Dragonstar Arena

Alcast

I think most people can agree that Dragonstar Arena is one of the best content pieces out there for group-pve. Sadly, not a lot of people play the content because there is NOTHING to get from it.

Why are not a lot of ppl playing the content?
Well its obvious, the loot in there is mostly useless. Most Master weapons are outdated and way too weak compared to Maelstrom or normal crafted weapons. No gold to gain from there, you actually are going to loose money most likely because you have to use a ton of potions etc.

What can be done to improve popularity of the best pve content in the game?
Simple, revamp the Master weapons, boost them, make them stronger or change the effects all around. The only two good items really are the Restoration Staff and the Bow to get from there, all other weapons are far inferior compared to other sets.

Why do the Weapons suck?
Lets compare Dagger to a normal dagger with an infused poison enchant.
Master Dagger= 94 Weapon damage and a laughing 258 extra damage on Twin Slashes
Infused Dagger with Poison Enchant= in HornsoftheReach the poison enchant ALONE does about 3k dps (yes THREEFUCKINGKEEEY) plus you get another 5 piece bonus if you have two daggers

Master Destro Staff= 516 extra damage on your clench
Normal Destro Staff with infused weapon enchant= about an extra 400 SPELLDAMAGE with almost a 100% uptime.

stop being lazy, revamp the weapons so everyone can have fun again in there
In the end, the more happy people that like to play your content, the more they will buy the *** crown store items, so there is defo profit in there for yo guys. And if you do not have time to come up with stuff, I am happy to help

So please, "upgrade" those sets and give us more monetary reasons to go there and everyone will be happy. Believe me, people rather go to Dragon Star arena with FRIENDS rather than doing Maelstrom arena SOLO

It is also easier to gather 4 people instead of 12 people to do content together.

@ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Finn @ZOS_JessicaFolsom


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Dasovaruilos

I totally agree.

I really like vDSA. Currently, it is the only content I'm actually excited to run with my guild when it is the weekly.

As a healer, I kind of have a lot of stuff to get there, from several traits of Restos to chasing that Lightning Destro that still hasn't popped up for me or my group in over 20 runs now.

But the other weapons are really not that good... For a content that requires commitment for 1 hour for most groups, or even 3, 4 hours for newer groups (I know a group that took 7 hours to beat it), the rewards are pretty unexciting.

Unless you are a healer there is not much to get there... vDSA Bow may be good, but the vMA bow is just sooo much better that unless you are going for a PvP build or a dual bow build, it will be mostly useless too.

TheForseti

I definitely agree. I don't enjoy trials much because getting 12 good players together consistently is fairly onerous. I really enjoy the challenge of vDSA, and getting a group of 4 together consistently is pretty easy to do. I just haven't run the content much in a long time because there isn't any incentive. Give me some incentive, ZOS!

bitels

Totally agree- vDSA is one of the best content ZoS put into game. Ppl just need reward worth of time and gold they have to spend on doing it.

marcusthebearhunter

the dagger are extrem good in pve i get ther ticks of 6 till 8.5 k low cost and i can go away from the boss and the 2 hander in pvp as a axe doubel bleding its so great first poison injection whit masterbow then the bleding and they drop like candys out of a pinata

marcusthebearhunter

oh and try too get a precise and infussed dagger that is perfect combo for next patch

DRXHarbinger

@Alcast Dude, you told me to get a Master Lit staff for my pet build...

The rest of them...Meh, Daggers need a massive buff, like add a 0 on the end of it.

Master Sword was actually really really strong, however I can't survive without running 2x 5pc sets and Sentinal or BS. Even in PVP you're better off running Knights errant 5pc over this item if you play S&B.

Alcast

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

@Alcast Dude, you told me to get a Master Lit staff for my pet build...

The rest of them...Meh, Daggers need a massive buff, like add a 0 on the end of it.

Master Sword was actually really really strong, however I can't survive without running 2x 5pc sets and Sentinal or BS. Even in PVP you're better off running Knights errant 5pc over this item if you play S&B.

This is for Horns of the Reach.

Infused Infallible staff is gonna most likely be the best to get next patch. Or just any Infused Staff with a Spelldamage enchant. Who doesnt want 400 spelldmg with almost 100% uptime?

Also, lots of gear is prolly gonna change on builds.

Joy_Division

DSA was perhaps the best content put out by ZoS and the most fun I ever had playing was when my group was progressing and completing the veteran version.

It would be really nice if the loot was reformed and updated to reflect.

NordSwordnBoard

VDSA fills the gap between vet dungeons and vet trials very well. Cool title given, some great/some good weapons. Tight knit teams shine.

josiahva

The reason I never run vDSA is simple: its not because of the loot(there are certain items I need and want from there). Its the fact that I can never find a group for it when I want to run it. This is easily solved though... ADD IT TO THE GROUP FINDER! As a standalone option(not part of the daily random, etc). I enjoy pugging difficult content, as do others, but I have no option to pug this. This is even more important with the coming nerfs to the DLC dungeons.

I wouldn't mind the loot being better too of course, but I mainly want to actually be able to play the content, and group finder(as miserable as it is for some people) would solve that for me.

Asardes

Can't agree more. It's almost impossible to coax people into running it ATM. Ran it only 4-5 times in the last 6 months and each time I end up losing my practice and perform poorly the next time I run it. It's really the last piece of 4 man content I still enjoy since the neutering of IC dungeons and now SotH ones. They will probably nerf HotR in time because people constantly whine.

Draqone

josiahva wrote: »

The reason I never run vDSA is simple: its not because of the loot(there are certain items I need and want from there). Its the fact that I can never find a group for it when I want to run it. This is easily solved though... ADD IT TO THE GROUP FINDER! As a standalone option(not part of the daily random, etc). I enjoy pugging difficult content, as do others, but I have no option to pug this. This is even more important with the coming nerfs to the DLC dungeons.

I wouldn't mind the loot being better too of course, but I mainly want to actually be able to play the content, and group finder(as miserable as it is for some people) would solve that for me.

Doing vDSA with a random group would take 10 hours. If you'd be able to finish at all.

Sunah

josiahva wrote: »

The reason I never run vDSA is simple: its not because of the loot(there are certain items I need and want from there). Its the fact that I can never find a group for it when I want to run it. This is easily solved though... ADD IT TO THE GROUP FINDER! As a standalone option(not part of the daily random, etc). I enjoy pugging difficult content, as do others, but I have no option to pug this. This is even more important with the coming nerfs to the DLC dungeons.

I wouldn't mind the loot being better too of course, but I mainly want to actually be able to play the content, and group finder(as miserable as it is for some people) would solve that for me.

This, along with a few other vet dungeons.. Darkshade 2 and crypt of hearts 2, I will NEVER pug, ever. Unless im with 2 other people and we are pugging for 1.. maybe.. MAYBE.... I play games to have fun not cause more stress in my life. Im a 911 dispatcher so I got enough stress.

DarkGottbeard

Open up the weapon type options too.. We need masters Great Axe.

Strider_Roshin

Best PvE in the game is DSA. It would be nice if there was an incentive to return.

josiahva

Draqone wrote: »

josiahva wrote: »

The reason I never run vDSA is simple: its not because of the loot(there are certain items I need and want from there). Its the fact that I can never find a group for it when I want to run it. This is easily solved though... ADD IT TO THE GROUP FINDER! As a standalone option(not part of the daily random, etc). I enjoy pugging difficult content, as do others, but I have no option to pug this. This is even more important with the coming nerfs to the DLC dungeons.

I wouldn't mind the loot being better too of course, but I mainly want to actually be able to play the content, and group finder(as miserable as it is for some people) would solve that for me.

Doing vDSA with a random group would take 10 hours. If you'd be able to finish at all.

I honestly doubt it. It would work just like vRoM and vCoS. At first, you could never pug those dungeons...it was constantly a disaster, no one knew the mechanics or the fights...but as time went on and the puggers gained more practice the completion rate I have for those dungeons is close to 80% now. Now, I will admit that most people would never want to pug vDSA, but it should be an option at least. Putting it in the group finder wouldn't harm anyone...no one is forced to use the group finder after all. It would make for a miserable experience for many people who dared to pug it, but I would enjoy the challenge myself.

SirSocke

Agreed. Running vDSA twice a month at least.
Farming for a sharpened bow but never got one...
But the content is really great and I'd run it even with no loot at all, but a slightly buff for the masterweapons would be really great.
Especially since I never got a maelstrom bow, caused by really bad loot luck... Ice staff, ice staff, dagger, ice staff ...

Koolio

Yes please

Eradrann

I've yet to do a normal run on this (friends bailed on me by the time I got to Craglorn)... would love to farm for precise and sharp bows though!

It really does seem dead, a revamp is probably needed.

xb1LL_mr_sir_LL

i think zos would be more likely to make a new 4 man arena and put it in a dlc before updating dsa.
still want dsa updated though.

d8rmir

Or even better a brand new 4men arena!
And beside the weapons, also the other sets there need some rework

stevepdodson_ESO888

Alcast wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

@Alcast Dude, you told me to get a Master Lit staff for my pet build...

The rest of them...Meh, Daggers need a massive buff, like add a 0 on the end of it.

Master Sword was actually really really strong, however I can't survive without running 2x 5pc sets and Sentinal or BS. Even in PVP you're better off running Knights errant 5pc over this item if you play S&B.

This is for Horns of the Reach.

Infused Infallible staff is gonna most likely be the best to get next patch. Or just any Infused Staff with a Spelldamage enchant. Who doesnt want 400 spelldmg with almost 100% uptime?

Also, lots of gear is prolly gonna change on builds.

if ZOS ever get round to fixing Infused it might not be as good as you think right now

Draqone

xb1LL_mr_sir_LL wrote: »

i think zos would be more likely to make a new 4 man arena and put it in a dlc before updating dsa.
still want dsa updated though.

It's fine as content, all that needs changed is the weapon bonuses.

overclocker303b14_ESO

Completely agree.

To go further I'd really like to see the next round of 'fixes and improvements' focus on fixing most of the sets in the game instead of just changing sets / traits / values for 'balance' and making something else BIS for the next few months. The game has been out for 3 years now and with the latest patch I think things are balanced enough at this point.

In the case of weapons, it would be cool if BIS weapons came from vMA OR vDSA so you could decide if you want to play solo or in a group.

Then there's armor sets. I'd go into those but I don't feel like putting a huge wall of text here right now.

MLGProPlayer

I'd rather grind vDSA than vMA for gear. I play MMOs for group content, not solo content.

ccfeeling

Vma is always the icon , enjoy the solo content beeps rofl
1.5 hr solo vs 2-3hr group play (depends your group) but bad loots , funny concept...
I will never think ZOS will rework the loots , they never go to the correct direction ,beside, please pay all your afford on fixing lag issues , I would sad to stay with huge lag spikes until a better mmo up :-)
Btw , thx alcast suggestion

Masel

I only do it for the scores by now... Agreed on most of the weapons needing a nice revamp. Also, I'd like a no-death and speedrun title and a skin for it as well. This would give another incentive for doing it.

NotNormanBates

i really like the idea of having BIS weapon's drop from vMA or VDSA. i personally love vMA and pray for a new solo arena to be added to the game. That being said i can understand why people don't like doing solo content, as it is an MMO. It's only fair that there are two ways to get BIS gear, that are still locked behind challenging content.

SodanTok

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

I'd rather grind vDSA than vMA for gear. I play MMOs for group content, not solo content.

NotNormanBates wrote: »

i really like the idea of having BIS weapon's drop from vMA or VDSA. i personally love vMA and pray for a new solo arena to be added to the game. That being said i can understand why people don't like doing solo content, as it is an MMO. It's only fair that there are two ways to get BIS gear, that are still locked behind challenging content.

Something ZoS would never do (and some people would complain), but why not just give you choice of either vma weapon or master weapon from each of these. People hating VMA or solo content could get to grind their vma weapons from DSA (maybe DSA giving both at once or choice of 2 because it is more time consuming) and people unable to ever get master weapon from DSA because it is unsoloable and unPUGable could get one from VMA, slightly increasing build variety and interest in them.

d8rmir

SodanTok wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

I'd rather grind vDSA than vMA for gear. I play MMOs for group content, not solo content.

NotNormanBates wrote: »

i really like the idea of having BIS weapon's drop from vMA or VDSA. i personally love vMA and pray for a new solo arena to be added to the game. That being said i can understand why people don't like doing solo content, as it is an MMO. It's only fair that there are two ways to get BIS gear, that are still locked behind challenging content.

Something ZoS would never do (and some people would complain), but why not just give you choice of either vma weapon or master weapon from each of these. People hating VMA or solo content could get to grind their vma weapons from DSA (maybe DSA giving both at once or choice of 2 because it is more time consuming) and people unable to ever get master weapon from DSA because it is unsoloable and unPUGable could get one from VMA, slightly increasing build variety and interest in them.

And people who cannot clear maelstrom arena can be carried through dsa for money!