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PvP event and you did not remove/adjust the pop locks?
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I am sitting over 150 in queue right now at 10:39am on a Thursday.
http://imgur.com/a/0wkhm
@Wrobel @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Something needs to change. It's 2017 and the game is still messed up, particularly Cyrodiil. Little has changed since v.1.2.3 and Cyrodiil still has tremendous lag, FPS drops, random disconnects, etc. Now during primetime we have a horrible queue time which usually results waiting an hour or more to get to play the game. This is largely unacceptable to those of us that have a 40+ hour work week or school or both.
Some of us subscribers who have been with you since beta stuck around for PvP. Now we can barely do that. Something needs to change and you should have thought about this before launching a PvP event that will draw non pvpers as well.
Edited by Xael on July 20, 2017 3:26PM http://imgur.com/a/0wkhm
@Wrobel @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Something needs to change. It's 2017 and the game is still messed up, particularly Cyrodiil. Little has changed since v.1.2.3 and Cyrodiil still has tremendous lag, FPS drops, random disconnects, etc. Now during primetime we have a horrible queue time which usually results waiting an hour or more to get to play the game. This is largely unacceptable to those of us that have a 40+ hour work week or school or both.
Some of us subscribers who have been with you since beta stuck around for PvP. Now we can barely do that. Something needs to change and you should have thought about this before launching a PvP event that will draw non pvpers as well.
I got killed in pvp, nerf everything...
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✭✭I'm pretty sure removing the pop locks would cause the server to crash.PC/EU DC13 -
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✭✭✭Maybe [snip] enter a different campaign, and then que for the other while you are playing. [snip]
[Edit to remove bait.]Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on July 20, 2017 5:48PM
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✭✭✭✭✭vamp_emily wrote: »Maybe [snip] enter a different campaign, and then que for the other while you are playing. [snip]
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I don't think it's unreasonable to want to play in your home campaign.Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on July 20, 2017 5:49PM4 -
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It's nice to see that you have it under control... only reason I play the game at all is to play in cyrodiil. Which I can't do now... Thank you very much![EU-AD] | Lilisara Adthar | Templar | Aliance Rank 33
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✭Sandman929 wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Maybe [snip] enter a different campaign, and then que for the other while you are playing. [snip]
[Edit to remove bait.]
I don't think it's unreasonable to want to play in your home campaign.
It's unreasonable to assume that their servers can handle unlocked population caps.
Anyone remember the last double AP event? Nope? The lag was just as bad and the queues were horrendous. ZOS should seriously consider buffing their server capacity before trying this ever again, it's what we all said last time and it's what needs to be said again.Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on July 20, 2017 5:49PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Maybe [snip] enter a different campaign, and then que for the other while you are playing. [snip]
[Edit to remove bait.]
I don't think it's unreasonable to want to play in your home campaign.
It's also not unreasonable to go play in a lower pop campaign while you queue for home. Especially if you're going to Home to the always busy continually cried about because of locks campaign. Which looking at the campaign statuses right now I am guessing OP is Homed to Vivec.
Go play in Shor, it was turned into a CP campaign because Vivec players kept whining for it.Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on July 20, 2017 5:50PM
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Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Maybe [snip] enter a different campaign, and then que for the other while you are playing. [snip]
[Edit to remove bait.]
I don't think it's unreasonable to want to play in your home campaign.
Me neither.
However, I often sit in a que waiting to get into Vivec. I will go to a different campaign and then que for vivec while I am playing. The wait can't be that long with everyone complaining they are getting booted.
Edited by vamp_emily on July 21, 2017 5:44PM
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✭✭✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Maybe [snip] enter a different campaign, and then que for the other while you are playing. [snip]
[Edit to remove bait.]
I don't think it's unreasonable to want to play in your home campaign.
It's also not unreasonable to go play in a lower pop campaign while you queue for home. Especially if you're going to Home to the always busy continually cried about because of locks campaign. Which looking at the campaign statuses right now I am guessing OP is Homed to Vivec.
Go play in Shor, it was turned into a CP campaign because Vivec players kept whining for it.
Well on Xbox NA, both Shor and Vivec are locked on any given night even without double AP. I'm expecting tonight to be exponentially worse. I have no interest in the outcome or status of campaigns that aren't my home campaign, so I can relate to not being super excited about being forced into another campaign by ridiculous queues. Some are happy playing just anywhere, and some aren't.
Removing locks obviously won't work, but it doesn't look like herding players toward empty no-CP campaigns by reducing CP campaigns is working either.Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on July 20, 2017 6:19PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭every PC/EU server is locked atm...more smarts hints pls
Queue for the one you know to be less populated. Get in faster. Then queue for the big one, while playing and earning AP.
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[Edit to remove bait.]Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on July 20, 2017 6:20PM
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Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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The least they could have done is open another campaign for the duration of the event, no end campaign rewards or whatever, just an open field.Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on July 20, 2017 6:20PM0 -
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The least they could have done is open another campaign for the duration of the event, no end campaign rewards or whatever, just an open field.
I don't think it will help much.
Traditionally, ESO PVP players all shove themselves into the same camp.
We saw this with True Flame vs Haderus.
We see this now with Vivec vs Shor,
People who don't know any better tend to go where the population is and follow the rest of them right into the cramped campaign.
I watched people on this forum moan for a month about adding another CP campaign. They turned the 7day no CP into a CP enabled campaign and it hardly changed a thing, and people were, up to yesterday, still moaning about Vivec being poplocked.Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on July 20, 2017 6:21PM
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Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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The least they could have done is open another campaign for the duration of the event, no end campaign rewards or whatever, just an open field.
I don't think it will help much.
Traditionally, ESO PVP players all shove themselves into the same camp.
We saw this with True Flame vs Haderus.
We see this now with Vivec vs Shor,
People who don't know any better tend to go where the population is and follow the rest of them right into the cramped campaign.
I watched people on this forum moan for a month about adding another CP campaign. They turned the 7day no CP into a CP enabled campaign and it hardly changed a thing, and people were, up to yesterday, still moaning about Vivec being poplocked.
People who have no clue about PvP, and who will be attracted to Cyrodiil for this event might not look at populations and would have joined anything I'm sure. If I have to wait 30 min even to get in the least populated campaign, and if it crashes because of lag like it usually does so that I have to queue again, I'm probably not gonna be able to take part in the double ap event at all.
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Because vivec players kept crying?? Get off of the pedestal! Serious tho last time this event happened all servers were hurting, we asked if they did another AP event to ad more to spread out the population just for the event and to get rid of the enormous queue's.
Do you think it's fair for the main pvpers that work for a living to come home to a queue of 500+ not really, yes we can pvp on another server till our home queue pops but the whole point is zos knew each campaign would be poplocked from the start and to ignore adding additional campaigns for this event to prevent long queues and enormous stress on the servers is beyond me!1 -
incite✭✭✭✭Zos: "you may or may not have noticed but the queue's are a bit longer than usual. We promoted the event as best we could, we forgot the current campaigns cant handle that much traffic, hehe woepsiepoeps
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✭✭✭✭✭PeaNutShotz wrote: »@Sigtric
Because vivec players kept crying?? Get off of the pedestal! Serious tho last time this event happened all servers were hurting, we asked if they did another AP event to ad more to spread out the population just for the event and to get rid of the enormous queue's.
Do you think it's fair for the main pvpers that work for a living to come home to a queue of 500+ not really, yes we can pvp on another server till our home queue pops but the whole point is zos knew each campaign would be poplocked from the start and to ignore adding additional campaigns for this event to prevent long queues and enormous stress on the servers is beyond me!
And they are still crying.
Also ZOS added another campaign today, which is still not poplocked and VIvec still has a gigantic Q.
Vivec players refuse to leave despite asking for more camps.
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Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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SRASinister✭✭✭Well EP que for Vivec Xbox Na hit over 600 today not even at prime time.Xbox One NA: Sins of Daemons0 -
Tenn60✭✭✭Every campaign was pop locked on na PS4 tonight. Only crashed 4 times sending our group out and into the que again! I cooked dinner during the first and watched a movie during the second last 2 I got back in and made it 30 feet before crashing again and calling it a night. But to be fair I expected issues, just wish they weren't so bad cause when the game works it's awesome so I hope this doesn't turn people away because honestly this is longest I've consistently played a game.0
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✭✭✭✭At one point tonight when I checked, every campaign was poplocked on every faction PC NA.
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✭✭✭The performance issues show that upping pop ratios was NOT a workable solution. They did the best thing they could do and open a temp 7 day campaign.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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✭paulsimonps wrote: »There are more than enough campaigns for us all.
On EU there for sure arent enough campaigns for everyone.
Yesterday eveneing Vivec and Sotha Sil had both a queue of 600+, Shor 300+ and Xerxes also a queue of ~100.
And keep in mind that was just on a thursday evening so those numbers will be even higher during the weekend.
Campaigns crashed several times and it was an unplayable lagfest.Edited by Kr3do on July 21, 2017 8:34AM0 -
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Usually, yes. At prime time during a PvP event? Not so much. Adding up all the queues during prime time, that would have been enough to fill another campaign. But as soon as prime time was over, only Vivec was pop-locked and the others were sitting around 2 or 3 bars. So it's hard to say what's best. Do they spin up another campaign for prime time, only to have it unused for the rest of the day?paulsimonps wrote: »There are more than enough campaigns for us all.Edited by Enodoc on July 21, 2017 9:06AMUESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭✭✭✭✭Our guild tried to spread out and left Vivec for Xarxes. Eventually every campaign on Xbox was locked including the no-CP camp, which is usually a wasteland.
And then the servers crashed time and time again.
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