Weapon Skill Line Concepts

DeadlyPhoenix

I made another thread talking about the animations for two handed staffs only requiring one hand in all the animations and thought that I should be able to use a shield with my staff.

Some other people had some great ideas as well for new weapon concepts and I was asked to make this into a poll to get more community feedback.

Please feel free to leave your feedback and suggestions as to why you would or wouldn't like to see some of this stuff make its way in game!

Edit to Clarify a bit
Just because it says like wand and scroll doesn't mean it has to be wand and Scroll. It could be scepter and tome, wand and skull etc or even it could be deemed as trinket and the style its crafted in decides its appearance like a skull or crystal. These are just general concepts that could be changed to different weapons, just to get the point across.

Also these are mostly magicka based weapon skill lines as spears and crossbows have already been discussed at length and we have a pretty fair selection of stamina based weapons already.

Voxicity

Shield and Shield

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DeadlyPhoenix

Some or all of these! We could definitely use for more build diversity and customization!

Voxicity wrote: »

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Haha I could definitely see some "unkillable" builds popping up with dual shield! The ultimate in tankiness

Mashille

Crossbow plz

DeadlyPhoenix

Some or all of these! We could definitely use for more build diversity and customization!

Mashille wrote: »

Crossbow plz

Unfortunately I can't add that to the poll now, but it definitely belongs in the list.

Nyladreas

Staff and Sword

We seriously need 1 hand + staff or 1 hand + magicka offhand. And since i can't vote twice, staff + book/scroll or some sort of magical object as well. Could be an orb, cube, skull... anything.

Also...

HOW IN THE HELL DID YOU FORGET SPEARS!?!?!?!

DeadlyPhoenix

Some or all of these! We could definitely use for more build diversity and customization!

Haha well there are only so many options available in a poll and also crossbow and spears have been discussed at length before. Mind you most of this has as well, but this is more magicka based than crossbows and spears would be with the exception of dual shield.

Just dont feel like there are enough options for weapons as a magicka user and wielding a staff one handed gets..... old quick especially when from an immersion standpoint, there is nothing stopping me from wielding something in my other hand, potentially making me an even deadlier opponent.

dodgehopper_ESO

Shield + Shield = Silliness. There is no point whatsoever for such a thing and honestly in a battlefield situation because you have no weapon the enemy will just wrestle the shield away from you and commence to tackle you to the ground and kill you. I'm guessing this was a joke though.

Staff + Shield = How about spear and shield?

Staff + Sword = Unwieldy - I say no.

Wand + Shield, Wand + Sword, Book etc seems reasonable however. I'm not sure there's any precedent for it in the series but it is within the realm of reason. For the sake of art I'd rather something that looked like scepter (fancy mace) used for magic reasons.

In short I personally would rather see the following weapons if they were to add new ones:
1) Halberd/Pike/Longspear.
2) Shortpear & Shield.
3) Staff - Melee skill.
4) Staff - Alternately a hybrid magic and stamina melee weapon.
5) Staffs of other Elements - Example: Staff of Corruption, Staff of Fear/Illusion etc etc.

Sunah

Some or all of these! We could definitely use for more build diversity and customization!

If Gandalf can dualwield staff/sword, we should be able to as well.

DeadlyPhoenix

Some or all of these! We could definitely use for more build diversity and customization!

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Shield + Shield = Silliness. There is no point whatsoever for such a thing and honestly in a battlefield situation because you have no weapon the enemy will just wrestle the shield away from you and commence to tackle you to the ground and kill you. I'm guessing this was a joke though.

Staff + Shield = How about spear and shield?

Staff + Sword = Unwieldy - I say no.

Wand + Shield, Wand + Sword, Book etc seems reasonable however. I'm not sure there's any precedent for it in the series but it is within the realm of reason. For the sake of art I'd rather something that looked like scepter (fancy mace) used for magic reasons.

In short I personally would rather see the following weapons if they were to add new ones:
1) Halberd/Pike/Longspear.
2) Shortpear & Shield.
3) Staff - Melee skill.
4) Staff - Alternately a hybrid magic and stamina melee weapon.
5) Staffs of other Elements - Example: Staff of Corruption, Staff of Fear/Illusion etc etc.

I do like some of your ideas, but shield and shield could actually be viable even in real world combat. A lot of shields don't just have a handle, they have straps on them to help prevent the shield from being wrestled away from you.

Also there are shields with spikes, blades, etc that can cause just as much damage, if not more than a sword or mace.

Staff plus sword in real life wouldn't work, not well at least unless you somehow mastered it, but in this fantasy world where it's really just a magical "scepter" just a little longer, it would work. You only use one hand to wield it anyway and cast it's magic, leaving your sword arm free to swing and flail about.

All in all though it doesnt matter if it's wand/scepter/etc or scroll/book/gem/skull/orb/crystal/cube/etc just as long as there are more options available for magicka users other than staff... dual wield swords only works for certain magicka builds imo.

khele23eb17_ESO

There are way too many staves in game already. How about some variety for magicka classes? A magic tome or wand for damage dealers, a censer for healers. A magicka skill line that uses summoned weapons for melee damage might be cool.

Takes-No-Prisoner

Staff and Scroll/Book

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Guile approves!

Runschei

Wand and Scroll/Book

Kick the khajiit and a staff. Hell yeah.

PlagueSD

None of the above! Keep weapons as they are now!

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Staff + Sword = Unwieldy - I say no.

Gandalf would say otherwise...

Drachenfier

Staff and Sword

Sunah wrote: »

If Gandalf can dualwield staff/sword, we should be able to as well.

Yes! Being able to in LOTRO with Loremaster is pretty awesome

Megabear

Wand and Scroll/Book

Good poll! I want Wand/Scroll, but Wand or Staff + Sword would be cool too

Megabear

Wand and Scroll/Book

DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

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Haha I could definitely see some "unkillable" builds popping up with dual shield! The ultimate in tankiness

Yes.

TheShadowScout

I know what I'd want...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/259011/additional-weapon-skill-ideas/p1

Jacen_Veron

Some or all of these! We could definitely use for more build diversity and customization!

Just a one hand sword solo skill line. No shield, no anything, just sword.

DeadlyPhoenix

Some or all of these! We could definitely use for more build diversity and customization!

Jacen_Veron wrote: »

Just a one hand sword solo skill line. No shield, no anything, just sword.

I completely agree.... Would be nice as well, they need to add more total options for the polls lol, I also should have made an other category.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

I know what I'd want...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/259011/additional-weapon-skill-ideas/p1

I do agree with some of the stuff in there... All in all they just need to add new options for weapons even if they don't completely open up new skill lines. Meaning they kind of become passive, wielding a staff and shield would lower your overall damage but allow you an extra item set piece and defense.

Just please give us something new ZOS! We want new weapons to use!

Tyrobag

Staff and Shield

1h and spell.

Code2501

I'd rather see more new exotic stuff...

Polearms (pike, halberd, lance, spear) - long reach med range melee (8-12ft)

Crossbow - long range, slow, heavy with different bolt styles

Accursed living tattoos (dark magic, poison magic and disease magic damage types) varying ranges mix of mag/stam morphs. One arm slot each tattoo so dw able. Disease can be touch range with mitigation properties, poison touch and mid range dps (sling distance) with mobility and then magic damage tattoos can be mid to long range curse (debuffing) and corruption dps.

Avran_Sylt

Have weapon damage and spell damage generally be separated by weapon class, not the dual bonus it is now. Current 2H staves would get a damage boost, then introduce: Wands,runes,scrolls,barehanded magic foci. that act as the 1H counterparts.

MisterBigglesworth

Whip + Pistol, like this...

Wait, hold up! Before You continue... I think you know what's coming, right?

Nerouyn

Staff and Wand

I'd definitely like to see more options! The game is a bit disappointing in the magic department.

Destruction and restoration staves do their respective jobs of taking away health and giving it back but there's basically no choice and most of the game's magic is locked away in other classes.

DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »

Edit to Clarify a bit
Just because it says like wand and scroll doesn't mean it has to be wand and Scroll. It could be scepter and tome, wand and skull etc or even it could be deemed as trinket and the style its crafted in decides its appearance like a skull or crystal.

That sounds cool.

russelmmendoza

Some or all of these! We could definitely use for more build diversity and customization!

How about just a shield. Ala capt. america.
Or just a whip or a spear.
Maybe barehand fighting. Ironfist style.