote: »
No where in the OP does it mention DLC dungeons. And yes I've run ICP with lvl 14s. and even WGT a lvl 19 wearing lvl 10 gear who leveled in the middle and was thus wearing gear at half effectiveness. I've come in on CoS groups stuck at Dranos Velandor and had to pass out food, repair kits and even soul gems because they didn't have any (or even more ridiculous was the person who was "saving" them).
If you aren't prepared for a truly Random pug, make your group from zone chat.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
#OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
|| CP 1000+ || PC/NA || GUILDS: LWH; IA; CH; XA
""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom0 -
MrBetadine✭✭✭✭MrBetadine wrote: »
No where in the OP does it mention DLC dungeons. And yes I've run ICP with lvl 14s. and even WGT a lvl 19 wearing lvl 10 gear who leveled in the middle and was thus wearing gear at half effectiveness. I've come in on CoS groups stuck at Dranos Velandor and had to pass out food, repair kits and even soul gems because they didn't have any (or even more ridiculous was the person who was "saving" them).
If you aren't prepared for a truly Random pug, make your group from zone chat.
There is no 'too low dps' for the first 6 dungeons, only for DLC dungeons.
You've run ICP with low levels, congratulations, but that does not make things logical. you mentioned you gave them food, repair and soul gems. If it was beginner dungeons, these things are mostly not needed even for low level new players. The DLC dungeons just have a too steep learning curve. The decision that mixing level 10 dungeons and DLC dungeons are BAD GAME DESIGN AND NEEDS TO BE FIXED.Edited by MrBetadine on July 22, 2017 4:33AM0 -
sigmaxl✭✭✭If youre 400+cp and still running regs i dont feel bad that youre grouped with noobsGt : Sig the Feared
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Krayzie✭✭✭✭✭MrBetadine wrote: »
No where in the OP does it mention DLC dungeons. And yes I've run ICP with lvl 14s. and even WGT a lvl 19 wearing lvl 10 gear who leveled in the middle and was thus wearing gear at half effectiveness. I've come in on CoS groups stuck at Dranos Velandor and had to pass out food, repair kits and even soul gems because they didn't have any (or even more ridiculous was the person who was "saving" them).
If you aren't prepared for a truly Random pug, make your group from zone chat.
WOW KEWL YOU DID???
No reason the DLC dungeons should be an option for low level inexperienced people.I'm a PVE roleplayer concerned about my vampires stage 4 skin tone and keep getting load screens so I came here to distract people from major issues with a rant thread about my characters cosmetic appearance.0 -
bmannb16_ESO✭✭✭I'm more frustrated with the not so random ICP/WGT
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max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MrBetadine wrote: »MrBetadine wrote: »
No where in the OP does it mention DLC dungeons. And yes I've run ICP with lvl 14s. and even WGT a lvl 19 wearing lvl 10 I gear who leveled in the middle and was thus wearing gear at half effectiveness. I've come in on CoS groups stuck at Dranos Velandor and had to pass out food, repair kits and even soul gems because they didn't have any (or even more ridiculous was the person who was "saving" them).
If you aren't prepared for a truly Random pug, make your group from zone chat.
There is no 'too low dps' for the first 6 dungeons, only for DLC dungeons.
You've run ICP with low levels, congratulations, but that does not make things logical. These decisions that mix level 10 dungeons and DLC dungeons are BAD GAME DESIGN AND NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
If I agree with you that it poor game design, what do we discuss now?
Until such time as Zos changes it, you have to accept the reality as it is and figure out a way to reduce your aggravation.
To reduce your aggravation, change to a different method of grouping: form group from zone chat.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
#OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
|| CP 1000+ || PC/NA || GUILDS: LWH; IA; CH; XA
""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom0 -
MrBetadine✭✭✭✭MrBetadine wrote: »MrBetadine wrote: »
No where in the OP does it mention DLC dungeons. And yes I've run ICP with lvl 14s. and even WGT a lvl 19 wearing lvl 10 I gear who leveled in the middle and was thus wearing gear at half effectiveness. I've come in on CoS groups stuck at Dranos Velandor and had to pass out food, repair kits and even soul gems because they didn't have any (or even more ridiculous was the person who was "saving" them).
If you aren't prepared for a truly Random pug, make your group from zone chat.
There is no 'too low dps' for the first 6 dungeons, only for DLC dungeons.
You've run ICP with low levels, congratulations, but that does not make things logical. These decisions that mix level 10 dungeons and DLC dungeons are BAD GAME DESIGN AND NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
If I agree with you that it poor game design, what do we discuss now?
Until such time as Zos changes it, you have to accept the reality as it is and figure out a way to reduce your aggravation.
To reduce your aggravation, change to a different method of grouping: form group from zone chat.
Isnt it one of the function for the forum? Discuss potential problems and provide insight for the developers? If you want to accept everything wrong the developers feed you, then by all means.
Forming group from zone chat is an option, but that does not change the fact that grouping tool is badly designed.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MrBetadine wrote: »MrBetadine wrote: »MrBetadine wrote: »
No where in the OP does it mention DLC dungeons. And yes I've run ICP with lvl 14s. and even WGT a lvl 19 wearing lvl 10 I gear who leveled in the middle and was thus wearing gear at half effectiveness. I've come in on CoS groups stuck at Dranos Velandor and had to pass out food, repair kits and even soul gems because they didn't have any (or even more ridiculous was the person who was "saving" them).
If you aren't prepared for a truly Random pug, make your group from zone chat.
There is no 'too low dps' for the first 6 dungeons, only for DLC dungeons.
You've run ICP with low levels, congratulations, but that does not make things logical. These decisions that mix level 10 dungeons and DLC dungeons are BAD GAME DESIGN AND NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
If I agree with you that it poor game design, what do we discuss now?
Until such time as Zos changes it, you have to accept the reality as it is and figure out a way to reduce your aggravation.
To reduce your aggravation, change to a different method of grouping: form group from zone chat.
Isnt it one of the function for the forum? Discuss potential problems and provide insight for the developers? If you want to accept everything wrong the developers feed you, then by all means.
Forming group from zone chat is an option, but that does not change the fact that grouping tool is badly designed.
Lol every time Zos tries to "upgrade" the features on the group finder they break it. Even the simplest function "forming a group" is broken half the time and you believe they are going to start locking the dungeons that come from the PAID dlc? To Zos, these aren't noobs, these are customers who have purchased the optional DLC/optional membership. they aren't about to lock money spenders out of content to appease any of us.
Edited by max_only on July 22, 2017 4:56AM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
#OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
|| CP 1000+ || PC/NA || GUILDS: LWH; IA; CH; XA
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MrBetadine✭✭✭✭MrBetadine wrote: »MrBetadine wrote: »MrBetadine wrote: »
No where in the OP does it mention DLC dungeons. And yes I've run ICP with lvl 14s. and even WGT a lvl 19 wearing lvl 10 I gear who leveled in the middle and was thus wearing gear at half effectiveness. I've come in on CoS groups stuck at Dranos Velandor and had to pass out food, repair kits and even soul gems because they didn't have any (or even more ridiculous was the person who was "saving" them).
If you aren't prepared for a truly Random pug, make your group from zone chat.
There is no 'too low dps' for the first 6 dungeons, only for DLC dungeons.
You've run ICP with low levels, congratulations, but that does not make things logical. These decisions that mix level 10 dungeons and DLC dungeons are BAD GAME DESIGN AND NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
If I agree with you that it poor game design, what do we discuss now?
Until such time as Zos changes it, you have to accept the reality as it is and figure out a way to reduce your aggravation.
To reduce your aggravation, change to a different method of grouping: form group from zone chat.
Isnt it one of the function for the forum? Discuss potential problems and provide insight for the developers? If you want to accept everything wrong the developers feed you, then by all means.
Forming group from zone chat is an option, but that does not change the fact that grouping tool is badly designed.
Lol every time Zos tries to "upgrade" the features on the group finder they break it. Even the simplest function "forming a group" is broken half the time and you believe they are going to start locking the dungeons that come from the PAID dlc? To Zos, these aren't noobs, these are customers who have purchased the optional DLC/optional membership. they aren't about to lock money spenders out of content to appease any of us.
Is rhis Stockholm Syndrome?0 -
Argah✭✭✭✭Mechanics for normal dungeons?
They barely exist mate at 200cp I can carry a team of 3 with a couple heals and some DPS skills and anyway, why not do VETS if you struggle with low level players.0 -
heartburnkid✭✭✭bmannb16_ESO wrote: »I'm more frustrated with the not so random ICP/WGT
I made that complaint known too, friend. Sick of those two.0
